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ExDP and his family can’t cope with DS

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alorinkaya · 26/10/2025 16:06

DS has just turned seven. His dad and I split when he was a baby.

Up until just before the summer holidays, he would spend a Thursday night with his ExDP’s parents and a Friday night with ExDP, he’d drop him off Saturday afternoon.

They now have him for three nights per week, and it’s a lot more time than before as he’d usually see his dad for less than 24hrs a week. I did try to increase it, but he said he is a weekend dad and has to work full time (so I do).

ExDP says they can’t cope with DS’ behaviour, they say it’s affecting them all. Apparently he speaks to them like dirt all the time, doesn’t listen, talks back and doesn’t stop when asked to when play fighting.

ExDP has a new girlfriend who he got with within the last year and she has moved in with him, apparently DS touched her breasts and bottom when he first met her. I spoke to him about this and he hasn’t done it again.

I don’t have these problems with him, my parents don’t have these problems with him, nor do the school. It’s like they’re describing a different child. His teachers comment on his good behaviour, his manners, how caring he is etc.

This has happened before, when they had a particularly bad day with DS and he dropped him off at mine and refused to have him for the rest of the week (and said this to DS’ face).

I have tried and tried, spoken to DS until I’m blue in the face but I don’t know what else I can do? I want DS, his dad and his grandparents to be able to enjoy their time together.

Some things ExDP has said that encapsulate the situation/how they feel:

“He’s being parented by us all and it’s us who’s getting the backlash”

”Don’t get me wrong his behaviour has improved and bedtime is better, but this is the bare minimum and he still talks to us like dirt when he doesn’t get what he wants”

“I’ve literally spent a fortune on him trying to do nice things with him, making sure he’s got loads for his birthday, and he still speaks to me dirt”

”I can’t carry on with things being like this without any support”

”I take him out to all these places and make him a priority when he’s with me but it’s like it’s all for nothing”

He wants to sit down and have a meeting with me, him and both sets of grandparents. I am willing to do this if it will help him, but I’m struggling to see the benefit.

I think I struggle that he is asking me for support, when in the past I’ve cried out for support and not got it. For example:

• Last year he was considering moving to Australia, and said he’d see DS for three months a year
• My home was broke into and I was being stalked, I asked him to have DS as I had to move to a refuge and he said he couldn’t.

• He went on holiday and decided to stay an extra week (I think, may have been longer, I can’t remember) so I had to call in sick to work and my mum had to cancel her plans.

He is really trying now and being much better, but the resentment still somewhat lingers.

I am at a loss. I don’t know how to help ExDP. I’d appreciate any advice at all please!

AIBU to not know else I can do?

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RandomMess · 26/10/2025 16:09

I would agree to meet with him/them but insist there is a therapist or at least mediator there.

You need to remind him when he said X and did Y that has had a profound impact on DS and it is going to take a long time for DS to trust him and believe that his Dad loves him.

alorinkaya · 26/10/2025 16:12

Also forgot to say his parents are brilliant, and are very involved with DS.

ExDP is trying really hard with him too, and making so much effort now.

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stealthninjamum · 26/10/2025 16:12

Does he discipline DS?

I wouldn’t feel comfortable having a meeting with that many people ‘ganging up’ on your ds and think it could be you and your exp or maybe your ds with a counsellor first.

rookiemere · 26/10/2025 16:13

Why are you taking what exH says at face value ?
No one else has reported an issue with DS behaviour so it seems like the problem may not lie with him. Have you tried gently asking DS is he wants to go to his DFs and if he is happy there ?

Anditstartedagain · 26/10/2025 16:15

Have you talkd to ex parents about what they thinking is happening?

alorinkaya · 26/10/2025 16:16

stealthninjamum · 26/10/2025 16:12

Does he discipline DS?

I wouldn’t feel comfortable having a meeting with that many people ‘ganging up’ on your ds and think it could be you and your exp or maybe your ds with a counsellor first.

We had a conversation about discipline a month or two ago and he’s been setting boundaries and disciplining him etc.

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Octavia64 · 26/10/2025 16:17

So he doesn’t support you when you need help but he wants support when it’s him who needs help?

in my experience children are pretty good at working out who they can play up for s as nd who they can’t. It’s likely that your exH’s parenting is lacking in some way and your DS is taking advantage of this (not necessarily in a nasty way, more if if dad lets me stay up I’ll stay up sort of way).

you could try agreeing rules across both households but I suspect your ExH may have trouble making them stick.

alorinkaya · 26/10/2025 16:21

Anditstartedagain · 26/10/2025 16:15

Have you talkd to ex parents about what they thinking is happening?

They rang my parents and spoke about it a while ago and say they were struggling with DS and his behaviour. They didn’t say why they thought that was.

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alorinkaya · 26/10/2025 16:22

rookiemere · 26/10/2025 16:13

Why are you taking what exH says at face value ?
No one else has reported an issue with DS behaviour so it seems like the problem may not lie with him. Have you tried gently asking DS is he wants to go to his DFs and if he is happy there ?

