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For not letting my daughter dress like some clown from Eurovision?

39 replies

SharonWTheBest · 09/11/2025 12:13

My daughter watched this year's Eurovision herself when she was at her grandmother's house. I wasn't able to watch this year as I was on holiday, so not really got a clue of the singers in it, but she keeps mentioning this one person, Lucio Corsi I think his name is? Basically, she wants to look like him. On the daily. I must admit, he does have a good fashion sense, doesn't care about gender roles so wears dresses etc. But what I have a problem with is the white face paint that he always seems to have on. My daughter wants to do that too! In public! I've told her no as I'm scared that she will get bullied for it, or that it will look a bit silly to go about town like that. You know what teens are like nowadays!

It also seems to me that she's starting to act like him too. She keeps repeating random Italian phrases that I've not got a clue of - we have no relation to Italy, by the way, and no one in our family speaks Italian. I'm starting to get a little afraid that this Lucio thing is a cult or something... she's starting to freak me out!

OP posts:
SharonWTheBest · 09/11/2025 14:19

Thanks everyone for giving good advice and being kind about it. Will definitely check out his gig! Listened to one of the albums and it's magical! Will tell her that if she isn't afraid of comments then to go for it, but just be sure to stay safe out there 😄

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Summerhillsquare · 09/11/2025 14:39

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 09/11/2025 12:35

His song was a rather sweet one about wanting to live up to aspirations of toughness and masculinity but struggling in a tough world.

It's not exactly cultish.

As rights of passage and teenage rebellion go, this is pretty cute.

Arregaithel · 09/11/2025 15:35

Brava Mamma 😎

AthenaWhite · 09/11/2025 16:10

My daughter has always dressed in an unusual fashion and been into clown chic for years. She makes her own clothes including hand crochet clown hats...with bells! She now happily goes to art uni. When we meet up in the middle, London, she gets stares from anyone over 30. She also gets approached by other teens/early twenties who compliment her style. It is a very recognisable style amongst the alt crowd.

I dressed as a Victorian when I was a teen, I looked ridiculous but what fun. Happy days.

Vive le difference!

soupyspoon · 09/11/2025 17:27

SharonWTheBest · 09/11/2025 12:41

Thanks for the advice everyone - I do see that the guy himself seems pleasant enough. I suppose I'm just scared of my daughter becoming a target as I've heard too many stories of harassment to anyone that dares to be ever so slightly different in the teen world 🙁

I find there is a huge irony in modern thinking and modern trends that were so different to when I was growing up, late 70s 80s etc

There were lots of different groups, gothy, punky, glamour/Dynasty powers shoulders, glitzy, poppy, new Romantic, still a bit of glam rock around.

So there was lots of difference and I fitted into many of those groups all at the same time depending on how I felt and who I was with that day

Move forward 40 years and suddenly everyone is 'being their true self' and 'accepting others as they are' and yet people and children/teens are far far more polarised into set groups than ever. There seems no fluidity and lots of division and opposition.

The trans thing has caused and contributed to a lot of this too, in the 70s/80s/90s there was just unsaid acceptance of different dress sytles for men and women, men wearing make up and jewellery, effeminate clothing and mannerisms and women in fact have been cross dressing if you like since trousers for women were more common place, the 80s being a decade of incredibly strong and robust female role models making women identify with strength and power and being a woman

So different to today when being a woman is either hyper sexed or so derogatory that young girls think they're boys

Soberinthecity · 10/11/2025 18:02

googles Lucio Corsi

Oh my god is that it?? He looks fine… Pretty normal stuff - just expressing herself. Let her get on with it! At least she’s not going down the rd of the TOWIE look which is horrendous.

mamagogo1 · 10/11/2025 18:06

Let her express herself when it’s appropriate to wear stylised makeup just not to school. Encourage her to learn Italian as it’s useful!

Ferrissia3 · 10/11/2025 18:10

TiredofLDN · 09/11/2025 12:32

My god. All this angst over teens doing what teens have done for time immemorial!

