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Is anyone else planning to leave the UK?

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AuntieMeemz · 17/10/2025 09:59

Everything we gain, earn or get is taxed and we are not seeing the benfit we would expect from it. We have a government that is not representing all of us.
I have always taken a keen interest in current affairs, in the UK and abroad so it's not a rash decision (and i don't want to trigger a debate about my reasons for leaving). I have learned when it is time to walk away.
Even before all this, we had decided to leave the UK, but we are speeding up plans. Is anyone else doing the same?
The grass will not be greener on the other side (have lived in 3 other countries when i was younger). We will be working on line for our last couple of years before retirement.
'We' means DH, DD (18 )and DS (21). DH totally onboard. DD and DS not, so we can't just leave them.

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Papyrophile · 19/10/2025 17:29

I don't think we've hoarded wealth. Without an employer, we have had to fund the company's costs and the payroll, and it's only after those costs are met that we have anything to take out. Some years it goes well, and in other years (like 2025) we shall pay our staff and take nothing. This year, DH is working for not much, and at 70 can you blame him for wanting a way out? But he doesn't want to walk away until he's certain that none of the staff are left unemployed.

RiderGirl · 19/10/2025 17:36

We are. DH received his German passport in the post yesterday so has now got dual citizenship, we are planning to go to France once DD has left home/gone to uni. We're open to other countries but France stands out currently.

KatyaKanani · 19/10/2025 17:57

RiderGirl · 19/10/2025 17:36

We are. DH received his German passport in the post yesterday so has now got dual citizenship, we are planning to go to France once DD has left home/gone to uni. We're open to other countries but France stands out currently.

In spite of all the current significant economic and political problems? You must have very good jobs.

Papyrophile · 19/10/2025 18:09

Plenty people could work overseas if they were prepared to take the risk.

Papyrophile · 19/10/2025 18:16

Outside of the main cities, and the Midi, most of France is a fab place to live, but you do need to speak a bit of French. Good luck wandering into a bar in anything other than a tourist destination in France.

Charlotte120221 · 19/10/2025 18:29

@AuntieMeemz Im not sure it’s as simple as thinking “ooh I’d like to live in Japan” and moving there?

Alien registration, local taxes, local laws. Just massive barriers. You can’t just rock up with a tourist visa and work online for a UK company…

Onegingerhead · 19/10/2025 18:58

As someone who moved to the UK at 20, I’d say you really need to be able to speak the local language at a decent level — otherwise, life will be… well, pretty crap. You should aim for absolute fluency, and honestly, that’s much harder if you move after 30.
Also, nationalism seems to be on the rise in almost every country, which is something to be aware of.
For example, if you wanted to move to Germany, you’d need to speak German fluently, pass as a local, have an EU passport, and a decent amount of cash, only then would the move make sense. Otherwise, staying put is probably wiser

KatyaKanani · 19/10/2025 18:59

Charlotte120221 · 19/10/2025 18:29

@AuntieMeemz Im not sure it’s as simple as thinking “ooh I’d like to live in Japan” and moving there?

Alien registration, local taxes, local laws. Just massive barriers. You can’t just rock up with a tourist visa and work online for a UK company…

Yes, I do think some people are being a little naive, perhaps.

XelaM · 19/10/2025 19:28

I have dual citizenship British/EU so can move anywhere in Europe. Much harder for those who don't have EU citizenship.

RiderGirl · 19/10/2025 19:30

KatyaKanani · 19/10/2025 17:57

In spite of all the current significant economic and political problems? You must have very good jobs.

Don't they have those problems everywhere though? We're keen to go, spending the rest of my life in a crappy little terraced house in a crappy area in the south west where it pisses with rain most of the year isn't appealing. We can speak pretty good french, my dad lives there already, in a nice house in a nice area that I will eventually inherit.

KatyaKanani · 19/10/2025 19:32

RiderGirl · 19/10/2025 19:30

Don't they have those problems everywhere though? We're keen to go, spending the rest of my life in a crappy little terraced house in a crappy area in the south west where it pisses with rain most of the year isn't appealing. We can speak pretty good french, my dad lives there already, in a nice house in a nice area that I will eventually inherit.

Ok. Just so happens that I was reading about the economic problems, and the resignation of the last premier, but if your life is so crappy and shit here, then bon voyage.

