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Should the govt stop increasing tobacco prices?

197 replies

TheQuirkyMaker · 10/11/2025 12:00

A cheap packet of 20 cigs now costs about £15. They last a day. Most smokers are in the lower economic demographics. Should we ask the govt to stop hammering us in each budget?

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NavyPants · 11/11/2025 13:13

x2boys · 11/11/2025 12:51

Your probably not addicted to nicotine though...

I'll admit I've had 2/3 puffs of a vape. Maybe 2 puffs of someone's cigarette drag. I coughed, didn't enjoy it and even if I did, why am I going to damage my 🫁.

Bambamhoohoo · 11/11/2025 13:15

NavyPants · 11/11/2025 13:13

I'll admit I've had 2/3 puffs of a vape. Maybe 2 puffs of someone's cigarette drag. I coughed, didn't enjoy it and even if I did, why am I going to damage my 🫁.

presumably you realised other people do smoke though? And that it’s addictive?

”why do you smoke when it’s expensive” is a question with a very obvious answer I’d say?

BettysRoasties · 11/11/2025 13:18

The nhs does help smokers. It has groups and sessions and will prescribe patches, gums and vape kind of things to help people quite.

Same as the methadone. It’s used to help them wean off and stay off heroin.

MrsSkylerWhite · 11/11/2025 13:22

TheQuirkyMaker · 11/11/2025 05:25

I don't smoke. I know people who do, though, and each price increase is hitting them hard.

So they stop. I did, years ago after 40 a day. There was no free assistance then. All the support they need is there.

ihaterain2024 · 11/11/2025 13:52

Some people can't afford to eat. If i was in power cigarettes would be £100 a packet

MrsSkylerWhite · 11/11/2025 14:21

ihaterain2024 · 11/11/2025 13:52

Some people can't afford to eat. If i was in power cigarettes would be £100 a packet

Agree. That some people put their habit ahead of the material needs of their children is neglect, plain and simple.

RubySquid · 11/11/2025 14:23

MrsSkylerWhite · 11/11/2025 13:22

So they stop. I did, years ago after 40 a day. There was no free assistance then. All the support they need is there.

My friendwhen giving up said the nhs " assistance" was crap. Texts saying don't smoke, leaflelets stating obvious downsides etc. She KNEW ( as does everyone) so what was the point?

Sartre · 11/11/2025 14:25

Of course not. They should keep rising the price until it’s so astronomical even the biggest chain smoker couldn’t justify it. Think £50 for 20 and you’re there. Or just outlaw the bloody things.

Can’t believe anyone still does it in truth. I don’t see it anywhere near as frequently thankfully but I’m always particularly shocked when I see young people doing it. It was genuinely cool when I was a teen and lots of edgy celebs did it but now it’s just something I link to old people. Also have no idea how anyone even affords it.

Happymondai · 11/11/2025 14:25

Who still smokes In 2025? People have moved onto vaping, unfortunately with the assumption it’s harmless so now you have pregnant women vaping with no worries and vapers breathing strawberry clouds all over your face.

NavyPants · 11/11/2025 14:25

Is here a market at all for cigarettes that haven't been taxed? Like an underground market?

Sartre · 11/11/2025 14:28

NavyPants · 11/11/2025 14:25

Is here a market at all for cigarettes that haven't been taxed? Like an underground market?

Dunno if it still exists but a few years ago people were stealing and selling things black market style in pubs. Unsure how they’d steal fags but I guess people still buy them abroad cheaply and bring them over to sell.

But yeah the pub selling was wild, I was a bartender in one such establishment when I was studying and the local shoplifters would come in with all sorts- cheese, coffee, meat but the craziest thing I saw was a paddling pool! You know how supermarkets put things like that in the entrance? The guy had grabbed a few and ran straight out! They sold really well tbf.

BettysRoasties · 11/11/2025 14:31

Happymondai · 11/11/2025 14:25

Who still smokes In 2025? People have moved onto vaping, unfortunately with the assumption it’s harmless so now you have pregnant women vaping with no worries and vapers breathing strawberry clouds all over your face.

We have it the other way around in some family Members cases they believe smoking is safer than vaping so moved across despite never being a smoker before. Then the older relative who just doesn’t trust vapes and come out a 2 week hospital stay after a very best chest and started back up 2 days later.

