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my university is allowing men to enter women's bathrooms changing rooms etc!

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whyyyyyisitmonddayy · 16/10/2025 13:26

I'm a student at this uni. I love it here, but it is a left leaning uni (as am I!)
I should add, I'm quite slight and petite and am generally very nervous of men.
Today, I got this email saying that they're letting people choose bathrooms or changing rooms based on "how they feel" and stated that whichever bathroom etc you want to use, you can enter in the name of inclusivity!
I'm very open to gender identity etc. I'm bi, and I have friends of all gender identities. I have trans friends, those who don't conform to binaries, etc, and I respect them greatly. and I am completely okay with sharing the majority of bathrooms at the uni, as that doesn't both me. I personally don't understand how you can feel like something you are scientifically not, but you only live once so you might as well be your true self.
but now I'm left wondering about gym changing rooms at the uni, as I'm not as okay with that. one does not have stalls and neither do the showers, so I'm expected to be be vulnerable in front of those who have genitalia which I don't want to see or be in bare in front of.
this also opens up the chances that a guy could walk into women's changing rooms, watch, and cannot be challenged
it also raises question of faith. it is not excluding women who cannot be naked in front of anyone but women (same goes for men). "just use the stalls, disabled loo etc" doesn't cut it as their isn't enough of those to go round and then those who actually need disabled toilets can't use them.
I also want there to be a couple of women only bathrooms too, because it doesn't seem fair I'm being told men will be entering women's bathrooms and the uni supports this, but religious / personal wishes to be in women only spaces is being walked over.
this is less about trans women entering these spaces, and more about harmful men entering them (although I don't want to see male gentalia in women's changing rooms full stop)
I can't speak out or ask as I will be ostracised and it's not worth my future.

OP posts:
OverTheWater28 · 17/10/2025 12:39

fireandlightening · 16/10/2025 21:30

I find it very hard to believe that this is real. I am an academic and University administration does not send out emails using language such as the one the OP quotes (eg: people can use bathrooms based on "how they feel"). Emails from Vice Chancellors are carefully worded and reviewed, likely by legal staff on contested issues such as this. I am not surprised the OP is refusing to screenshot the message.

Yeah, OP is being tellingly cagey about the finer points…

Brefugee · 17/10/2025 12:39

the "legal implication" is only unclear if you have a reading age of 7. And even then i expect a 7 year old to understand: if you have, or ever had, a penis you go in the men's. If you have, or ever had, a vulva/vagina, you go in the women's

ETA: that was a reply to @Yes54

Additionally: if they are introducing unisex, i expect them to comply with all laws, and not just relabel the current ones with "unisex with urinals" or "unisex without urinals"

Balloonhearts · 17/10/2025 12:48

Agix · 16/10/2025 13:31

If harmful men wanted to come and peep on you or attack you, they don't have to pretend to be a woman / trans woman and enter changing rooms or showers to do it.

And they won't start either, because that will make them way more visible and likely to get caught. They'll keep doing as they're doing now, lurking in the shadows to get you down a dark alley.

Except they already are and already have. We've already seen several incidents of 'transwomen' assaulting girls and women in public toilets.

Michelle Martinez (previously Miguel) who raped a 10 year old girl in a bathroom? Or Lexi-Rose Crawford who has been jailed for the SECOND conviction of child sex abuse? Or Katie Dolakowki who sexually assaulted a 10 year old girl in a toilet at Morrisons? ‘She’ also previously tried to film a 12 year old girl in the toilet at Asda.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 17/10/2025 12:49

Agix · 16/10/2025 13:31

If harmful men wanted to come and peep on you or attack you, they don't have to pretend to be a woman / trans woman and enter changing rooms or showers to do it.

And they won't start either, because that will make them way more visible and likely to get caught. They'll keep doing as they're doing now, lurking in the shadows to get you down a dark alley.

They don't have to, but they don't not have to either.

Do you really think the type of bloke (of any gender identity) who gets off on intimidating or assaulting women, maybe following her off the street hoping to get her somewhere secluded, is somehow going to stop at a door even know he knows no one will challenge him for entering? Do you think he respects trans women too much to pretend to be one?

Or the type of bloke (of any gender identity) who gets off on voyeurism? Is he going to say "No, this room with women changing or peeing is not for me no matter how much I want to be in thete because even though no one else will say anything to me, I know I'm not a trans woman so it's just not right". Really?

FlirtsWithRhinos · 17/10/2025 12:58

@Agix

Out of interest, how would a man "pretend" to be a trans woman? What would he be doing differently to show that he is a woman rather than a man?

spannasaurus · 17/10/2025 12:59

How much effort do people think its takes for a man to pretend to be trans in order to enter female single sex spaces?

He just needs to say I'm a woman and that's it. He wouldn't even need to shave his beard because women have beards too

my university is allowing men to enter women's bathrooms changing rooms etc!
Talkinpeace · 17/10/2025 13:03

The ruling and the law are absolutely clear.

It is scary how much deliberate law breaking is going on.

Remembertheplan · 17/10/2025 13:24

Complain and or protest

Inertia · 17/10/2025 13:42

Agix · 16/10/2025 13:31

If harmful men wanted to come and peep on you or attack you, they don't have to pretend to be a woman / trans woman and enter changing rooms or showers to do it.

And they won't start either, because that will make them way more visible and likely to get caught. They'll keep doing as they're doing now, lurking in the shadows to get you down a dark alley.

How does one objectively tell the difference between a man pretending to be a woman because he identifies as trans, and a man pretending to be a woman because he intends to harm women?

They are all male.

Women are constantly told to avoid placing themselves in risky situations, yet men merely need to pretend to feel like women to have access to women and girls at their most vulnerable.

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