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To be so insecure

20 replies

sweartin · 02/11/2025 09:42

He is going through a divorce and had a two year affair whilst married. He is convinced no-one knows of this affair. The affair partner ended the affair and remains with her husband.

When we met up he was open about all of it. I was 6 months out of my last relationship. Both of us still friendly with exes (him the affair partner not the ex-wife). We live in a rural area, you bump into people. Both said yes we'd have a chat with them. Still get the occasional friendly message. No problem. Had the are we exclusive conversation. All good.

Went on our first holiday. Five months into seeing each other. A big birthday for him, a message from her. I asked are you really over, asked to see messages. Most were of friendly nature. But a few crossed a line for me. Discussion about havig not seen each another in ages, but they must have crosssed paths - he said about her top that she looked pretty.

Also in the weeks leading up to our holiday. Some discussion of changing cars, not seeing her around. That he misses her and the good times thay had. He said it would be good to catch up over a pint. Lots of banter about his birthday and referring to a date they had on his previous birthday.

Soooo.. wasn't happy at all. He asked to see my messages with my ex of which there were more messages but all very platonic. No kisses, hearts etc.

Half of me thinks I should have ended it there and then, he crossed a line. The other half thinks they show they hadn't met. No I still love you's. No plans to meet. Her messages back were cooler in tone if anything.

We managed to enjoy the second half of the holiday. We are now four months further down the line. But I seem to be unable to let it go and will be triggered by something and feel the need to end the relationship, want to check his phone (he has allowed me to do this, but I hate myself for wanting to check). He agrees the messages were overfriendly, says he's embarrased her, himself and is very sorry for hurtring me. Says he was and idiot and that there was no intention behind the messages, just that he was continuing to message in the same style as times gone by.

I have had jealousy/insecurity issues in past relationships and have low self esteem. Reading this back I feel like I don't want to end a relationship that at times is so good. But am plauged by insecurity and what if's and it can be exhausing. I also can't believe that I'm writing this at my age - hardly a spring chicken!!!! I also swing from accepting people have affairs for various reasons v. not trustworthy.

OP posts:
ColinOfficeTrolley · 02/11/2025 09:46

Very long post to say you don't trust your boyfriend.

You trust him, or you don't. It is that simple.

If you don't, dump him.

GarlicBreadStan · 02/11/2025 09:47

You're in a relationship with someone who previously had an affair and you've not broken up with him yet?

I would never be in a relationship with someone who cheated. You're insecure for a reason - because he's shown his true colours in the past. Dump him

Ihavepaidalotforthisstory · 02/11/2025 09:48

I wouldn't choose to be with a man who had an affair during marriage.

Tagyoureit · 02/11/2025 09:50

I think any relationship that makes you feel this insecure and not yourself is not a good relationship.
You will always have this doubt about him and this woman he had an affair with. Personally, I find it odd they are still in contact especially if she is still married to the man she cheated on.

Shininglightshiningbright · 02/11/2025 09:51

I'm sorry OP but I think it's very obvious he isn't over her. No doubt if the OW had left her H he would be with her, and probably if she became single in the future there's every likelihood they would get back together.

And that's not even going into the fact that he is a liar and a cheat: carrying on a two year affair whilst married involves an awful lot of lying, deception and cheating.

I don't see how you can ever trust this man. And you have seen with your own eyes he is still in contact with this OW and has told her he has feelings for her.
I don't see much happiness if you continue your relationship with him.

GreyCarpet · 02/11/2025 09:55

Half of me thinks I should have ended it there and then, he crossed a line.

Yes. All of me thinks that.

I wouldn't date someone I knew had had an affair and I wouldn't remain with someone who said they missed an ex and the good times they'd had together and was still in touch with whoever that ex was.

Zanatdy · 02/11/2025 10:06

You don’t trust him, and probably for good reason. When you’re at the stage of checking phones or wanting to see messages, it’s over.

Summerlilly · 02/11/2025 10:07

You can’t trust him, he’s had an affair.
Granted it’s not on you, but I’d bet any money if she called him back he’d come running. Otherwise he wouldn’t still be in contact with her.

