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School not sending physical books home for phonics learning

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LoftyPlumFox · 07/11/2025 16:00

I might just be massively behind the times but... my daughter has just started Reception and we are expected to read online books with her to practice phonics. We don't have a tablet at home so this would have to be on a laptop. Am I being unreasonable to expect a physical book to be sent home so we can read it together on the sofa rather than on a laptop screen?? Or is this the norm at primary schools these days?

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NerrSnerr · 08/11/2025 09:20

BlueJuniper94 · 07/11/2025 16:15

The education system are hell bent on ushering in the post literate society. Orwell worried about books bring banned. Huxley knew the greater threat was not having to ban them because nobody would want to read one.

My children are 11 and 8 and they read more books in school than I ever did in school in the 90s. Our teachers read to us in primary but we didn’t have the physical books to follow along with like they do now. Reading after school is pushed a lot more too. My daughter is in year 7 t a local state. The English homework is online (sparx reader so basically an e book) , but on top of that they have guided reading every day where the whole form group read together, these are classics the school think you should read and then at the end of the day they have 10 minutes of personal reading where they read their own books. I assume it’s not hugely dissimilar across the country.

drspouse · 08/11/2025 09:26

mamagogo1 · 08/11/2025 09:10

I do think this phonics obsession is a huge mistake though, i didn’t learn with phonics (we learned whole words then) and did absolutely fine, fluently reading by six, my elder dd was taught to read by me as overseas, reading properly by 5, no silly phonics - my younger dd however was in school in uk and struggled terribly to learn to read because her school used then synthetic phonics scheme, eventually at 7 I spent the summer teaching her my way and she learned to read. We all have dyslexia!

It's a good thing you aren't in charge of national reading policy then, isn't it, as "I did just fine" does not trump "the research over many years and thousands of kids shows..."

1apenny2apenny · 08/11/2025 09:27

We all know the importance of books and the downsides to screens. So many children will be affected by this especially those that can’t afford books.

Its surprising though because BP has said every school must have a library and £10m has been set aside for this.

Lastly, I assume it’s cheaper because parents are expected to have the tech needed. No doubt some will cotton in to this and before long school will be providing the tech at a cost if £££! I’m also guessing it won’t be that much cheaper as these companies will have a model that means it isn’t.

dabdab · 08/11/2025 09:51

How could we fine parents of children that come in without breakfast, or don’t take their jumper off on a very hot day because ‘mummy doesn’t want it lost’? Also, people say just go to the library but many libraries do not have a scheme of phonetically decodable books, not to mention that the children who really really need the practise come from a family where library attendance is not part of what they do.

sittingonabeach · 08/11/2025 09:59

@1apenny2apenny how far do you think £10m goes? There are about 9m pupils in England across about 30,000 schools. That wouldn’t even buy one book per pupil

MrsFlibbleisverycross · 08/11/2025 13:59

GrooveArmada · 07/11/2025 23:21

But why are you not charging parents for a replacement book? Or getting them all to chip in in September, deposit money, refundable only if all books are back by the end of term. It's not that hard, certainly better for the children to have physical books and this should be a priority. It's about how to make this happen, but that's a separate point. There's overwhelming evidence in favour of ditching screens in schools.

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It was tried but with all best intentions, you can’t make people pay if they can’t, or they don’t want to.

openthewindoweveryday · 08/11/2025 18:16

Peridoteage · 08/11/2025 07:51

As Ofsted now expect complete 'fidelity' to the scheme, schools all had to match all their reading scheme books to the phonic scheme and have had to spend thousands to buy a whole new system.

You don't not have to buy new books.

Our school basically spent a few months going through all their existing books and rematching them to the new scheme. It is possible, especially at stage 4/5 where the children have learned a lot of sounds.

Have you had an Ofsted since doing this? We did exactly what you said in my last school, our EYFS and KS1 staff spent literally days of their own time in the summer holidays going through book by book to match it to the SW scheme they started using. Ofsted came and the inspector picked them up on a singular instance of the ‘oy’ sound in a book which had been matched to a unit before that sound had been taught. The vast majority of old Pink and Red band books have sounds which are way past the Reception phases and this makes it very difficult to TRULY match them up.

