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AIBU to think friendships built on unequal footing turn into either exploitation or charity?

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KeenTaupeDog · 26/10/2025 21:12

When I started uni a few years ago I was really lonely and desperate for connection. There was a girl on my course who was always posting questions in the group chat, and I was usually the only one who bothered to reply. That tiny bit of kindness turned into what I thought was a friendship.

She was from a developing country on a scholarship, told me about her dad’s death, her family relying on her income, etc. I genuinely felt sorry for her and wanted to help. I gave her my notes, explained stuff over calls, even donated to one of her fundraisers. I didn’t expect much back – I knew she had a lot going on.

But it quickly changed. The generosity started being treated like obligation. She’d get annoyed if I didn’t donate again, or call me stingy. She wanted souvenirs from my holidays, intros to people with funding, added me to random WhatsApp groups about “opportunities”. When I pushed back, she got rude and started mocking my grades.

She ran three GoFundMes in less than a year, each “urgent”. What struck me was the expectation – as if of course her Western friends would chip in. She even said asking for souvenirs was “normal in her culture”, but none of her other friends did that, so I don’t buy it.

There was a huge imbalance. I was focused on career building, she was limited by visa rules and did care work on weekends. I helped her and her friends academically but they never offered much in return. They didn’t understand my neurodiversity either – acted like it was some “excuse” I made up. My parents told me to “keep being kind” because I was lonely, which made it worse because I felt guilty even when I wanted to pull away.

Eventually I realised the whole thing wasn’t friendship. It was obligation on my end and entitlement on hers. And it had this weird colonial undertone too – like she genuinely believed Westerners owe her because of history, so I should basically subsidise her life. I do get where that belief comes from, historically speaking, but applying it personally felt manipulative.

I’ve replayed it a hundred times wondering if I overshared about money, or should’ve kept boundaries clearer. But the bottom line is: kindness without reciprocity just becomes charity. And charity isn’t friendship.
AIBU to think that friendships only work when both people can give roughly something back – even if it’s just emotional effort or respect? Otherwise it turns into either exploitation or pity.

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Chickenhorse · 26/10/2025 21:16

A real friend only asks for your company not your money. Do you spend time with her or does she just message you and ask for money ? Do you do things like chat over coffee or meals? Or are you just helping with her uni work and giving her money?

KeenTaupeDog · 26/10/2025 21:17

Chickenhorse · 26/10/2025 21:16

A real friend only asks for your company not your money. Do you spend time with her or does she just message you and ask for money ? Do you do things like chat over coffee or meals? Or are you just helping with her uni work and giving her money?

Or are you just helping with her uni work and giving her money? unfortunately just this ... i cut her off after she begged me for souvenirs, then asked me for my coursework as she had to redo and complained to me about being in a low paid job (the care worker)

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StokePotteries · 26/10/2025 21:23

I'm glad you realised and pushed back. Hanging out with manipulative users will never make lonely people feel less lonely.

Financial imbalance is, imo, very hard to navigate within a friendship. I have a couple of far richer friends and I simply cannot offer what they offer me, materially. And occasionally spend far more than I can afford just to endure they don't always pick up the tab.

Icecreamisthebest · 26/10/2025 21:24

Not necessarily. It depends very much on the people involved in the friendship.

In the example you give, this person was very clearly a user. But it's not the case every time. I have a friend who earns less and has substantially more financial obligations. We meet for walks or coffees. I really value her friendship and the time we spend together.

I think problems are more likely to arise when the less well off persons budget is not taken into account when planning meet ups. And especialy for trips away.

ThatGladTiger · 26/10/2025 21:25

I don’t think this is an example of a friendship sadly.

JustGoClickLikeALightSwitch · 26/10/2025 21:31

Not a friendship, and I wonder if your neurodiversity is making it harder for you to recognise that, and perhaps to form friendships more generally. Speaking as an autistic woman.

WhatNoRaisins · 26/10/2025 21:32

This person sounds like they were a user from the start but I think I agree. Two unequal people can become friends with no ill intentions and the unequal situation can cause problems over time.

KeenTaupeDog · 26/10/2025 21:52

JustGoClickLikeALightSwitch · 26/10/2025 21:31

Not a friendship, and I wonder if your neurodiversity is making it harder for you to recognise that, and perhaps to form friendships more generally. Speaking as an autistic woman.

I knew she was dodgy af but had no choice but to buddy up with her as nobody else on the course was speaking to me

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ChristmasHug · 26/10/2025 22:00

This one was just a user. It can work fine so long as the time you spend together fits with the lower earners budget.

I made many friends from affluent families at uni but the ones I stayed in touch with were the ones I played sport or walked with or met for a lunchtime coffee. The meal,night out, holiday crowd soon went beyond my budget and whilst they said they were happy to treat me my circumstances were unlikely to ever match theirs and funding my holidays indefinitely is unacceptable to me.

BadgernTheGarden · 26/10/2025 22:01

KeenTaupeDog · 26/10/2025 21:17

Or are you just helping with her uni work and giving her money? unfortunately just this ... i cut her off after she begged me for souvenirs, then asked me for my coursework as she had to redo and complained to me about being in a low paid job (the care worker)

What sort of souvenirs does she expect, mine would be a postcard and maybe a silly bit of tat not anything valuable so if that was what she was expecting she would be very disappointed. I have met these super intense sort of people who try to take over your life, just dump her if it's not for you.

ChristmasHug · 26/10/2025 22:01

KeenTaupeDog · 26/10/2025 21:52

I knew she was dodgy af but had no choice but to buddy up with her as nobody else on the course was speaking to me

Are you still on the course?

I realised better friends were made from groups and clubs with shared interests.

BadgernTheGarden · 26/10/2025 22:06

KeenTaupeDog · 26/10/2025 21:52

I knew she was dodgy af but had no choice but to buddy up with her as nobody else on the course was speaking to me

Better to not speak to anyone if they are that bad, although I've never been on a course where if you ask another participant something they haven't answered you, may not be best buds but general chat about the course is usually pretty general. Of course if you are very shy it is difficult, but I'm not very pushy.

LavenderRagdoll · 26/10/2025 22:13

I agree with you, and well done for learning this very important life lesson.

FWIW, I’m not ND, and I didn’t recognise it until I was well into my 50s. You’re obviously very aware and astute.

KeenTaupeDog · 27/10/2025 07:28

JustGoClickLikeALightSwitch · 26/10/2025 21:31

Not a friendship, and I wonder if your neurodiversity is making it harder for you to recognise that, and perhaps to form friendships more generally. Speaking as an autistic woman.

Yes I too am probs autistic

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