”Once a cheater, always a cheater” is a saying for a reason.

sweartin · 02/11/2025 10:13

He's here with me this morning. Still asleep. We will go out walking later and have a lovely time. But underneath it all like you say there's this issus that's never going to go away.

I'm really attracted to him. We have conversations about all sorts, things I've never discussed with anyone so feel a strong connection. We've known each other for decades as friends from afar. I want it to work but realise it can't and that he probably shouldn't even be in a relationship 😪

OP posts:
GreyCarpet · 02/11/2025 10:27

”Once a cheater, always a cheater” is a saying for a reason.

I disagree with this.

After all, 'the one who smelt it dealt it' is also a saying but has no basis in fact.

Some people.will have an affair/cheat and never do it again. In some cases, having done it once is the very thing that means they can say with confidence that they would never do it (again).

But a 2 year affair, when he is still in touch with the OW and professes to miss her and the good times they shared? Nah.

Brightbluesomething · 02/11/2025 11:22

He has form for cheating and lying to a partner so he’s likely quite good at it.
You won’t ever trust him. If the OW changes her mind he’ll be straight back to her.
If you want to live with the constant worry of when he’s going to cheat next then that’s your call. But I wouldn’t.

FuzzyWolf · 02/11/2025 11:26

You don’t trust him (possibly with good reason) and ultimately that will ruin the relationship. You need to decide whether to ensure you move on from it or you end things. If the latter, you need to work on yourself before entering another relationship because you will feel the same way there.

Deedeebob · 02/11/2025 11:34

Sorry OP but he will be back to shagging the OW soon!

ToKittyornottoKitty · 02/11/2025 11:37

It’s not really insecurity when you know he’s a cheat… you’re worried because you know what’s going to happen and are bizarrely just waiting it out to see if you can catch him out doing it, or if he’ll restart his affair and leave you. You don’t trust him for good reason… not really sure what reassurance you are expecting here

Beanie567 · 02/11/2025 11:37

If she becomes available he won’t be with you!

Refreshing0 · 02/11/2025 12:18

Post are getting longer and longer on MN.

GarlicBreadStan · 02/11/2025 12:20

Refreshing0 · 02/11/2025 12:18

Post are getting longer and longer on MN.

Don't read them then 🫨

sweartin · 02/11/2025 21:02

Thanks all for the replies, pretty unanimous.

However I’m still very much enjoying his company and thinking life is short with no guarantees with anyone. Taking a chance and foolish perhaps, but deciding to look to the future and focusing on that. If I get hurt then I’ll deal with it then, and not worry about it today.

I’ll also work on my own self esteem to deal with issues that i’ve had in relationships since my 20s as I’ve never really trusted anyone, and it has ruined things in the past. Thanks 😊

OP posts:
GreyCarpet · 02/11/2025 22:24

I'm not sure why deciding to 'look to the future' doesn't mean you want to be with someone honest, decent and trustworthy who loves you and isn't pining after someone else but, hey, there's nowt so qieer as folk 🤷🏻‍♀️

Sassylovesbooks · 05/11/2025 10:03

You don't trust your boyfriend because he cheated on his wife for 2 years. That in itself tells you that he is capable of lying, and is untrustworthy. Yes, of course it could be a one-off and he never cheats again but equally it might not be. The only reason the affair ended was because the OW ended it, and decided to stay with her husband. Not only is this man going through a divorce but he's recently split up with his AP, so everything is still very raw. You have to ask yourself why has he got himself into another relationship??! Quite honestly, it's the last thing he needs. He's kept in touch with the AP, and it's been a relatively short time since they split, he's still emotionally attached to her. To me, that fact seems glaringly obvious. Just because she was the AP, doesn't mean feelings are automatically switched off once the relationship ends. OP, surely you can do better than this man? He's a liar, cheat and untrustworthy. Wouldn't you rather have a man, who is decent, trustworthy, honest and isn't knee deep in a divorce/affairs?!!! I'd end this relationship, it sounds like way too much drama, for such a short relationship. I couldn't be arsed with it.

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