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Sexentric · 31/01/2026 09:40

Well I'll have to since I cant retire till 68.

Christmasisaroundthecorner · 31/01/2026 10:00

I know lots of people working in their 60s and some older, and just got a new job myself this month in my 60s. Not easy and some sectors/employers harder than others which is why I suggested WASPI could have usefully put their energy into helping those genuinely in need claim benefits and/or help with job finding.

Honestly can the majority of them who knew about it (or were literate and able to afford a radio/tv so if they didn’t know chose ignorance) and don’t need compensation, not see how much young people are struggling and need support more than them? Apols for multiple negatives!

BIossomtoes · 31/01/2026 10:09

Sexentric · 31/01/2026 09:40

Well I'll have to since I cant retire till 68.

Presumably you’ll have the sense to stay in the job you have in your 50s and won’t be job hunting in your 60s because if you don’t you’ll be in for a pretty miserable time unless you have a decent occupational pension.

Raven08 · 31/01/2026 10:10

They've become a bit of a laughing stock tbh
They aren't against pension inequality....only when they perceive it applies to them!
I know many women in this age bracket...many would have ignores letters from dwp.

Anonymouseposter · 31/01/2026 10:24

underthehawthorntree · 31/01/2026 08:25

I'm so angry with these women. It is so selfish and entitled and they are taking up so much time and resources. There are literally hundreds of better places to spend that money but they are like a dog with a bone- they just will not drop it out of principle. I would be furious if labour u turn because I can't believe anyone other than they very small number of waspi women who campaign actually want them to get a pay out.

I am a woman born in the early 1950s and I agree with you. I find these campaigners greedy and embarrassing. We were informed. I had two personal letters with plenty of notice. The old system of retiring at 60 was on the model of a working man with a dependent wife who was statistically likely to be younger than him. The new model is based on independent working individuals Women’s pension age’s needed to be equalised with men’s. The only slight injustice was to women born in 1954 who got an unexpected extra wait. The rise was also gradual. There are more pressing things for the government to be spending money on.

BIossomtoes · 31/01/2026 10:29

The only slight injustice was to women born in 1954 who got an unexpected extra wait. The rise was also gradual.

It hit women born 1953-55 the hardest. The 2011 rise was far from gradual, my pension age rose by more than three years in 2011 and my case is by no means the worst.

Christmasisaroundthecorner · 31/01/2026 10:37

And most other women had their pension age rise by 7 or 8 years!

Choccyp1g · 31/01/2026 10:55

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shineandsmile · 31/01/2026 11:12

BIossomtoes · 31/01/2026 10:09

Presumably you’ll have the sense to stay in the job you have in your 50s and won’t be job hunting in your 60s because if you don’t you’ll be in for a pretty miserable time unless you have a decent occupational pension.

What if you get made redundant?

OonaStubbs · 31/01/2026 11:26

These WASPIs should buzz off.

BIossomtoes · 31/01/2026 11:27

shineandsmile · 31/01/2026 11:12

What if you get made redundant?

Then you’ll find it well nigh impossible to get another job and you’ll be living on your occupational pension or universal credit until you become eligible for your state pension.

nutmeg7 · 31/01/2026 11:29

BIossomtoes · 31/01/2026 10:29

The only slight injustice was to women born in 1954 who got an unexpected extra wait. The rise was also gradual.

It hit women born 1953-55 the hardest. The 2011 rise was far from gradual, my pension age rose by more than three years in 2011 and my case is by no means the worst.

And how old were you in 2011?
At that point, assuming you had understood the 1993 uplift, when were you expecting to retire? And when did that date move to when the new accelerated implementation came in in 2011?

Teado · 31/01/2026 11:56

Labour worried that this lot will vote Reform if they don’t get what they want, perhaps? 🤷‍♀️

We need to invest in our young adults! And I say that as someone who’s closer to 70 than 30.

BIossomtoes · 31/01/2026 11:56

nutmeg7 · 31/01/2026 11:29

And how old were you in 2011?
At that point, assuming you had understood the 1993 uplift, when were you expecting to retire? And when did that date move to when the new accelerated implementation came in in 2011?

I was expecting to claim my state pension in 2014 after the 1993 changes. The 2011 bill moved my eligibility date to the end of 2017. Why is that relevant?

shineandsmile · 31/01/2026 12:37

Teado · 31/01/2026 11:56

Labour worried that this lot will vote Reform if they don’t get what they want, perhaps? 🤷‍♀️

We need to invest in our young adults! And I say that as someone who’s closer to 70 than 30.

Labour isn’t giving in to it, thankfully.

shineandsmile · 31/01/2026 12:45

It’s amazing how there seems to be all this noise for WASPI women, over an announcement that was made decades before it was implemented. They just don’t like that they’ve had to wait longer for the state pension than women just a little older than them.