NapoleonsToe · 19/10/2025 19:47

EmeraldRoulette · 17/10/2025 23:28

Lost track of which poster said healthcare has improved in the last 20 years

I think it's got worse. I appreciate it depends what you mean by healthcare. So for example, if you mean scanning technology has improved, yes it probably has.

But GP services and approaches to the patient generally have not improved. That's been my experience and both my parents. Though dad's been gone awhile now. Speaking of which, hospice services and availability also declined.

actually, I don't really know anyone who would think that those services have improved in 20 years.

The NHS is a disgrace. And I say that as someone who worked in it for decades. It has longer waits and worse outcomes than so many other countries. I'm currently in hospital in the EU and the difference is stark.

Passwordsaremynemesis · 20/10/2025 11:19

acorncrush · 19/10/2025 17:15

What part of Australia did you move to? Would you recommend for young families?

We moved to Perth in 2013. We chose it because of the Mediterranean climate and the fact that houses then were a lot cheaper than on the east coast. House prices here are still cheaper but have gone up massively since Covid, due to huge housing shortages. But if you can get jobs here and sponsorship, and have the money to make the move, I highly recommend it. It’s a wonderful place to bring up a family, wages are high and the weather and outdoor lifestyle is fabulous. It’s clean, beautiful and pretty laid back, and there are lots of opportunities if you are willing to work hard most people do pretty well. We can afford a standard of living that we would never have achieved in the UK. It’s not an easy move, especially if you have a large close family, flights are expensive and bloody long. But for us it was the right move, I just wish I’d moved sooner!

1one · 20/10/2025 17:53

France is the new sick man of Europe according to a BBC report with even the Italians laughing at their political chaos, lets block everything riots and spiralling debt. I'd give France a swerve for now.

APTPT · 20/10/2025 18:44

Nowhere in Europe appeals. I lie - Portugal is absolutely beautiful and it appeals so much it hurts. Budapest, maybe, if I could get a foothold in the language, but it defeated me!

AuntieMeemz · 20/10/2025 21:40

APTPT · 18/10/2025 05:24

Yes, we are leaving for good in three weeks. Just waiting for the dog to have final part of her vet treatment.

The problems are NOT the same everywhere. That's pure copium.

Glad its not just me! I work in Health care and its like noone wants ro see what is going on.Have spent over a year researching where tongo. The world around me has changed and not for the better, but its like nobody sees it

Taxes are not always higher in other countries.

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AuntieMeemz · 20/10/2025 21:40

Glad its not just me! I work in Health care and its like noone wants ro see what is going on.Have spent over a year researching where tongo. The world around me has changed and not for the better, but its like nobody sees it

Taxes are not always higher in other countries.

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Leadonmacduffs · 21/10/2025 00:07

Bye then. Enjoy the adventure.
once you work out you can immigrate to.

turkeyboots · 21/10/2025 15:23

Here's a nice graph.

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FairKoala · 27/11/2025 23:24

NotrialNodeal · 17/10/2025 10:34

None, thanks to brexit your options are extremely limited if not none existent.

Belize as a Brit you can move to

NapoleonsToe · 28/11/2025 07:55

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NapoleonsToe · 28/11/2025 08:03

I have no idea how I managed to post this on the wrong thread Grin

DreamingOfLivingInAChateau · 28/11/2025 10:53

I'd quite happily leave, and my mum and I have the ability to get "residency" such as it is - in france due to presvious work/family etc. I just havent finished the qualifications that i need to be able to transition from doing my job here - to being able to do it in france. Once thats done - we are gone.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 28/11/2025 11:04

My partner did say yesterday that we could very easily leave as there are locations worldwide he could transfer to but I’d be damned if this shower of cunts will force our hand and uproot the kids when they are settled in school. I shall just continue to vent online until 2029 😎

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 28/11/2025 11:10

AuntieMeemz · 20/10/2025 21:40

Glad its not just me! I work in Health care and its like noone wants ro see what is going on.Have spent over a year researching where tongo. The world around me has changed and not for the better, but its like nobody sees it

Taxes are not always higher in other countries.

The education system is the same. If the every day person could see what is happening inside many schools they would wonder what in the world is going on. It was pretty routine for my child in year 3 to be evacuated into the playground as tables were being upended in the classroom and missiles thrown. My older child in secondary recounts the most unbelievable stories most days. There is most definitely an unravelling of society going on but I’m sure it’s happening across the West so unless the plan is to move to Japan or Dubai I’m not sure France will be the solution.

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