LMBK33 · 08/11/2025 22:55

I am going to assume that this school uses the Little Wandle phonics scheme where ch have 3 reads of that book a week in school focusing on different skills - it is then sent home to practise with. Ch move very rapidly through this scheme and many schools arw inundated with ch learning phonics uo to year 6 which means a lot of books are required and they are often rotated though school. These books arw incredible expensive and schools just don't have the funding to buy enough to send them home for the amount of pupils learning phonics (as its not just reception ch anymore). Whilst I agree physical books are best this is for phonetically practise only and you can still.enjot other books at home with your ch. I personally make sure my class have a tell to the library once a week and take home a book for pleasure. If I have certain parents that have issues with online books or are reducing screen time I then spend lots of time photocopying those books for them. Unfortunately it's just not so black and white.

CrispySquid · 08/11/2025 23:47

Of course schools would prefer you to read actual physical books to using an e-book but they would prefer you to use an e-book compared to no book at all. They are hard pressed to send physical books home now due to lack of funds and because there is a significant proportion of parents and children in this country who vandalise or break books or don’t return them regularly and expect the school to just deal with it. Replacing books cost money.

Fortunately, you can go to the library to get as many books as you want for free, buy books cheaply online or in charity shops or borrow them off friends and other children.

When we grew up it was never expected that the school would provide an endless stream of books and if they didn’t, it didn’t mean literacy and reading stopped. How peculiar. Everyone who wanted to read at home or who wanted to encourage reading at home either bought books or used the library. It was never seen as the schools job to provide basic life resources. It’s lovely if kids can check out books from the school library but if they can’t, just go to any library or buy them.

Shinyandnew1 · 09/11/2025 09:34

NameChangedForThis2025 · 08/11/2025 08:51

Christ. I knew it was bad but the education system is on its knees if it can’t afford to give kids actual books to learn from. Some kids won’t have books at home or parents who take them to libraries. Books should be a core part of what you get at school. If schools can’t provide books for kids, things really are fucked.

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Yes, things really are fucked, I'm glad people are noticing.

Schools can't afford books.

Schools can't afford to replace crumbling buildings.

Schools can't afford to pay class TAs so many schools are just one teacher and 30 pupils. Before people say, 'well, I was at school with just one teacher and no TA and that was fine, the teacher should be able to cope'-I can guarantee the curriculum and expectations were completely different, the behaviour was very different and if a child kicked/bit or hit the teacher, they probably wouldn't have been staying in that class for long without support, they would also not have had high need pupils who are non-verbal and in nappies, alongside 5-6 others with ASD, ADHD, and no funding with which to support them.

Schools can't afford to pay experienced teachers so are putting them on 'support' plans to make their life so horrendous, they leave to free up some money in the budget which is desperate.

Schools are putting unqualified staff in to replace them and just not telling parents.

Yes, things are very fucked.

Tortielady · 09/11/2025 11:26

I didn't vote, because on the one hand, I can't think of many things duller than learning to read without access to physical books. On the other, you'd have to be living under a rock somewhere not to know about the financial pressures schools are living with and why e-books might be seen as a way to cover the gap. As others have said, there are children living in homes that don't rattle with gadgets and they'll miss out, maybe to the extent of being held back in possibly the most important thing school has to offer, literacy. That's awful, but if schools are going with what they can get most of their parents to accept, there are good reasons for it. The only way to avoid the trade-off between school budgets and acceptable provision for children regardless of family circumstances is for a lot more money to go into schools and it's hard to see how that will happen.

It's a lot more complex than just money though. For one thing, while learning to read from physical books is easier more pleasurable for some children, learning to read and being a reader aren't necessarily the same. I'm lucky enough to have learned in the late 60s/early 70s, when reading practice was a regular fixture in the primary school day (I don't know if it still is.) Having done the technical stuff with my teacher, and Peter and Jane, Topsy and Tim etc, I went home (I can't remember if we took our reading scheme books home or not) and I was lucky again. We had comics, books and newspapers about the house long before I'd properly grasped the technicalities, so I sharpened my skills with the misdeeds of Naughty Amelia Jane and became a reader. And of course, it was a pre-screen age. Budgetary constraints aside, nowadays we do so much on screens, that many children are more attuned to them than they are to paper and ink and that's how they learn best.

