Obsession with titles

[Naturallyalmond23]

I thought about putting this in the Royal section but I wasn't sure there would be a reasonable discussion. My concern is about the image being projected by the media focus on titles in a way that sounds silly and off the mark.

AIBU to think the focus on whether it is Charles or William that force Andrew to give up his titles and all this business about stripping titles and on and on about titles is making the monarchy look juvenile? Why isn't the focus on the behaviour of Andrew and what can be learned from this, including how the Royal Family as an institution can have better safeguards and standards for its members? How can such a serious issue be reduced to titles?

It just seems so silly that this is the major focus. There seems to be a competition about who is brave and bold to start stripping titles left, right and centre. What is this suppose to solve? It is the lack of accountability that is the real issue, title or no title. It is also the greed, probably as a result of them not being financially independent enough, that allow some of these royals to chase billionaires, losing their morality in the process.

If the Monarchy is to stay and be part funded by taxpayers, there needs to be an overhaul and it is not simply about titles.

I thought this was about books.,.,

I think what they are trying to do is distance the RF from any more fallout over Andrew's behaviour. I get the impression there is more to come out. I'm sure William is fed up of Harry and Andrew bringing constant negative headlines. I have no doubt he is determined to make radical changes when he is King.

How can you equate Andrew's behaviour to Harry doing what his father did before him - telling about his experience? This is so weird and this is part of what is making this whole thing soap opera-ish. I think this titles obsession is exposing how so very ancient the idea of a Royal Family is.

It really makes the UK sound like it is stuck in child's play.

I'm not a Royal Family watcher nor do I think much about them. They are for the most part uninspiring and they've not achieve much in life, despite the immense privilege but they are a good "tradition". That said though, maybe if Charles and William took away titles it would bring us closer to having a handful of Royals and then perhaps it will become even more evident that it is all nonsense that no grown up modern society should tolerate.

I like the pomp and circumstance but this latest news rounds about titles, titles, titles have really irritated me.

I think he told us he was giving them up so we’d forget all the shit he’s trying to climb out off

I'm not equating Andrews behaviour to Harry's. What I'm saying is both are bringing negative headlines. Nothing more, nothing 'weird'.

Harry isn't DOING anything to bring negative headlines. The British media are manufacturing negative headlines. Surely that is obvious?

@NoUserNameNeeded I agree, the titles business is a way of distracting us from the failures of this ancient practice.

I misread it and thought it was about boobs

Absolutely not obvious to me, sorry.

The problem is they’re both an institution and a family. Even if they kick him out of the institution, he’s still a member of their family. What safeguards and standards do you put into place for your family members?

It’s almost like the concept of a hereditary monarchy is inherently absurd, in the 21st century, or something.

I have absolutely no doubt he’ll change nothing - why bite the hand that feeds. Charles has done nothing of any substance. They’re all awful people.

Nor me, they aren‘t manufactured. Harry is spoiled, stupid, entitled and paranoid.

100% nowhere near Andrew level of bad but he does bring a lot of negative press and makes the Royals look bad by association.

IMO the Royals should be much more proactive in taking away titles. Andrew’s should have gone a long time ago and Harry should have lost all of his when he decided to leave the Royal Family. No doubt there will be lots of hanger on’s with titles that could probably go too.

Yes, far too many hangers on. I think William gets this. I don't think we have the appetite for a large RF anymore. Harry is becoming an irrelevance to the UK, there is no place and no need for him to do a 'life of service'.Those days are over.