Where was the sympathy for young people when the government announced tuition fees would triple from £3k to £9k in 2010, to be implemented from September 2012? Young people had very little time to plan around this so would have had to suck it up. I imagine some parents may have saved £9k thinking it would cover tuition for 3 years, only to find it would only cover one year. Where was the outrage then?

Young people are now saddled with debts throughout their working lives and have been treated very badly. I am lucky to be on Plan 1 but even with the lower tuition fee loan I doubt I’ll pay it off before it’s wiped. For me that’s 25 years after graduating, but for those on later plans, some will be paying until retirement.

BurntBroccoli · 31/01/2026 13:21

Teado · 31/01/2026 11:56

Labour worried that this lot will vote Reform if they don’t get what they want, perhaps? 🤷‍♀️

We need to invest in our young adults! And I say that as someone who’s closer to 70 than 30.

Except Farage has said this meaning he agrees with Labour:

“I’ve never made any false promises to WASPI women. I’m sorry, it’s done, it’s over. It’s not going to get changed”

BurntBroccoli · 31/01/2026 13:23

shineandsmile · 31/01/2026 12:45

It’s amazing how there seems to be all this noise for WASPI women, over an announcement that was made decades before it was implemented. They just don’t like that they’ve had to wait longer for the state pension than women just a little older than them.

Where was the sympathy for young people when the government announced tuition fees would triple from £3k to £9k in 2010, to be implemented from September 2012? Young people had very little time to plan around this so would have had to suck it up. I imagine some parents may have saved £9k thinking it would cover tuition for 3 years, only to find it would only cover one year. Where was the outrage then?

Young people are now saddled with debts throughout their working lives and have been treated very badly. I am lucky to be on Plan 1 but even with the lower tuition fee loan I doubt I’ll pay it off before it’s wiped. For me that’s 25 years after graduating, but for those on later plans, some will be paying until retirement.

Exactly this and I’ve been pointing this very thing out on threads…

QuenchedSquirrel · 31/01/2026 17:10

Waspi women annoy me no end with their whinging. The only ones hard done by were the ones mentioned who got very short notice of the rise from 65 to 66 and 67. Men got that short notice too.

I've been to their website and read various bits and pieces they've put together. One woman left her job. Then wondered when her pension would start. Other women say they were knackered by 60 and couldn't work so should be allowed to retire. Lol. As if men hadn't been knackered at 60 for decades.

As for the ones moaning on about "not being told", well they can just really fuck off. They must be having a laugh expecting personal communications every time something changes.

And the excuses they wheel out as to why they didn't know. They sound pathetic. I'm amazed they managed to hold down jobs at all.

I really wish they'd all shut up, there are real grievances that need remedying that are being ignored because of these women and their selfish whining.

WaryCrow · 31/01/2026 17:42

Following @shineandsmile , or about the increase in house prices and increase in buy to let. 2000- 2005, with no warning, fucked all of us who were then young over. All we got then was ‘my pension, don’t be so selfish’ and all we get now is endless lies and self-justifications.

WaryCrow · 31/01/2026 17:43

The economy has collapsed, basically. Still that generation demand more.

Grapewrath · 31/01/2026 17:47

God the WASPI women are embarrassing and entitled. They make me cringe.

nutmeg7 · 31/01/2026 18:02

BIossomtoes · 31/01/2026 11:56

I was expecting to claim my state pension in 2014 after the 1993 changes. The 2011 bill moved my eligibility date to the end of 2017. Why is that relevant?

It is relevant so that those of us on here who are younger can get some clarity over exactly how long before a person’s post-1993 regs retirement date the rules were changed (in 2011) AND how many additional years that added to their retirement date at that point.

Clarity is important to understanding the situation - only then can we form an opinion on whether it merits compensation, or whether it’s no worse than other tough government decisions that hit different groups.

Nourishinghandcream · 31/01/2026 18:06

I have always maintained that you must have been living in a cave, taking no notice (or interest) whatsoever in the news and/or current affairs to have missed this while taking no responsibility for your upcoming retirement (even though it was still many years away).
It was such MASSIVE news at the time, how did it pass them by?

Just for the record, I am 60 and retired.

GreyfriarsJobbies · 31/01/2026 18:11

BurntBroccoli · 31/01/2026 13:21

Except Farage has said this meaning he agrees with Labour:

“I’ve never made any false promises to WASPI women. I’m sorry, it’s done, it’s over. It’s not going to get changed”

Bloody hell I agree with Nigel Farage. Oh well stopped clocks and all that; I'm still going for a lie down though.

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