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Small landlords selling off isn't a great news after all

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Goingindrain · 15/10/2025 16:45

My landlord is a small landlord, just owns his house and the one where we live. He is a nice man and charges us below the market rate rent.
He is fed up of all the anti landlord rules and has decided to sell. It seems he had an offer from FTB and then a big corporation put in an offer 10k over and he's selling it off to them via the agents.
I am worried about the rent going up and it's not a great news for tenants.

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Bluegrassdfly · 27/10/2025 15:54

taxguru · 24/10/2025 14:33

It's because it's being funded by other "normal" people further down the chain, many of whom will never be able to buy their own homes because house prices have risen far faster than wage inflation for a few decades.

Do you think it’s all of the landlords that are stopping you buying though? Who else provides students with somewhere to rent?

KeepPumping · 27/10/2025 15:58

Bluegrassdfly · 27/10/2025 15:54

Do you think it’s all of the landlords that are stopping you buying though? Who else provides students with somewhere to rent?

A lot of Uni"s run their own accommodation now.

Bluegrassdfly · 27/10/2025 16:00

KeepPumping · 27/10/2025 15:58

A lot of Uni"s run their own accommodation now.

Our local uni can just about supply 1st years with accommodation. After that it’s BTL landlords. And it’s desperate. Students are desperate. Rents are stratospheric. All because the Scottish government decided to introduce rent controls so loads of BTL landlords left the market. Scotland proving to everyone that rent controls are still a disaster.

ElectricLegs · 27/10/2025 19:02

hellowhaaat3632 · 27/10/2025 15:48

Yes, the estate agents actively encourage this, even when you're happy with your tenant and don't want to evict them. Sometimes it's necessary if eg you're operating at a loss.

Better described as paying a small part of your mortgage for the asset you will eventually own? Unless you are a landlord rather than just a BTL landlord.

hellowhaaat3632 · 28/10/2025 09:05

ElectricLegs · 27/10/2025 19:02

Better described as paying a small part of your mortgage for the asset you will eventually own? Unless you are a landlord rather than just a BTL landlord.

The asset which you take all the risk and maintenance for and no guarantee it'll sell for a higher price. In this market, it is very uncertain. Potential for loosing tens of £1,000's. Even more. Something you would do, do you think? Can you afford it? But you expect others to do it in order to provide housing for others?

Araminta1003 · 28/10/2025 10:12

If I had 500k cash to invest no way would I put it in property. Mix of cash bonds and bonds, lower risk and higher risk equity instead. Far less work, more certainty, better returns. That is partly why small time landlords are selling up as well. It’s unpaid extra work taxed and regulated through the roof. Same picture with small house builders. The result is more pricy housing not less. The costs of overtaxation and overregulation always get passed on to the end consumer.
The State cannot afford a massive social housing build project so instead they decide to come up with screw people policies that make the situation worse. You can see these anomalies across various sectors now. The demographics have changed (far more smaller households, ageing population) and the politicians keep harping back to old tricks and the playbook that doesn’t work. Nobody is coming up with any proper solutions nor telling the truth.

KeepPumping · 28/10/2025 12:46

Araminta1003 · 28/10/2025 10:12

If I had 500k cash to invest no way would I put it in property. Mix of cash bonds and bonds, lower risk and higher risk equity instead. Far less work, more certainty, better returns. That is partly why small time landlords are selling up as well. It’s unpaid extra work taxed and regulated through the roof. Same picture with small house builders. The result is more pricy housing not less. The costs of overtaxation and overregulation always get passed on to the end consumer.
The State cannot afford a massive social housing build project so instead they decide to come up with screw people policies that make the situation worse. You can see these anomalies across various sectors now. The demographics have changed (far more smaller households, ageing population) and the politicians keep harping back to old tricks and the playbook that doesn’t work. Nobody is coming up with any proper solutions nor telling the truth.

"If I had 500k cash to invest no way would I put it in property"

Very very good advice but most people borrowed money to get into BTL, they didn"t have 500k, that is why BTL took off, it was more nearly free debt that people could access, of course large numbers of people lapped it up thinking any property investment was a one way bet.

