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To not agree with the school doing this?

29 replies

Aniseed19 · 24/10/2025 19:05

So if a child has been pushed over or hit etc by another child at school. (Primary). The school are glossing over it saying they’ve been ‘caught by another child by accident’ or that they ‘fell over’ rather than be pushed over by someone else. Aibu to not agree with this?

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Arlanymor · 24/10/2025 19:07

Aniseed19 · 24/10/2025 19:05

So if a child has been pushed over or hit etc by another child at school. (Primary). The school are glossing over it saying they’ve been ‘caught by another child by accident’ or that they ‘fell over’ rather than be pushed over by someone else. Aibu to not agree with this?

If you were there, you saw it, and you are very clear that they are minimising what happened then you are well within your rights to raise this with them.

KellyJonesLeatherTrousers · 24/10/2025 19:07

Assuming you were not present at the time and this is the first time, let it go. If it happens again, its a pattern of behaviour that needs to be addressed.

Aniseed19 · 24/10/2025 19:12

Well I am a lunch time supervisor. New to the school. I only started two weeks ago. We have to make the calls home if it’s resulted in a head bump or mark anywhere on the face area. But we’re not allowed to say if they were hit or pushed etc. we have to say they were accidentally caught or fell over themselves

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NotForTheMoneyandNotForTheApplause · 24/10/2025 19:18

That seems a bit short sighted with children old enough to tell the parents what actually happened

Aniseed19 · 24/10/2025 19:20

NotForTheMoneyandNotForTheApplause · 24/10/2025 19:18

That seems a bit short sighted with children old enough to tell the parents what actually happened

That’s what I think too

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ButtonMushrooms · 24/10/2025 19:20

YANBU - that is shocking!

PicaK · 24/10/2025 19:22

Are you sure you have understood this properly? Who has told you?
You can't name names to the child who is hurt's parent but you can say what happened. But it's usually the office staff who contact parents or SLT if it's more of an incident. I'm surprised lunchtime staff have access to the MIS.
I would raise this with someone different to who told you.
And then if SLT/Head confirm that the misrepresentation is practice - whistle blow hard. There should be a whistle blowing policy on school website
Lunchtime supervisors are like gold dust you'll get another job.
Are you recording all the incidents medically? Does anything get raised on your safeguarding system? How do they track if there are multiple attacks

Arlanymor · 24/10/2025 19:23

Aniseed19 · 24/10/2025 19:12

Well I am a lunch time supervisor. New to the school. I only started two weeks ago. We have to make the calls home if it’s resulted in a head bump or mark anywhere on the face area. But we’re not allowed to say if they were hit or pushed etc. we have to say they were accidentally caught or fell over themselves

That info would have helped earlier on!

I think that's awful and completely wrong, and I would say so. I know you might rely on your job but that's patent lying isn't it. No job is worth having to be dishonest on a daily basis. Raise it with your boss. Also a bit surprised that it's part of your job to call parents, unless I have misunderstood.

Aniseed19 · 24/10/2025 19:43

Arlanymor · 24/10/2025 19:23

That info would have helped earlier on!

I think that's awful and completely wrong, and I would say so. I know you might rely on your job but that's patent lying isn't it. No job is worth having to be dishonest on a daily basis. Raise it with your boss. Also a bit surprised that it's part of your job to call parents, unless I have misunderstood.

Edited

It’s just for head bump calls, we mainly pass them on to the office staff after dinner. But I do know that we/they are not allowed to say it was a physical thing. Always accidental and never that they were hit/pushed etc.

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Aniseed19 · 24/10/2025 19:44

PicaK · 24/10/2025 19:22

Are you sure you have understood this properly? Who has told you?
You can't name names to the child who is hurt's parent but you can say what happened. But it's usually the office staff who contact parents or SLT if it's more of an incident. I'm surprised lunchtime staff have access to the MIS.
I would raise this with someone different to who told you.
And then if SLT/Head confirm that the misrepresentation is practice - whistle blow hard. There should be a whistle blowing policy on school website
Lunchtime supervisors are like gold dust you'll get another job.
Are you recording all the incidents medically? Does anything get raised on your safeguarding system? How do they track if there are multiple attacks

We do the first aid and mainly pass this on to the office staff. We write down what has happened on a note pad, but they’re said they arnt allowed to say what’s happened. They have to gloss over it/lie and say it was an accident

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cherish123 · 24/10/2025 19:48

Aniseed19 · 24/10/2025 19:05

So if a child has been pushed over or hit etc by another child at school. (Primary). The school are glossing over it saying they’ve been ‘caught by another child by accident’ or that they ‘fell over’ rather than be pushed over by someone else. Aibu to not agree with this?

This happens a lot. HTs don't want aggro from parents.

Arlanymor · 24/10/2025 19:48

Aniseed19 · 24/10/2025 19:43

It’s just for head bump calls, we mainly pass them on to the office staff after dinner. But I do know that we/they are not allowed to say it was a physical thing. Always accidental and never that they were hit/pushed etc.

Right I see. I which case I think @PicaK gave some really good advice, because that's awful practice. Sorry you're in this situation.

Bearbookagainandagain · 24/10/2025 20:33

I think our council pre-school does the same, since starting there they've been "bumping into another child" a lot, or "another child accidentally fell on them". Could be a coincidence but it never happened in their previous setting, and the wording they use sounds a bit odd.
On 1 occasion I asked my son because they said he fell and hit the seesaw, and what he told me is that he and another child were both trying to go on it and he was pushed.