Yes, he says he wants to go but that he would like to spend less time there.

But it was the same when he was seeing him less.

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Anditstartedagain · 26/10/2025 16:23

Did they say what he was doing and how they respond?

RandomMess · 26/10/2025 16:30

Sounds like he needs to go little and often and build up to overnights & weekends.

rookiemere · 26/10/2025 16:33

Is the time with his DF court ordered ?
Honestly it sounds like your DS has the right idea by wanting to spend less time with him. It sounds almost like the whole family on his side is ganging up on him. If it’s doable for you, I would suggest that DS cuts back his time there. If he is genuinely misbehaving then he may be able to hold it together for shorter periods of time, or if it’s them then spending less time there is a good idea also.

Tomorrowtodaywhenever · 26/10/2025 16:38

You could try a shared family contract that you, exdp and ds come up with together.
Rules he has to follow in both homes.
It seems some repairing of the situation is needed, in ds eyes he might hold resentment and be playing up on purpose. If you are at a place tou can work together it might really help him to see a united front.

StarCourt · 26/10/2025 16:39

@alorinkaya all of the comments from ex DP you’ve given as examples all scream Disney Dad to me and as if he hasn’t actually realised that he needs to parent his DS, does he not realise that his parents are not DS’s parents? He’s trying to pass the buck to everybody else and what he calls ‘prioritising’ DS sounds like he’s trying to buy him.

alorinkaya · 26/10/2025 16:48

The time isn’t court ordered. Thank you for all the advice.

A family contract is a good idea.

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thistimelastweek · 26/10/2025 17:40

stealthninjamum · 26/10/2025 16:12

Does he discipline DS?

I wouldn’t feel comfortable having a meeting with that many people ‘ganging up’ on your ds and think it could be you and your exp or maybe your ds with a counsellor first.

This with bells on.
Please don't let the wee guy feel ganged up on.
Whatever is going on here, he needs a safe space.

alorinkaya · 26/10/2025 18:12

Thank you

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alorinkaya · 26/10/2025 18:15

Just an FYI, he doesn’t want DS to be at the meeting.

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ScrewyouJonathon · 26/10/2025 18:21

He is 50% DS parent so he needs to parent him. Tough shit if he is acting up with him, thats up to him to sort not you. Honestly I would not want my DC away for 3 nights where it seems they are not really wanted.

Fedupwiththecuts · 26/10/2025 18:28

Kids aren't stupid.
It sounds like your son knows he's not the priority for ex and is playing up. He maybe was given whatever he wanted as ex just wanted to do the fun stuff but the longer time they spend together then you start needing to discipline. Which ex has now realised. Also, parenting is hard and if he's previously been spoiled then he's going to act up. He needs routine, structure and fun stuff with ex. He needs to feel important to ex. This all takes time.
If ds is able to behave for you and school then it's an ex problem who needs to figure out how to be a stable, calm and loving presence. Maybe going back to little and often contact is better. But with ds input.
He sounds like a mixed up kid who doesn't know if ex loves him so is pushing boundaries. Totally normal. Kids can't express themselves in an articulate manner so their behaviour shows their struggles.
I know you dont want to have to work with ex which I totally understand but from ds point of view, I think it may be helpful.
Ex may not want to hear what you're saying though so it's tricky.
Family contract sounds like a good idea and ex also needs to spend quality time just the two of them to build up a relationship.

redfishcat · 26/10/2025 18:34

Is your son actually doing the things his dad says, or is Disney dad expecting adult maturity from him.

Feels a bit odd, but I would ask if these interactions can be videod to see if he is being rude, or defiant, or just normal 7 year old. Perhaps one grandparent can be ready to film as soon as they see the unwanted behaviour.

Cerialkiller · 26/10/2025 18:36

Perhaps a bad idea but maybe ex could discretely film some of the behaviour so you could see it live? If the ex is disciplining ds in very different ways to what he is used to this could be very confusing and frustrating and result in lashing out as ds doesn't know the 'correct' way to behave and feels like he can't win/it's unfair. Just speculating. Ex doesn't need to be doing anything wrong, just different.

Cerialkiller · 26/10/2025 18:37

redfishcat · 26/10/2025 18:34

Is your son actually doing the things his dad says, or is Disney dad expecting adult maturity from him.

Feels a bit odd, but I would ask if these interactions can be videod to see if he is being rude, or defiant, or just normal 7 year old. Perhaps one grandparent can be ready to film as soon as they see the unwanted behaviour.

Great minds!!

Though I think a camera filming from a shelf or nearby surface. I wouldn't risk ds clocking he was being recorded.

nutbrownhare15 · 26/10/2025 18:55

What does 'speaks to him like dirt' mean? Does it mean that he shows his emotions. Because my six year old does that with me because I'm her parent. I set firm boundaries and don't take it personally. It sounds like he needs to do the same.

Katemax82 · 26/10/2025 18:59

The problem is he has to deal with your son's behaviour himself as you can't when you're not there! My son wouldn't do as I say when I'm not around.