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To think this salary is an insult?

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FlyingSolo16 · 26/10/2025 11:38

I’m a solicitor and recently interviewed for a position. Five rounds of interview, meetings with different people within the firm, etc etc.

Get to the offer stage and the “competitive salary” they’re offering was £27,500 a year. AIBU or is that an insult?

OP posts:
ZebLab · 27/10/2025 19:52

PUGMEISTER21 · 27/10/2025 18:29

I thought a new law xame in a few months back that says, a company is no longer allowed to ask you what you currentlt earn and that they have to advertise the salary range.

I hope that is the case. This cat and mouse, merry go round is ridiculous.

ZebLab · 27/10/2025 19:55

By the way, REAL salaries (in relation to the cost of living) have been driven down to a LOWER level than 2008. I sometimes wonder how people manage…..

BeccaS34 · 27/10/2025 19:58

Would you be working on a contingency basis? In the states there are attorneys who do lawsuits at no cost to the aggrieved party but they take 30-40% of any settlement.

this would be firms that do accidents where someone is badly injured with medical bills, nursing home abuse etc

what kind of firm is it?

IDontFeelLikeCooking · 27/10/2025 19:59

Sadly that salary sounds reasonable if you are talking about a high street firm in Wales. For a firm to make a profit you would need to be billing around 3.5 times your salary. It’s bloody hard going for a newly qualified solicitor to bring in fees of around £100k to a firm.

The five rounds of interviews is ridiculous but my advice would be to take the job, bill like a demon and show the firm how much you are worth to them in terms of fees. Market yourself like crazy, do as much court work as you can (if that’s an option) to get to know people locally and be nice to everyone you meet. Almost certainly within 12 months another firm will try to pick you up without interview for a higher salary.

Getting the first foot on the ladder is tough these days.

Spirallingdownwards · 27/10/2025 20:00

ProfessionalWhimsicalSkidaddler · 26/10/2025 11:41

Sounds like bullshit. Minimum wage isn’t much less. But are you freshly qualified? Is there an alternative? I think more than two and I would have told them to go fuck themselves. But I don’t have qualifications that mean I can be a solicitor and need to build bridges. But I do earn much more. I’m also old 🤣

It's less than trainees usually get paid

FlyMeSomewhere · 27/10/2025 20:01

FlyingSolo16 · 26/10/2025 11:42

It seems like we can’t anymore. Salaries are just stagnating.

You are voicing almost the exact concerns I gave right now, I was made redundant last year and I'm a health and safety practitioner of 15 years and it wasn't easy getting alternative work but I managed it after 4.5 months. I'm up in North Lincolnshire and I've been getting job ads in my email inbox for roles locally that do feel a better fit than the one I have but they want longer working hours, equally I'm seeing H&S advisor roles advertised at £26k and £30k, 20 to 22 days a year leave entitlement and it's so disheartening! It's like they are taking advantage of the fact there's so many redundant people about who desperately need an alternative income! It's insulting for work that carries liability and responsibility to pay a salary and bare minimum annual leave entitlement when as said on other posts, might as well go and work in a shop! What was the point of all the professional qualifications to have such poor salaries and leave entitlement!

Lifeofthepartay · 27/10/2025 20:01

The job market really needs regulated so that companies advertise salaries. You wouldn't go and view a house or a car advertised for sale but with no price, so why is it different for the job market? What an epic waste of time for all involved. Job applications are getting increasingly time consuming, when in the past you only needed to send your CV and maybe a cover letter, now is never ending forms and forms, then you factor the time taken for a series of interviews you are taking a considerable amount of time and effort, so sorry you went through that for no reason.

Cat1504 · 27/10/2025 20:04

BIossomtoes · 26/10/2025 12:09

Aren’t most newly recruited lecturers on zero hour contracts now?

My friend is a newly recruited lecturer….they gave her her nhs wage of band 7 ….so about 50k a year

ThisOldThang · 27/10/2025 20:08

FlyingSolo16 · 26/10/2025 11:38

I’m a solicitor and recently interviewed for a position. Five rounds of interview, meetings with different people within the firm, etc etc.

