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Our school has banned the word Christmas?

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Fayethefair · 09/11/2025 09:30

I’ve heard from a friend on my DD’s school’s ptfa that our Cambridgeshire school has banned the word Christmas to make the school events feel more inclusive. So now it’s Festive Party, Festive Fayre etc. I’m happy to let mumsnet know the name of the school if they don’t feel this post is genuine so they can check this themselves but I won’t put names on here as this is my child’s school, I just don’t think this right and want to see what others think.

My daughter attended a Diwali lunch put on by the school recently and I genuinely thought this was lovely. I feel everything should be represented equally, I don’t understand or agree that the head should be picking and choosing what’s allowed and what isn’t. Surely this isn’t right?

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Notonthestairs · 13/11/2025 10:00

As was established some time ago the word Christmas hasn’t been banned at the OP’s school.

The professionally offended will have to stand down.

SerendipityJane · 13/11/2025 10:03

Notonthestairs · 13/11/2025 10:00

As was established some time ago the word Christmas hasn’t been banned at the OP’s school.

The professionally offended will have to stand down.

Facts form the very least part of their fury though. Much like the Bible.

"Now that story isn't true. But what it tells us ...."

PGmicstand · 13/11/2025 10:05

Hoppinggreen · 10/11/2025 13:14

I REALLY hope you are being sarcastic
Chocolate eggs (or any eggs) are totally unrelated to Christianity, but then neither is Easter

The word Easter was very rarely found on chocolate eggs. Seems to be a bit of a Mandela effect.

fairydustt · 13/11/2025 10:05

Swiftasthewind · 13/11/2025 08:44

No it’s not. Nobody is stopping your from celebrating at home, buying the presents and tucking in to a big greasy turkey carcass with whoever else who may partake. But we live in a multicultural country now and the old traditions should be left with the old attitudes, in the dustbin of time.

Winter festival sounds wonderful.

’old traditions should go in the dustbin’ I bet it’s only the UK that you have this attitude about

BackToLurk · 13/11/2025 10:05

Notonthestairs · 13/11/2025 10:00

As was established some time ago the word Christmas hasn’t been banned at the OP’s school.

The professionally offended will have to stand down.

You. Coming here with your 'facts'. How dare you.

soddingspiderseason · 13/11/2025 10:11

Rosscameasdoody · 13/11/2025 09:37

Who is forcing anyone to take part in it ? The issue here is that the word ‘Christmas’ itself implies a Christian festival so is not inclusive to non Christians. Well why on earth should it be ? Any more than Ramadan, Diwali or Eid should be renamed to make it more accessible to those not of the faith involved ? The fact that many don’t associate it with religion is totally irrelevant. It’s one more custom, part of our heritage, that’s being eroded for the most ridiculous of reasons, what stands out here is that in all likelihood no-one of any other religion or culture has complained, but some white, woke, middle class person has taken it upon themselves to be offended on their behalf.

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“Christmas” is Yule, to mark the midwinter solstice. Christians can go to church and celebrate the virgin birth. Not because of-one is stopping them celebrating. But stop trying to suggest that our current ‘Christmas’ traditions anything whatsoever to do with the birth of Christ. Santa? Reindeer? Tinsel? Trees with baubles? John Lewis adverts? Nope. Be Christian and live and let live.

Mothership4two · 13/11/2025 10:18

Swiftasthewind · 13/11/2025 08:44

No it’s not. Nobody is stopping your from celebrating at home, buying the presents and tucking in to a big greasy turkey carcass with whoever else who may partake. But we live in a multicultural country now and the old traditions should be left with the old attitudes, in the dustbin of time.

Winter festival sounds wonderful.

Nobody is stopping you from not celebrating. Celebrating Christmas is cultural and an ancient tradtion that predates Christianity. Multicultural societies usually blend different aspects of their cultures - one of its major strengths IMO

PGmicstand · 13/11/2025 10:18

fairydustt · 13/11/2025 10:05

’old traditions should go in the dustbin’ I bet it’s only the UK that you have this attitude about

Do you need a tape measure for the length of that jump?

Swiftasthewind · 13/11/2025 10:25

fairydustt · 13/11/2025 10:05

’old traditions should go in the dustbin’ I bet it’s only the UK that you have this attitude about

The ‘UK’ has spent the entirety of its existence imposing its ‘culture’ on the entire world, so in a sense of restorative justice you could certainly argue that this country should surrender its own customs to make people living here more comfortable. Many immigrants who come to these shores will have suffered myriad horrors at the hands of their British oppressors, people seem to forget that. Conveniently one might suppose.

Swiftasthewind · 13/11/2025 10:32

PGmicstand · 13/11/2025 10:18

Do you need a tape measure for the length of that jump?

Well quite, many of the European colonial powers can lose their oppressive identity for all I care. The same goes for the great Colonial failed experiment that is the United States.

Hopefully Chinese hegemony will rise in the not too distant future and replace the white supremacist systems that plague our daily lives in the west.

SerendipityJane · 13/11/2025 10:32

The ‘UK’ has spent the entirety of its existence imposing its ‘culture’ on the entire world,

With the irony that we imported "Christmas" from Germany ....

BackToLurk · 13/11/2025 10:35

Swiftasthewind · 13/11/2025 10:32

Well quite, many of the European colonial powers can lose their oppressive identity for all I care. The same goes for the great Colonial failed experiment that is the United States.

