Motability cars - should they be UK made?

[Pandersmum]

Motability cars are currently in the news with suggestions VAT will be added. I realise they are a lifetime to some and a perk to others. They are a huge annual cost to the tax payer.

AIBU to think that all motability car choice should be limited to those manufactured in the UK? This would support British manufacturing worker jobs and increase UK business tax revenue whilst still providing cars for those who need them?

The OP is bowing out because this thread failed to go the right way.

Still, they can take heart that someone else (it could be them if they namechange) will be along in a few days to start a similar (but not exact) thread to this to try and steer it it a conclusion where the majority are ready to go out dragging the disabled into the chambers themselves.

How many people will claim they can't understand this poster because it's in German ?

I'm well aware of how it works.
I'm also aware of people who claim and shouldn't.
Mental health and the likes of fibromyalgia are easily exaggerated and often unprovable. It's an easy option to extra money.

Nobody who knows the PIP process can claim anything about it is easy!

I wonder if the people who believe it’s easy to claim PIP have made successful claims themselves?

Mental health and the likes of fibromyalgia are easily exaggerated and often unprovable.

Not so easily exaggerated you could do it though. And I hope you only ever treat your own health problems. I'd hate to think of you being treated by a doctor who could be conned by so many people obviously faking it.

I suppose you could get medical treatment outside the UK though.

Or are you quite happy to say in one face that you would see a doctor about your own health and out of the other face at the same time say doctors are so stupid they can be fooled by frauds ?

I bet you never answer.

Some bloke down the pub told them.

Funnily enough, if the same bloke told them the seats had just been painted, they'd have to touch them to check.

Remember 50% of the population are below average intelligence. And we know how to find them.

Do you think mental health professionals are thick then?
Nobody is going to be getting PIP for mild anxiety
And clearly you don't know how it works because you seem to think mobility cars can't be used as the family car.

You didn't answer the question about how this surveillance would work? Where would the money come from to pay for it? Somehow, I doubt it would save much if any money at all.

Mobility cars are for the use of the disabled person and not the use of family members as far as I'm aware.
For example if a named driver needs to fetch a prescription for a disabled child that's fine to use the mobility car. If they need to fetch a prescription for themselves then the mobility car shouldn't be used. Maybe its different for a child but I know an adult with a mobility car and their named driver isn't allowed to use the car for their personal use, commuting to work, socialising etc - they have a second car for that

As far as you are aware is incorrect. Motability cars awarded for children are ordinarily deemed as the family car and normal family car usage can apply.

Your probably right - tightening the criteria would help but the government tried that and many people shouted 'unfair' so they backed down (again).
You can't really believe that all PIP claimants are genuine - this country has many people who will do a little as possible for as much as possible hence UC conditionality being introduced.

I dont think the proposals included a change to the high rate mobility component so this wouldnt have affected the people eligible for cars. They would all have remained eligible. It was around the daily living points.

You are wrong it is to benefit the disabled child / adult that doesn't mean the child/ adult has to be in the car and the named driver can use it to go to work because that benefits the disabled child/ adult keeping a roof over their heads etc .
Don't just make up your own rules and decide you are right.

I can only speak for DLA rather than PIP because my son is too young for PIP yet but it wasn't an easy process to go through and to get high rate care and high rate mobility which is what my son gets, you need mounds of evidence from medical professionals.

No, the car has to be used for the benefit of the disabled person but if you are the parent, are ill, it is clearly to the disabled child's benefit that you get the prescription and get better. So it is allowed.

You can also use the car to go to work each day too, as having an income to support the disabled child is for their benefit.

You can drive to football practice because your health and well being benefit the disabled person. Etc.

People really need to acquaint themselves with the facts.

So can the parents of a disabled child use the car without the child for things that don't benefit the child.
Motobility and the DVLA seem to disagree about usage to.
The named driver in my example isn't allowed to use the car for herself because the exemptions apply to the disabled person not her as told to her by DVLA

What things fo you think parent, s of disabled children use the car for that doesn't directly benefit the child ?

Well.maybe your example needs ,to speak to motability than.

Which DVLA exemptions do you mean?

Why don't you read the rules rather than relying on hearsay from your one example and deciding you are right 🤔

The motability car is our only car, it is deemed as the family car and is used for all of our journeys. With or without our son.

I can't think of anything that we'd use the car for that wouldn't also directly or indirectly benefit him.

But it does say it has to be for the benefit of the disabled person.
How is a named driver visiting her friends in the car benefiting the disabled person.
How is going clothes shopping for herself benefiting the disabled person.
The tax exemptions are meant to benefit a disabled person not be a perk for a named driver

Have you reported those people who you believe shouldn't be claiming?

Right so you want parents of disabled children to unnecessarily spend time and money on public transport ,to get essentials like clothes or have an occasional coffee with friends ,?
I could do that but I couldn't guarantee I would be back in time for school transport
I that wouldn't benefit my son would it
You may not like it but mobility expect you to use the car as a family car, they don't expect you to spend hours on unreliable public transport.