Get to the offer stage and the “competitive salary” they’re offering was £27,500 a year. AIBU or is that an insult?

Why on earth have you applied for a job without knowing the pay?

When I speak to recruiters I make it clear that I won't apply unless they tell me the rate. There's usually a reason they want to keep it secret - i.e. it's shit.

I think companies are hoping that you'll go through all the way through the interviews and then just accept their paltry offers.

Reject their shit offer. Politely tell them why you're rejecting their shit offer and end the call. They might call back and offer more. If not, who cares?

Spirallingdownwards · 27/10/2025 20:11

Keep looking NQ outside London is around £38-45k and low end London NQ is around £60-65k going up to a good number around £80k then a further jump to the £100-120k for next tier and then £150-180k for MC/top US.

stargirl27 · 27/10/2025 20:21

FlyingSolo16 · 26/10/2025 11:38

I’m a solicitor and recently interviewed for a position. Five rounds of interview, meetings with different people within the firm, etc etc.

Get to the offer stage and the “competitive salary” they’re offering was £27,500 a year. AIBU or is that an insult?

Whereabouts are you and how many years qualified are you?
I’m a solicitor too, this is even less than my NQ salary (I’m in Greater London)

MrsPinkCock · 27/10/2025 20:24

Blimey. We just offered £50k to an NQ, and we work in employment (probably a middle paid sector) as a small northern regional firm. A lawyers salary of under £30k is scandalous!

Boohoo76 · 27/10/2025 20:50

Zov · 26/10/2025 12:50

You don't say how long you've been doing it/how long it is since you qualified @FlyingSolo16 If you're just starting out, and it's outside London, £27,500 a year sounds about right.

Edited

No it’s not about right. I earned that as a NQ 20 years ago working for a medium sized provincial firm.

ThrushorSparrow · 27/10/2025 20:51

FlyingSolo16 · 26/10/2025 11:57

I said no.

im an NQ, but this role is open to all and it’s apparently their flat rate across the firm for all solicitors. There’s “generally” a 5% pay rise each year.

Wow, so you'll hit £30K in about a decade.

Boohoo76 · 27/10/2025 20:54

Lifeofthepartay · 27/10/2025 20:01

The job market really needs regulated so that companies advertise salaries. You wouldn't go and view a house or a car advertised for sale but with no price, so why is it different for the job market? What an epic waste of time for all involved. Job applications are getting increasingly time consuming, when in the past you only needed to send your CV and maybe a cover letter, now is never ending forms and forms, then you factor the time taken for a series of interviews you are taking a considerable amount of time and effort, so sorry you went through that for no reason.

Yes, we desperately need pay transparency rules. They also help protect against discrimination. That’s why many US states have pay transparency rules, to help prevent black people being paid less for the same job. IIt’s a disgrace that something wasn’t included in the Employment Rights Bill. Labour dropped the ball on this one.

Aimtodobetter · 27/10/2025 21:12

FlyingSolo16 · 26/10/2025 16:03

I’m not judging anyone that does it, it’s just a shame to me that this is the way our society functions now.

I’m not sure why you are saying that this so the way our society functions “now” - it was also the way it functioned 20 years ago and according to my Dad also 20 years before that. Even if you go back to regency times you had ways for young single people to share in boarding houses rather than have their own home.

Muffinmam · 27/10/2025 21:12

The reason that many solicitors rise to the top doesn’t have anything to do with ability but with connections. I have a background in the legal field and many friends who were/are lawyers. The lawyers that stay are often the ones with family money propping them up. Not always - but a lot.

These peoole can afford to be paid insultingly low because they have trust funds and parents who gift them large sums of money throughout the year or during major life events (moving cities, engagements, weddings, house purchase etc).

My cousin was average at her private school. She did end up going to a good university but she couldn’t get a job. So, after a very long period of unemployment her father paid for another degree at a university that isn’t competitive to get into - you just need to pay up front.