Some people just won’t learn. Elderly persons case is loaded so £50 a pack wouldn’t stop them.

Happymondai · 11/11/2025 14:40

BettysRoasties · 11/11/2025 14:31

We have it the other way around in some family Members cases they believe smoking is safer than vaping so moved across despite never being a smoker before. Then the older relative who just doesn’t trust vapes and come out a 2 week hospital stay after a very best chest and started back up 2 days later.

Some people just won’t learn. Elderly persons case is loaded so £50 a pack wouldn’t stop them.

I’ve got a few conspiracy theorists in my family who did the same thing I assumed it was just them being contrary and not a common thing though.
I’ve tried saying here’s an idea why not just breath air instead of vape or tobacco but it falls on death ears and back to moaning about how broke they are after paying the extortionate tobacco prices

Yesimmoaningaboutbenefits · 11/11/2025 17:34

Dgll · 11/11/2025 05:50

A very high percentage of the population chew betel nut in Bhutan and that causes cancer. I think they would struggle to ban that. From a health point of view it is similarly harmful.

Still?
Other countries that used to chew betel have massively dwindled. Again India (only because I am there regularly), I can't say I noticed any of the red stains you used to see from betel. It's just not the done thing anymore.

Besides, chewing betel doesn't impact those around you in the same way smoking does (other than the grossness).

Yesimmoaningaboutbenefits · 11/11/2025 17:40

Bambamhoohoo · 11/11/2025 09:25

I know you’ve been pushed to provide an answer after stating “it’s not that difficult” to ban smoking- but do you really think there is any comparison socially, culturally or legally, with Brunei?

making things illegal is such a simplistic distraction from complex problems- for example, China have millions of people in prison. What do you have to do to end up in prison in China?! Are they there for reasonable illegal acts? No. Don’t forget you can make anything illegal and other countries are not always good examples of things we want to replicate within our well established, world leading, legal system.

Do you not think something that directly impacts other people's health is something that is worth making illegal? It's rightly been made illegal to smoke in public buildings and in cars with children. It is awful to smell the stench when a 4 yo walks into school stinking of stale smoke because their parents smoke at home. But that's not illegal, despite the lifelong health issues they are directly causing for their child.

AirborneElephant · 11/11/2025 17:42

No, sin taxes are great. Entirely voluntary, bring in loads of money, and no-one can argue addiction with all the options available these days.

1457bloom · 11/11/2025 17:46

people who smoke are now seen as rich.

OSTMusTisNT · 11/11/2025 17:46

Only if the person signs a waiver removing themselves from all NHS services for life.

Otherwise, they should bang the price up another £10.

IdaGlossop · 11/11/2025 17:51

Smoking is good for you. I gave up years ago. Never a day goes by that I don't yearn to spend £15 a day to suck on a tube of dried leaves, swallow the smoke, blow it out again, and watch tar stains gather on the ceiling. Fun times. 😃

So yes, the government should not only stop increasing prices but slash them.

Typo

RubySquid · 11/11/2025 22:25

OSTMusTisNT · 11/11/2025 17:46

Only if the person signs a waiver removing themselves from all NHS services for life.

Otherwise, they should bang the price up another £10.

Yeah let people sign a waiver to not be treated for smoking related health issues. BUT tgen they shouldn't need to be paying the tax on cigarettes so they'd be cheap

Cant charge people more than treatment costs then not allow them to use it. Thats just taking the mick

RaininSummer · 11/11/2025 22:29

They should make them so expensive that nobody buys them.

RubySquid · 11/11/2025 22:35

RaininSummer · 11/11/2025 22:29

They should make them so expensive that nobody buys them.

The government WANT people to buy them though. Thats the point

DallasMajor · 11/11/2025 22:35

RaininSummer · 11/11/2025 22:29

They should make them so expensive that nobody buys them.

Alcohol does more social damage- let's make the cheapest bottle of wine £50

Chocolate isn't good for you- so £20 a bar

Fizzy drink- that will be £40

Where does it stop?

MeouwKing · 11/11/2025 22:50

emmetgirl · 10/11/2025 17:01

They should cost £50 a pack.

Per pack of 10

OmNomShiva · 11/11/2025 22:55

Don’t smoke. It’s that easy.