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To leave Dad alone on Xmas day

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VelvetLady88 · 12/11/2025 19:44

My Dad was punched by a family member about 20yrs ago on Xmas day which was unprovoked. I was there and saw the full incident. This led to the breakdown of our family as Dad pressed charges against the family member & refused to be in the same room as them. We remained in contact with his Mum & Dad & used to spend Boxing Day with them but they have both now passed away.
Dad doesn't cook dinner but will buy me a ready meal for dinner. He doesn't decorate for Xmas but will get us a small gift each. Last year he said he didn't want any gifts & refused to accept any presents. I had to return them all which was upsetting as it was things he needed such as slippers & a new razor. Every year he just speaks about getting punched & the family breakdown. I struggle to redirect the conversation & when I asked to speak about something else he asked me to leave at 7am on Boxing Day. I managed to persuade him to let me wait until the 1st train home was due.
I really don't want to go this year. It's so difficult having to listen to him go over events & he has started bad mouthing his parents for not resolving the situation. I find this distressing as I was very close to my Grandparents & miss them a lot especially at Xmas. My Dad has mental health issues & has no other family or friends. I feel guilty leaving him alone. He won't go to any community events for people in there own at Xmas. Ideally, I would visit on both Xmas Eve afternoon & Boxing Day afternoon for an hour or 2. This means I would also be on own Xmas Day but I don't keep well & would be glad of a day at home to rest. My cleaner asked me today if I was looking forward to Xmas & I didn't know what to say.

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slowsakura · 12/11/2025 22:59

This is heartbreaking. Imagine getting punched and then ending up the one who gets cut out from the family.
That's so upsetting

Dillydollydingdong · 12/11/2025 23:03

He doesn't want to celebrate Christmas and doesn't want visitors - obvious by him asking you to leave at the crack of dawn on Boxing Day. Why don't you just speak to him and ask him? His mental health isn't good, he's obsessed by what happened many years ago. It can only get worse.

VelvetLady88 · 12/11/2025 23:18

His Mental Health is actually the best it's been in years. His symptoms are well controlled. I wouldn't leave him on his own on Xmas Day if I felt he was a danger to himself.

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Bollihobs · 12/11/2025 23:26

VelvetLady88 · 12/11/2025 22:38

I am my Dad's carer & I think that's why I feel guilty about leaving him alone. I think my Grandparents were terrified they were going to lose contact with my Aunt & Cousins & that they could be harmed by my Uncle so my Grandparents just tried to keep the peace.

But not full time or live in if you are a train ride away?

It's clearly a rotten situation and it's OK for you to acknowledge that, you don't have to absorb all of your Dad's negative feelings.

VelvetLady88 · 12/11/2025 23:32

No he doesn't need my full time care anymore & I've been able to return to work. Although when he is having a bad day it can feel full time again! We have a better relationship now I'm not in the same town. I think he looks forward to our visits as he will buy in something for lunch & tell us what's been happening in the local paper. I go to see him once or twice a week.

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Enough4me · 12/11/2025 23:40

A member of my family lives with an obsessive, compulsive, disorder (OCD) based on a negative thought of an event that didn't happen. It led to the breakdown of his marriage, little contact with DCs no contact with GC.

In your dad's case there was an event but it's so far in the past you would think it would be less painful as time heals emotional wounds.

No answers I'm afraid but sharing because it seems like your dad may be suffering from OCD thoughts that affect his behaviour.

VelvetLady88 · 12/11/2025 23:45

That's interesting. He has got better as he used to have a MH crisis every year at Xmas but that hasn't happened since my Gran passed away. I don't know if he got some kind of closure from that.

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yummyscummymummy01 · 13/11/2025 09:35

You sound like such a caring person, I’m a bit worried that you wouldn’t enjoy Christmas because if you weren’t with him and you’d be worrying. I think Id probably go and make the best of it but be sure to make time for myself on other days.

Whatwerewetalkingabout · 13/11/2025 09:58

In your shoes I'd probably have Christmas day with my Dad (my Dad was the same, massive MH issues, and stuck in the past) write it off, and then in my head have boxing day or Christmas eve as MY Christmas day. A pretendmas all to myself with all my favourite food, followed by duvet on the sofa with a big box of chocolates and mulled wine and some Christmas movies!

If you're anything like me, unless your Dad specifically requested he would rather have Christmas on his own, it would ruin any Christmas day I had planned as I'd just be wracked with guilt and worry all day. But thats just me and my strained relationship with my Dad when he was alive. Xx

However don't feel guilty if you need to preserve your own mental health and have an Xmas day on your own. That is 100% okay, and I'm sure he will have just a good a day if you did it on Christmas eve for him instead.