On the outside some people assumed she earned her place. But those of us who know don’t share that view. She hasn’t advanced to where she should be at her career and is likely not being paid very well. But she can keep up the illusion because of family money.

It’s not fair. It’s nowhere near a level playing field. She never had to work for her first car, or pay for living expenses, she never had to take out student loans or look for second hand copies of books. She never had to put of dental work or worry about having enough money to see a GP. She could travel and take greater risks in her career because she always had family money to fall back on.

I knew a guy who got a job as a solicitor at a really good firm straight out of university. He accepted the very low paying job because he figured he would work his way up to senior associate. He had to get a second job as he couldn’t afford to live and support his girlfriend (don’t ask). He earned more money per hour driving forklifts at his weekend job than he did working as a lawyer. Eventually he was offered full-time work driving a forklift and was later given a health and safety position after the owner realised he had a law degree. He never went back to work as a solicitor. He couldn’t afford it and he wanted to buy a house one day.

I do know people who earn quite well in law. If you set up your own firm and bill a lot of hours and hire staff - you can absolutely get ahead. You can also get ahead if you choose a very niche area of law.

But a lot of really good solicitors leave because they simply can’t afford to live on the money they pay junior solicitors and associates. I couldn’t afford to live on it. When I left the law firm I was working at I got a job that paid higher than the solicitor I was working for (and my new job wasn’t even highly paid).

Your salary would be one third of the costs of your billable hours. The remaining third or your billable hours are to pay for support staff (paralegals, secretaries, reception & law clerk) and finally the cost of rent and utilities and consumables in the office. Generally, if you consistently bill above your billables you can be eligible for bonuses or advancement to the next salary tier. That is how it works. Over time you get better at your job. You don’t have to do as much work (a lot of some work is using templates) - so you can bill the hours it realistically would have taken someone to do the work. That’s generally how peoole get ahead. They bill for every single minute, then they bill for reading case law they have read a thousand times, they draft paperwork based on work performed for a previous client. Every time they open a client file they charge to review it.

Anyway, it’s not fair.

ThisTicklishFatball · 27/10/2025 21:23

OP, I’m with you on this. I can only advise aiming higher and pursuing firms known for offering good pay.

For anyone curious, I don’t understand why people don’t use the internet to look up salaries for newly qualified solicitors. You’re already paying for it, so make it worthwhile.

Check out the RollOnFriday website to see what newly qualified solicitors in London are earning. Honestly, I’m impressed and really happy for those in these roles.

My DH is an equity partner at a major regional firm, and I also have friends and relatives in London law firms who are doing very well financially. We all come from similar farming and working-class backgrounds in a rural part of the North East. As teenagers, they aimed for high-paying careers and used the internet to research their options.

RisingSunn · 27/10/2025 21:24

Personally, with your qualifications - I would venture into Legal technology sales for a few years - starting pay is around 40k plus commission (usually double the base pay). Save some money/get on the property ladder. Then go back to the profession if that's your passion.

Or find a route to become in-house at a company.

TheWibble · 27/10/2025 21:31

Yes! Total piss take.
I don't have any further education and earn £29.5k doing a basic admin role. Admittedly I have worked there for years, but even the starting salary for my role is approximately £25k.

MinnieMountain · 27/10/2025 21:36

@ZebLab I still bump into the solicitor I did my criminal training with. He said nobody wants to do it anymore, so you get crap people.

And there’s certainly not an over-supply in residential property. People are leaving in droves.

rainingsnoring · 27/10/2025 21:42

FlyingSolo16 · 26/10/2025 11:42

It seems like we can’t anymore. Salaries are just stagnating.

That's worse than stagnating! It seems very low for a qualified solicitor.

Speckly · 27/10/2025 21:47

When you know what a solicitor’s hourly rate is and all the training you’ve done, they are very much taking the piss!!! 😡

Onmytod24 · 27/10/2025 21:50

Something is definitely going wrong when I have to pay £300 per hour to speak to a solicitor