GrooveArmada · 09/11/2025 20:55

Mumptynumpty · 08/11/2025 09:00

And parents who can't afford tablets etc? The financial burden of reading has been passed to parents and I don't think that's ok.

I mean it's simple if you can afford it but many can't. If you have more than one child now each needs a tablet or they have to wait and can't read simultaneously with their older sibling, dad or GP. Then add in the maths homework and other subjects.

Screen time has been added to significantly by schools expectations.

100% this. I'm not buying into the argument that parents can't afford to pay deposits for relatively cheap books, but they're magically affording tablets for their children. Completely unfair of the schools to push this expense AND to ignore scientific evidence of the nagative impact of screen use on children. It's crazy.

Geranium879 · 09/11/2025 21:00

GehenSieweiter · 07/11/2025 16:18

Books aren't banned, but they are expensive, and get lost and damaged.
Try your local library or charity shops, as pp suggested @LoftyPlumFox.
If you have a printer could you print some pages out?

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iPads are also expensive and get lost and damaged… but they can afford those! Plus any amount of gamified shitty Edtech apps….

GehenSieweiter · 10/11/2025 07:35

Geranium879 · 09/11/2025 21:00

iPads are also expensive and get lost and damaged… but they can afford those! Plus any amount of gamified shitty Edtech apps….

Ipads don't get sent home at primary school, not where I live anyway.

GehenSieweiter · 10/11/2025 07:37

CrispySquid · 08/11/2025 23:47

Of course schools would prefer you to read actual physical books to using an e-book but they would prefer you to use an e-book compared to no book at all. They are hard pressed to send physical books home now due to lack of funds and because there is a significant proportion of parents and children in this country who vandalise or break books or don’t return them regularly and expect the school to just deal with it. Replacing books cost money.

Fortunately, you can go to the library to get as many books as you want for free, buy books cheaply online or in charity shops or borrow them off friends and other children.

When we grew up it was never expected that the school would provide an endless stream of books and if they didn’t, it didn’t mean literacy and reading stopped. How peculiar. Everyone who wanted to read at home or who wanted to encourage reading at home either bought books or used the library. It was never seen as the schools job to provide basic life resources. It’s lovely if kids can check out books from the school library but if they can’t, just go to any library or buy them.

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Yes, I loved the local library as a child/teen, school library wasn't great though.

MumoftwoNC · 10/11/2025 22:59

Geranium879 · 09/11/2025 21:00

iPads are also expensive and get lost and damaged… but they can afford those! Plus any amount of gamified shitty Edtech apps….

Agreed. So often it's that someone is promoted into a role where they have a larger budget than they were used to, so they knee jerk into paying for some shiny techy subscription that everyone else has to be trained to use and is a bore. Then the school is locked into paying for it for a certain time and then there's the sunk costs fallacy. Aargh

HeyThereDelila · 10/11/2025 23:01

It’s the norm at my DS’s school because of reduced budgets.

I bought a lot of the reading scheme books online, but now follow the set text weekly on a laptop now DS is in year 2. I don’t want to encourage screens either but this way it avoids the iPad and I don’t spend £5 a week anymore on physical phonics scheme books though I still spend far too much on lots of other books for him.

Geranium879 · 10/11/2025 23:27

GehenSieweiter · 10/11/2025 07:35

Ipads don't get sent home at primary school, not where I live anyway.

They do where I live, from the age of 7.

IkeaMeatballGravy · 10/11/2025 23:39

Our school tried this one year, along with an online reading diary. The next year physical books and diaries were back. I'm guessing less parents read with their child at home when it meant faffing about with apps and huddling around a phone screen. I'm not sure what they cut from the budget to make this possible but I am so glad to see the books back!

Maybe schools should hold frequent book amnesties or have some place where books can be discreetly posted back, no questions asked.

Laura997 · 11/11/2025 08:24

Speak to the teacher and say you don't have a tablet. Chances are they do have some physical versions of the book - just perhaps not enough for everyone in the class.

You can only ask and see what happens.

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