When I was a kid, me and my mates were all into punk pop and Tumblr girl aesthetics- teased hair, feather clip-ins and stripey tights with converse- massive eye make up. Some of our peers were goths, yes complete with the full make up. Others were prancing around with Jane Norman hand bags and businesswear pencil skirts. We all looked crackers. And that’s the absolute joy of your teens.

By my late teens I’d discovered Kate bush and Stevie nicks and was draping myself in as much fusty velvet and lace as I could find in an oxfam discount bin.

I still looked mad.

Now I’m typing this in my very ordinary mum-casual Hush wardrobe and wondering why we’re all so hell bent on removing any and all potential - often mildly- adverse experiences from our children’s lives, and sending creativity, self expression and resilience down the chute with them.

Fear not, OP- I’m living proof that even the most determined teen wannabes amongst us, end up in the tan cargo pants anyway….

I loved reading this post.

Nettie1964 · 10/11/2025 18:15

TiredofLDN · 09/11/2025 12:32

My god. All this angst over teens doing what teens have done for time immemorial!

When I was a kid, me and my mates were all into punk pop and Tumblr girl aesthetics- teased hair, feather clip-ins and stripey tights with converse- massive eye make up. Some of our peers were goths, yes complete with the full make up. Others were prancing around with Jane Norman hand bags and businesswear pencil skirts. We all looked crackers. And that’s the absolute joy of your teens.

By my late teens I’d discovered Kate bush and Stevie nicks and was draping myself in as much fusty velvet and lace as I could find in an oxfam discount bin.

I still looked mad.

Now I’m typing this in my very ordinary mum-casual Hush wardrobe and wondering why we’re all so hell bent on removing any and all potential - often mildly- adverse experiences from our children’s lives, and sending creativity, self expression and resilience down the chute with them.

Fear not, OP- I’m living proof that even the most determined teen wannabes amongst us, end up in the tan cargo pants anyway….

Just this,we used to go to the charity shop and spend a couple of quid on stilettos and crap. We thought we where fab. Army surplus for combat trousers thank god there are very few photos. Sounds normal to me.

ChristmasCountdown2025 · 10/11/2025 18:32

I saw a girl of about 14,15 in clown make up the other day. Must admit I just thought “ooh, bet that took ages to do” and carried on by. It’s a fad, a fashion. Given my age, I remember the punks, then the New Romantics. There’s always been some slightly unusual trend. My DS ( very dark haired) had his hair bleached white one summer.. he looked like a light bulb. Still my DS, we carried on as normal til he got fed-up with it!
It will pass OP x

Hankunamatata · 10/11/2025 18:33

Mua do a whitish foundation. She's 14 amd wants to experiment. Id would let her within reason
www.superdrug.com/make-up/face/foundation/liquid-foundation/mua-pro-/-base-long-wear-matte-finish-foundation-100/p/774967

Bluejaysforthewin · 10/11/2025 19:16

Random Italian phrases? Look up Italian brain rot. I work with teens and hear it all day

K2054 · 10/11/2025 20:23

SharonWTheBest · 09/11/2025 12:41

Thanks for the advice everyone - I do see that the guy himself seems pleasant enough. I suppose I'm just scared of my daughter becoming a target as I've heard too many stories of harassment to anyone that dares to be ever so slightly different in the teen world 🙁

You worry because you're a good Mum.

Ahfiddlesticks · 10/11/2025 21:45

PiccadillyPurple · 09/11/2025 12:20

It might be a case of letting her learn by her own fashion mistakes, although perfectly reasonable to make her spend her own money on it.

This.

I was allowed out the house in hot pants, stripper heels and bright blue hair. I looked an absolute mess, but would not be deterred. The more my parents refused, the more I rebelled and just wore it under my regular clothes and stripped off when out of sight. Once they stopped fussing I quickly ran out of steam!

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