To think the TV License should be scrapped

[Hedgehogbrown]

Hear me out. I love the BBC, grew up on it, and want it preserved forever. The Television License is such an outdated and inefficient way to pay for the BBC though. Most young people don't have a TV, they have computers and they don't see why they should get a TV License, regardless of the law. They don't have a TV License. Most Millennials I know don't pay their TV License. When you are poor it is another stressful expense.

How much does it cost them to try to enforce? It seems so old fashioned and wasteful. In Australia they have a state run channel but it is paid for through general taxation. If the government grew some balls and taxed all the Tech Bros who are trying to destroy the world, they can ring fence some of that taxation for the BBC. The BBC is actually good at making money, it exports it's stuff around the world. Their profits can go to the Treasury. No more paying for people to go round in vans trying to catch people out for not having a license like it's the 1970s.

I think it would be such a vote winner for people to not have to pay this.

With Netflix, Now TV etc I can pause them for a month if I'm not going to watch them

I'd be in favour of paying for the BBC if I could opt in and out like that. Their model is too old fashioned

Ok if you have seen selected BBC made programmes you must have had the bad luck to watch the rubbish ones.
There's some good stuff too. It's a mixture. Some stuff is great.

In your opinion.

They used to detect them in the 60s, when it was the old vhf 405 line tellys, do you remember them, we had a little round b and w one that sat on the sideboard. Once the 625 line ones came out, it was much more difficult. They wouldn't detect them in the 90s, did they even have vans then.

Was that the pensions breach or has there been another one, loads of people had data stolen in the Capital pensions one, including myself

Same. We’re paying to watch a series (Slow Horses) then we’ll stop. Seems a good way to do it.

Should be subscription.

I havent had a TV license for 15 years. I dont watch live TV and the only thing I miss is the occasional football match. Theres a few things I would watch on itv but im not paying the BBC for that pleasure, so I watch it on streaming instead. There's absolutely nothing I want to watch on BBC, nor do I listen to any of their radio services or use their website.

Horrible Histories is great and worth the licence fee alone.
Call the Midwife is reasonably a nice programme.
My mum likes that crime drama set in Cornwall (?) and the couple of episodes I have seen are fairly watchable.
There's probably more that I can't think of on the top of my head.
You really can't say that all BBC programmes are awful.

Again that's just your opinion though you clearly think it's worth the licence fee that's fine
People are allowed to disagree.

I never said they couldn't 😂
However I do think the "I hate the BBC but I haven't actually watched any BBC programmes for 20 years" people's opinion isn't really that valid.

I agree at @x2boysthose shows don’t appeal.

I can honestly say nothing much interests me on the BBC I stayed with my Dad for a few weeks recently who has a licence and doesn't subscribe to Netflix etc and i.didnt find anything interesting
I'm glad you enjoy the BBC but it wouldn't do for us all to like the same things.

I don't see what makes it different to any other content provider such as Netflix, Disney or Crunchyroll. It should be a subscription service for those who want to watch it, and those who do not should not be harassed.

Well yes.
So if you don't want the BBC channels or want to watch any "live" programmes then don't get a licence.
Simple.

I only mentioned 3 programmes 😂😂
There's plenty more.

Yep and you can enjoy them. You don’t need to sell stuff in.

It should have a login like Netflix etc rather than this license which requires vans driving past your house or people knocking on your door to check your not using g it. BBC is a good service provider but it needs to update its subscription method

Yep.
There's also a lot of BBC crap I simply don't enjoy or hate with a passion.
I just don't watch those.
Same with my Netflix and Disney+ subscriptions.

That you enjoy ,that's great I'm glad you think the licence fee is worthwhile for you
Why do you think we should all think the same ?

@EasternStandard what does "sell stuff in" mean?

Great you do that. We don’t all have to enjoy the BBC. We watch a series at a time and they’re streamed, which we pay for generally or opt in.

That is a very BBC attitude. We silly plebs don’t know what is good for us.

I'll never forget the TV Licence Inspector who bullied my 14 year old autistic son to tears. He was the only one home at the time - InSET day at his school, siblings at work and I had just popped to the shops. The guy shouldn't have been talking to him at all. I made a complaint and got fobbed off until I gave up. We had a licence, btw, but had just moved house. I haven't paid for one since. I'm not subsidising an organisation that employs people who do this and make excuses for them. We lost access to iplayer but so what?

My adult children have televisions as do some, but not all of my friend. Do I know exactly what is on the BBC as I am constantly hearing them complain about dumbing down the programmes

And nobody 'needs' the BBC.