Hopefully Chinese hegemony will rise in the not too distant future and replace the white supremacist systems that plague our daily lives in the west.

Are you unwell?

Ddakji · 13/11/2025 10:39

Swiftasthewind · 13/11/2025 10:25

The ‘UK’ has spent the entirety of its existence imposing its ‘culture’ on the entire world, so in a sense of restorative justice you could certainly argue that this country should surrender its own customs to make people living here more comfortable. Many immigrants who come to these shores will have suffered myriad horrors at the hands of their British oppressors, people seem to forget that. Conveniently one might suppose.

What a load of twaddle.

Mothership4two · 13/11/2025 10:43

Swiftasthewind · 13/11/2025 10:25

The ‘UK’ has spent the entirety of its existence imposing its ‘culture’ on the entire world, so in a sense of restorative justice you could certainly argue that this country should surrender its own customs to make people living here more comfortable. Many immigrants who come to these shores will have suffered myriad horrors at the hands of their British oppressors, people seem to forget that. Conveniently one might suppose.

What century are you posting from?

Wellyoudidaskaboutit · 13/11/2025 10:45

You've got two options:

  1. Get over yourself
  2. Paint a mini roundabout
Hoppinggreen · 13/11/2025 10:46

BackToLurk · 13/11/2025 10:35

Are you unwell?

Or Chinese?

Notonthestairs · 13/11/2025 10:47

I imagine the PTA just wanted to encourage as many parents/grandparents/anyone else to spend at their fair.

It’s a fundraiser. It will pay for playground equipment or pritt sticks or something.

I suppose the PTA might have grander ambitions than that (overthrowing western cultural imperialism etc) but I doubt it.

Baninarama · 13/11/2025 10:57

Swiftasthewind · 13/11/2025 10:25

The ‘UK’ has spent the entirety of its existence imposing its ‘culture’ on the entire world, so in a sense of restorative justice you could certainly argue that this country should surrender its own customs to make people living here more comfortable. Many immigrants who come to these shores will have suffered myriad horrors at the hands of their British oppressors, people seem to forget that. Conveniently one might suppose.

I mean, arguing us British should surrender our customs as reparations is completely nuts, but you do have a point about immigrants being drawn to the UK as a direct result of GB having spent hundreds of years imposing its culture on its subjects abroad.

When you've spent decades telling people that their language and lifestyle is backward and in comparison yours is the most advanced and best and an example to the world, don't be surprised when the people you've been advertising it to turn up on your doorstep wanting a piece of the action.

CambridgeLightBlue · 13/11/2025 11:17

Swiftasthewind · 13/11/2025 08:35

Christmas is a very Eurocentric Christian celebration that is particularly exclusionary to people from other places around the world and of different faiths. It should have no place in schools or other public places.

Eurocentric? Have you ever been to Africa? Or America? Or parts of Asia? Christianity and Christmas is far from eurocentric!

Blizzardofleaves · 13/11/2025 11:35

Swiftasthewind · 13/11/2025 10:32

Well quite, many of the European colonial powers can lose their oppressive identity for all I care. The same goes for the great Colonial failed experiment that is the United States.

Hopefully Chinese hegemony will rise in the not too distant future and replace the white supremacist systems that plague our daily lives in the west.

Where are you from? How is Moscow these days? Feeling chilly yet?

Blizzardofleaves · 13/11/2025 11:38

CambridgeLightBlue · 13/11/2025 11:17

Eurocentric? Have you ever been to Africa? Or America? Or parts of Asia? Christianity and Christmas is far from eurocentric!

Christnas is celebrated all over the world from Tahiti to Helsinki. It’s a global phenomenon. There are of course those that don’t celebrate and that’s fine too. I noticed the envy before, and the fact everywhere speaks English is another bone of contention amongst some. Christians exist everywhere therefore so does Christmas.

Swiftasthewind · 13/11/2025 11:42

Blizzardofleaves · 13/11/2025 11:35

Where are you from? How is Moscow these days? Feeling chilly yet?

I haven’t been interested in the affairs of Moscow since the last days of 1991, do not insult me by calling me Russian.

Swiftasthewind · 13/11/2025 11:44

Baninarama · 13/11/2025 10:57

I mean, arguing us British should surrender our customs as reparations is completely nuts, but you do have a point about immigrants being drawn to the UK as a direct result of GB having spent hundreds of years imposing its culture on its subjects abroad.

When you've spent decades telling people that their language and lifestyle is backward and in comparison yours is the most advanced and best and an example to the world, don't be surprised when the people you've been advertising it to turn up on your doorstep wanting a piece of the action.

I agree with most of your comment but why is it nuts? British culture is, in effect, stolen from other cultures from around the world. There isn’t really anything for it to lose.

awakeandasleep · 13/11/2025 12:02

Swiftasthewind · 13/11/2025 11:44

I agree with most of your comment but why is it nuts? British culture is, in effect, stolen from other cultures from around the world. There isn’t really anything for it to lose.

I think maybe you are jealous/surprised that the Brits do have a strong cultural identity that is shaped by Christianity. Unfortunately for you and luckily for us that won't be disappearing any time soon.

Blizzardofleaves · 13/11/2025 12:03

Swiftasthewind · 13/11/2025 11:42

I haven’t been interested in the affairs of Moscow since the last days of 1991, do not insult me by calling me Russian.

Well you are clearly not British so why do you care about our traditions?