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To think top universities should do better encouraging respectful debate?

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F1rstDoNoHarm · 29/10/2025 09:10

"A hero in Oxford University’s Biology Department has been putting post-it notes with challenging quotes on top of trans propaganda. In response, Oxford has launched a 'formal investigation into unacceptable defacing'. When the 'culprit is caught', they’ve threatened expulsion." (James Esses, therapist and investigative journalist.)

Am I being unreasonable to think that the University of Oxford of all places should be able to cope with a piece of paper presenting an opposing view on a notice board, rather than seek to silence critical thinking and biological reality? Oxford isn't your average university - it'd be great if they kept it that way!

Am I being unreasonable?

  • Yes you are being unreasonable - the 'culprit' must be found and investigated. Quotes on post-it notes on a notice board are entirely unacceptable.
  • No you are NOT being unreasonable - the university should encourage an open debate and welcome all views when it comes to contested beliefs.

https://x.com/JamesEsses/status/1980298054105477172

James Esses (@JamesEsses) on X

A hero in Oxford University’s Biology Department has been putting post-it notes with challenging quotes on top of trans propaganda. In response, Oxford has launched a “formal investigation into unacceptable defacing”. When the “culprit is caught”, the...

https://x.com/JamesEsses/status/1980298054105477172

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GasperyJacquesRoberts · 29/10/2025 13:55

Ddakji · 29/10/2025 09:48

The alphabet soup isn’t a sacred cow. Their “initiatives” can be challenged.

Sure and people who insinuate that, say, lesbians are demonstrating a talent for self-deception can have their bigotry highlighted.

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 29/10/2025 13:58

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 29/10/2025 09:49

Of course there is, but they don’t tend to communicate via George Orwell quotes.

Now there's an assertion that could do with some justification.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 29/10/2025 14:04

JHound · 29/10/2025 12:26

I am only interested in commenting on the specific topic mentioned in the OP.

If you want a different topic of conversation quote respond to somebody else.

If you choose to ignore the context of this incident you risk completely misunderstanding the meaning, as other posters on this thread have demonstrated.

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 29/10/2025 14:08

Ddakji · 29/10/2025 11:57

How are those notes anti-LGBT?

Possibly by insinuating that being homosexual is to engage in self-deception?

Ddakji · 29/10/2025 14:15

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 29/10/2025 14:08

Possibly by insinuating that being homosexual is to engage in self-deception?

Oh, I think you know that’s not aimed at homosexuals. Still, that’s where forced teaming gets you - gays and lesbians lumped in with and to shore up and legitimise the delusional.

JHound · 29/10/2025 14:16

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 29/10/2025 14:04

If you choose to ignore the context of this incident you risk completely misunderstanding the meaning, as other posters on this thread have demonstrated.

Ok

coldiris · 29/10/2025 14:20

Unfortunately, it's not just Oxford. It seems the whole country and the world is just going the way of "it's either my way or the high way". If you remember, during covid, asking questions about jabs was automatically labelled as antiscience and antivax. Now we have the same about Gaza and Ukraine. If you question anything Israel is doing, you are automatically labelled antisemitic, especially God forbid if you criticise anything it does. If you ask questions about supporting Ukraine, you are automatically a Putin's bot or a Kremlin's agent. If you ask questions about LGBT, you are automatically transphobic/homophobic or whatever have you. If you challenge the climage/green agenda logic and narrative, you are a conspiracy theorist and a lunatic. You basically can only have either the approved mainstream view or just shut up about it and don't ask or say anything. The fact that the same corporations own most of the media and news sources doesn't help the matters. The fact that corporate powers lobby most governments to promote their agendas also doesn't help facilitate free debate on anything.

It is rather frightening to imagine that one day we may return to the world where people will be telling us that the Earth is flat again and it may be antiscience not to accept it!

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 29/10/2025 15:25

Ddakji · 29/10/2025 14:15

Oh, I think you know that’s not aimed at homosexuals. Still, that’s where forced teaming gets you - gays and lesbians lumped in with and to shore up and legitimise the delusional.

No, I don't know that this wasn't aimed at homosexuals. Do you? If so, how?

LadyGreyjoy · 29/10/2025 15:36

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 29/10/2025 15:25

No, I don't know that this wasn't aimed at homosexuals. Do you? If so, how?

She's an FWR poster. You can't have a reasoned debate with hem they are fanatics and resort straight to dramatic language like "forced teaming" to claim that no one could ever be homosexual because that would be obscene, they are obviously just transphobia which is fine because they're challenging them, not discriminating against or harassing them. I'd just give up now personally if you value your sanity.

YourLuckyBrickOtter · 29/10/2025 16:51

Lol @ the leading answers by OP

"Yes you are being unreasonable - the 'culprit' must be found and investigated. Quotes on post-it notes on a notice board are entirely unacceptable."

You can think that the culprit should be found without thinking that "quotes on a noticeboard are entirely unacceptable".

F1rstDoNoHarm · 29/10/2025 18:14

'Culprit', 'unacceptable' etc is Oxford University's take on things, not mine. I'm only asking whether this is a reasonable and proportionate reaction to a piece of paper, in a university setting.

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