On the other hand, when my child pushed another child I was told immediately - which is a good thing.

savoycabbage · 24/10/2025 20:47

I agree with you, they shouldn’t be doing that. I’m a supply teacher so I’ve been in a few hundred primary school playgrounds and I’ve never come across a school doing that. Normal practice is to say they were pushed over or whatever it is and that the situation has been handled. It shouldn’t be happening that often anyway!

Adelle79360 · 24/10/2025 20:59

This happens in my children’s school. I got a head bump form home saying dS1 had bumped his head on the coat rack. What actually happened was he was shoved by another child into the wall by the coat rack; a third child actually shouted to get the teacher because she was worried there was going to be a fight. Fortunately DS1 just walked off and went to the teacher himself. This happened on a Friday and he had a sore back all weekend. I expressed my unhappiness with the way it was reported to me and said it was a safeguarding issue, he hasn’t bumped his head at all, what if he’d needed hospital treatment?! I asked them to confirm they knew what had actually happened and the teacher said she did know, but she wouldn’t put it in writing to me. It’s awful and has made me really wary of what else goes on tbh.

NellieElephantine · 24/10/2025 21:16

This makes a lot of sense op. Schools seem to have some pupils they protect and allow to do what they want, and others who are seen as 'Meh!.. sacrificial lambs'.
Some dc can be violent and hit/push/kick but woe betide the child who defends themselves!

BoredZelda · 24/10/2025 21:19

NellieElephantine · 24/10/2025 21:16

This makes a lot of sense op. Schools seem to have some pupils they protect and allow to do what they want, and others who are seen as 'Meh!.. sacrificial lambs'.
Some dc can be violent and hit/push/kick but woe betide the child who defends themselves!

Oh FGS. No school has kids who are just allowed to be violent with no consequences. Don’t be so silly.

NellieElephantine · 24/10/2025 21:21

BoredZelda · 24/10/2025 21:19

Oh FGS. No school has kids who are just allowed to be violent with no consequences. Don’t be so silly.

No, of course you're right.... never, ever happens.....

LadyKenya · 24/10/2025 21:22

NellieElephantine · 24/10/2025 21:16

This makes a lot of sense op. Schools seem to have some pupils they protect and allow to do what they want, and others who are seen as 'Meh!.. sacrificial lambs'.
Some dc can be violent and hit/push/kick but woe betide the child who defends themselves!

You really are talking a lot of poppycock. Stop lying.

NellieElephantine · 24/10/2025 21:36

LadyKenya · 24/10/2025 21:22

You really are talking a lot of poppycock. Stop lying.

So you're saying there's never, ever violent kids at school, who assault other dc, yet remain in school?

Happiestathome · 24/10/2025 21:44

I work in a school and I would not be making calls like that. I would clarify with SLT and if this is the case, i would refuse to outright lie to parents. Yes we do not name the other child (the injured child no doubt will anyway), but giving parents a false account of what’s happened is not ok.

Han86 · 24/10/2025 21:53

My school is the same. Accident forms can only contain what the injury was and how it was treated eg. bumped head, ice pack applied, grazed left knee, wiped and plaster applied. The teacher can be told what happened and then it's on them whether they update the parent. Some things are more obvious where the parents need to be told (where another child bit them) but some things are more ambiguous. As a parent if I was told my child was pushed over I would probably be outraged, but having seen the way young children play at the moment I would accept it as rough play and actually very much for some children 50:50 in terms of who is doing the pushing and who is the one getting hurt on each occasion (and yes the teachers have been informed of the rough play and our concerns of particular children).

C152 · 24/10/2025 22:02

PicaK · 24/10/2025 19:22

Are you sure you have understood this properly? Who has told you?
You can't name names to the child who is hurt's parent but you can say what happened. But it's usually the office staff who contact parents or SLT if it's more of an incident. I'm surprised lunchtime staff have access to the MIS.
I would raise this with someone different to who told you.
And then if SLT/Head confirm that the misrepresentation is practice - whistle blow hard. There should be a whistle blowing policy on school website
Lunchtime supervisors are like gold dust you'll get another job.
Are you recording all the incidents medically? Does anything get raised on your safeguarding system? How do they track if there are multiple attacks

Sorry to derail the thread, but what if your child is being regularly, deliberately physically hurt and verbally abused by other children (in most instances, because of their disability)? Where do you go when the principle doesn't give a shit? I asked for a written safety plan for my child and the principal rang me and literally SCREAMED down the phone that she would not put anything in writing because I was a liar and the events I had complained about (going back well over a year, some of which witnessed by other staff and students, photos of black eyes and cuts to the face etc) weren't true. There isn't an other school to move my child to, so what is the best course of action?

C152 · 24/10/2025 22:05

BoredZelda · 24/10/2025 21:19

Oh FGS. No school has kids who are just allowed to be violent with no consequences. Don’t be so silly.

Unfortunately, there's nothing silly about this. It's reality.

2025VibeandThrive · 24/10/2025 22:11

100% believe you OP. My child was pushed over on purpose by another child. The school lied continuously stating it was an accident. The other child even admitted it was deliberate and the school still continued to maintain it was accidental.

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