Blizzardofleaves · 13/11/2025 10:41

VelvetLady88 · 12/11/2025 23:45

That's interesting. He has got better as he used to have a MH crisis every year at Xmas but that hasn't happened since my Gran passed away. I don't know if he got some kind of closure from that.

Your father didn’t ‘just’ get punched 20 years ago, he lost his entire family and hasn’t got over it. I imagine he is too old for counselling and professional help - but this is what he needs to recover more fully.

Christmas is a trigger for him. It’s almost impossible for him not to relive this - like a serious car crash. He has had the equivalent psychologically and emotionally.

I am going to suggest you make your own Christmas Day if complete indulgence and self care on Christmas Eve or Boxing Day and go and see your dad on Christmas Day. Listen patiently to this sadness and then hug him and tell him you will always love him.

In your place my dad and his pain would mean more to me than the superficiality of Christmas. Christmas is about good will ( to me) and caring for others. Why not take a nicer lunch from M&S and instead of being irritated - empathise with his terrible loss. It might work wonders op.

You sound like the most lovely dd.

Hoppinggreen · 13/11/2025 10:44

VelvetLady88 · 12/11/2025 22:38

I am my Dad's carer & I think that's why I feel guilty about leaving him alone. I think my Grandparents were terrified they were going to lose contact with my Aunt & Cousins & that they could be harmed by my Uncle so my Grandparents just tried to keep the peace.

Do you live with him?
If you are his carer you must live with him or pretty close so you can just be there for a brief visit

Cynic17 · 13/11/2025 10:53

Do what you want, OP - it's your life. You don't have to see someone just because you're related to them.
And there's nothing wrong with being alone on Xmas Day - it's only 24 hours and, tbh, lots of people love the peace and quiet.

ilucgaiaw · 13/11/2025 10:55

I think I would still go and see him on Christmas Day but then have Boxing Day to yourself and plan a really nice day for Boxing Day with whatever treats you enjoy, films, a few presents for yourself etc.

Would it help if you said to him on Christmas Day, let's talk about the incident 20 years ago for half an hour and after that we'll get on with the rest of the day together and enjoy the time together.
Ask him whether he would like some presents this year. And if he doesn't, don't get him anything. The things you say he needs you could jjust give him at other times of the year, just randomly. Would he accept them then? eg. in January you say, "Dad, I saw these slippers on offer and got them for you".

Beedeeoh · 13/11/2025 10:59

I'll be honest, Christmas for me means including everyone as much as possible, even if they're hard work. Obviously there's a line if they're really offensive but I wouldn't exclude your dad for this. Invite him, stick him in the corner and let him wallow.

I had a godmother who used to drive my dad up the wall with her political ranting every Christmas day but I just think that's part and parcel of Christmas really.

fatphalange · 13/11/2025 11:04

I would absolutely put yourself first. God knows you have stood by your dad while he has done everything to make your Christmasses until now as uncomfortable and unfestive as possible through no fault of your own. He doesn’t celebrate or accept your repeated attempts to cheer him/include him in the day. You deserve the day to yourself or with others without all this weird stress. Ignore posters saying otherwise, please.

Blizzardofleaves · 13/11/2025 11:27

fatphalange · 13/11/2025 11:04

I would absolutely put yourself first. God knows you have stood by your dad while he has done everything to make your Christmasses until now as uncomfortable and unfestive as possible through no fault of your own. He doesn’t celebrate or accept your repeated attempts to cheer him/include him in the day. You deserve the day to yourself or with others without all this weird stress. Ignore posters saying otherwise, please.

But is it going to be especially festive for op spending Christmas alone?

VelvetLady88 · 13/11/2025 19:59

I don't live with him. I live about half an hour away. I have tried to empathise with him but it doesn't make things any better. I just tend to listen & nod. When I explain why my Grandparents were scared of what my Uncle might do my Dad just gets more distressed & normally asks me to leave.

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speakball · 29/12/2025 15:30

what happened in the end op?

Your dad has significant interpersonal issues that will cause you emotional and mental well-being problems and eventually physical. Your dad has a personality issue that means he needs to feel severely wronged to pretty much get out of bed in the morning. It isn’t normal to be brooding over this vocally to your child years later when they have made an effort to visit you. Believe me op, your dad will feel outraged and indignant whatever you do.

You could move in and worship him day and night and he will moan all the way to the end watching you fall apart. You need support to recognise people who do not have any of your interests at heart.

VelvetLady88 · 31/12/2025 12:05

Dad's poorly with a virus so I've been down staying with him. He's been really settled. He accepted some of his gifts & got a Xmas cake & some other snacks for us. I just hope things stay settled over New Year. I wouldn't wish for him to be poorly but this has been his most settled Xmas in years. Dad was assessed for a personality disorder years ago but didn't meet the diagnostic criteria. Thanks for everyone's advice.

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