Roundabout priority (with images 😁)

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AIBU for arguing back with a man who tried to confront me (4 minutes later further on down the road btw) about my actions on this roundabout?

Roundabout near(ish) to me has line markings which I appreciate can cause confusion, as they do seem to contradict normal roundabout protocols of which lane to be in for the exiting past 12’o clock rules. However, my understanding is if you are leaving ‘your lane’ then the responsibility falls on you to ensure the lane you’re moving in to is clear. I am also aware roundabouts should allow for those coming off at the exit but I feel the lane markings here clearly show the lanes people should be in, as this wasn’t a case like most where the lines end and it becomes two into one merge type thing with a shared duty of care etc

Won’t go in to the details about the confrontation itself (unless people are really bored and want a story time 😂) but we had a minor near miss, he was effing and beeping then caught up with me further down the line and went off again before I unloaded my own verbal backlash.

So as not to mess people around being ‘ambiguous’ I’ll state I was in the blue car and he was in the red. There was a green car next to me.

The lane markings can’t be seen very well on google maps so I have made them clearer.

I suppose the AIBU isn’t really about my response (because tbh that’s my own business if i want to get in to it with another person*), but was I in the right with the driving as I do genuinely accept if I’m wrong then I’m wrong 🤷🏻‍♀️
I don’t think I’m the kind of person to get in to an accident for the sake of ‘being in the right’ but I suppose my carrying on without expecting him to want to cut across me wasn’t something I anticipated so probably could do with self reflection for future reference as the direction I took isn’t my normal route (I’m normally in the green car lane which is nice and simple 😂)

You are being unreasonable = You didn’t have right of way and were in the wrong
You are not being unreasonable = he was in the wrong

*I appreciate in advance anyone advising me/others not to get into disputes with men for risk of danger etc 🥰

I think if you ignore the green lane and consider that to be an anti congestion upgrade for the cars entering from the road in the top left corner, and assuming that the main road is bottom left to top right (ie straight on but with a slight kink), then OP was correct, angry man was incorrect and a aggressive arse as well.

The problem with this roundabout is that there are barely any lane markings left on it anymore. OP is completely correct in what she did but angry man wouldn't have had obvious road markings to follow so it would be a bit more confusing for him than you might think from looking at the first photo. He's still wrong though and shouldn't have been trying to exit with her on his left in the position she was (correctly) in or behaving like a overgrown toddler afterwards.

Those lanes on the roundabout are bananas! If the 5/6 approach go into the right-hand (red car) lane then they can only go fully round the roundabout!

But, the man was wrong and shouldn't have been leaving the roundabout in your lane.

You might have been in the wrong lane but the responsibility is on him for not checking his lane is clear. You should always assume every other driver could potentially make a mistake and be prepared for it.

Abusing another driver for an inconsequential mistake is never OK

The more I’ve had to explain, the more it’s made me have to remember details better tbh.
i’m leaning towards either he was behind me or came on after me as I joined straight on to the inside (as i wasn’t taking the 7’o clock or 9 o’clock exit) then moved over to the outside lane immediately after the 9 where it splits in to 2, i will have been checking my left hand side to have made sure it’s clear before moving and ensuring i wasn’t about to hit anything coming on from either feed, not my right. I don’t know if he came on from the 3, 5,7 or 9 (although I’d be v surprised if it was from the 9 as I can’t see anyone moving to the inside lane if they are wanting to take the first exit 🤔)
I can’t imagine he was already on it as I wasn’t going fast and had more distance to have travelled to have ‘overtaken’ him.

If it’s the m32 junction I’m not surprised there was an altercation, not because you did anything wrong but because there’s a special breed of driving idiot around these parts. Many just linger in the middle lane of the m5 at 50 mph to annoy me and they are always in the wrong lane of junctions cutting me up

Any guy who stops down the road to confront you and argue is dangerous. Road rage can be deadly. Do not argue, do not escalate, get away.

I was going to comment to ask if you approached the roundabout in the left or right hand lane. From your update it looks like you were in the right!

The section further up is an utter sh*t show isn’t it 😱, the two lanes magically make a third with no clear road markings as to whether the left or right has priority.
There I know to always check, crawl, indcate, check again then pray to the Lord 😂
But because the roundabout seemed straightforward to me, I figured I could use a second (or hundred 😂) other opinions to ensure I wasn’t missing something because he seemed so angry about it I second guessed myself 🤷🏻‍♀️

You were fine and in a correct lane throughout. He was in the wrong.

Just correct me here - you (blue car) and he (red car) left the roundabout at 2 o’clock?

You were in the right.

I’ve been driving for 21 years and it baffles me why some people won’t or get so bothered about going around a roundabout again, which I suspect is why red car driver was being a shitter. Sometimes the lane you need to move over into when leaving a roundabout isn’t clear and with volume of traffic and the speed other vehicles are travelling it’s safer to go around again, which is what red car driver should have accepted. It’s just one of those things.

I’ve seen all sorts of stupidity on roundabouts when other drivers have left it too late to move into the correct lane or missed/almost missed the exit they needed to leave. The worst so far was someone had clearly realised they’d just driven past the exit they needed to leave. Rather than simply go around again, this driver came to a complete stop on the roundabout and reversed back to the exit they’d just passed. A near miss was the result.

Yes, he wound up behind me as my car was in the way of where he wanted to go and I was already there first.

The blue car has failed to follow the unwinding of the corkscrew & therefore has ended up in the wrong lane. The green car shouldn't have entered the roundabout until the blue & red car had passed.

both the blue & red car could come off at the exit - blue in the LHL and red in RHL

If it's where I'm thinking, then I think it might actually be the left lane that is meant to split into two. But further up where it is still two lanes, neither of these is marked for going straight on over the next roundabout into Easton (i.e. the middle of the three lanes) so total sh*t show is a very apt description. As a fairly new driver round these parts, I've been quite enjoying these discussions.

You were defo right. He needs to retake his driving test as he’s a danger on the road. Did you get his reg? Report him to the police.

If you do report him claim you memorised his reg, not photographed his car.

Too much unknown - red and blue and even green did they come on at same junction, was the roundabout clogged, technically if working your way around the roundabout you should move to outer lanes as your junction approaches, blue and green were the right lanes for the next turn given the diagram, red should have moved over or gone around again to get in right lane for the exit if he missed his opportunities etc, however if he was blocked from moving over by people entering (ie blue or even green) whilst he was already on the roundabout maybe they were in the wrong for not giving way to him moving over.

I like this… “check, crawl, indcate, check again then pray!”

I have a mini roundabout on my route that’s a prayer roundabout. It’s more indicate, look, look, GO, PRAY though.

This is my take too.

Not really sure what you’re on about - I didn’t say anywhere I reported him 🤔
I didn’t memorise anything about his vehicle (other than it wasn’t actually red 😂) and didn’t photograph it 🤨
I mean technically my dash cam may have caught it but I’m not bothered enough to check it for his details.

I wrote IF you report him.
Forget about him.

You were in the correct lane. Even if you were not, he would be liable I believe, because he was trying to move into the lane that you were already in and you were ahead. I think his initial mistake was forgiveable because you say the road markings are not very clear and it is a non-standard roundabout. However, the way he subsequently harassed you was absolutely wrong. I don't blame you for shouting back but for your own safety I think that was a bad idea. Better to look straight ahead and completely ignore.

I suspect he started behind you and thought he could overtake on the roundabout. I also suspect he'd been powdering his nose. I know he was a twat.

Are there any other followers of Big Jobber on this thread? He has some very educational posts about roundabouts.