KeepPumping · 28/10/2025 12:49

Bluegrassdfly · 27/10/2025 16:00

Our local uni can just about supply 1st years with accommodation. After that it’s BTL landlords. And it’s desperate. Students are desperate. Rents are stratospheric. All because the Scottish government decided to introduce rent controls so loads of BTL landlords left the market. Scotland proving to everyone that rent controls are still a disaster.

I suspect that going forward there will be far less people going to "Uni", the future might be more about practical job training and living with parents for longer?

taxguru · 28/10/2025 15:41

KeepPumping · 28/10/2025 12:49

I suspect that going forward there will be far less people going to "Uni", the future might be more about practical job training and living with parents for longer?

Nice in theory, but in a lot of places, especially the regions, there aren't enough jobs close to the family home, and usually very few decent apprentice schemes.

Part of going to Uni is that it's a stepping stone to moving permanently away from the family home area which many have to do to get a decent job.

Those who live in the big cities won't understand just how bad the job market and career prospects are out in the smaller cities and towns in the regions.

Tontostitis · 28/10/2025 15:45

Irenesortof · 15/10/2025 17:18

DH and I were also good landlords until this year. Just one small house which we kept in good repair and within reason let the tenants live in it however they wanted. But we sold it this year when our long term tenants gave notice, because everything is getting so complicated, difficult and expensive to manage.
I'd be all for discouraging private landlords if the government first put in place proper social housing, but they haven't even begun to do this.

Same we buy derelict return them to family homes and rent out. We have a waiting list of tenants as ours stay years and we keep rents reasonable. We have been slowly selling.

Fizbosshoes · 28/10/2025 18:11

Bluegrassdfly · 27/10/2025 16:00

Our local uni can just about supply 1st years with accommodation. After that it’s BTL landlords. And it’s desperate. Students are desperate. Rents are stratospheric. All because the Scottish government decided to introduce rent controls so loads of BTL landlords left the market. Scotland proving to everyone that rent controls are still a disaster.

DD is at uni and had halls the first year, now in a private house. There wasnt even enough uni halls or houses for first years, some were in private student accomodation.

KeepPumping · 28/10/2025 19:04

taxguru · 28/10/2025 15:41

Nice in theory, but in a lot of places, especially the regions, there aren't enough jobs close to the family home, and usually very few decent apprentice schemes.

Part of going to Uni is that it's a stepping stone to moving permanently away from the family home area which many have to do to get a decent job.

Those who live in the big cities won't understand just how bad the job market and career prospects are out in the smaller cities and towns in the regions.

It is reality, has been for some time, parents of 20 somethings are most likely still working themselves, they live where jobs are available, very very few parts of the UK don`t have some form of local or commutable employment.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2j8v8wvrko

Two generations of women sit on a sofa smiling and holding hands with a cabinet and picture in the background.

More people in late 20s still living with parents

The rising cost of buying or renting home has led more to remain in the family home, a think-tank says.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2j8v8wvrko

KeepPumping · 28/10/2025 19:09

Tontostitis · 28/10/2025 15:45

Same we buy derelict return them to family homes and rent out. We have a waiting list of tenants as ours stay years and we keep rents reasonable. We have been slowly selling.

Where are the tenants on the waiting list living while they wait?

KeepPumping · 28/10/2025 19:12

Fizbosshoes · 28/10/2025 18:11

DD is at uni and had halls the first year, now in a private house. There wasnt even enough uni halls or houses for first years, some were in private student accomodation.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/university-students-ucas-applications-education-b2684381.html

"the report warned that overall demand for higher education could fall by around 20 per cent from 2030 to 2040 as a result of the decline in the number of young people in the population by that time."

I think it could be more than 20%.

Has Britain finally fallen out of love with university?

As a former Tory minister hits back at critics who say degrees are no longer worth the paper they’re printed on and student numbers fall flat, Helen Coffey looks at whether going to uni has become less rite of passage and more passé for the next genera...

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/university-students-ucas-applications-education-b2684381.html

Araminta1003 · 30/10/2025 10:32

Better Reeves rents it out though and pays 45 per cent income tax on rental income plus a family gets a home. Licence to rent out a house sounds like a Dulwich nimby policy, they also have traffic measures. It’s that kind of place.

TeenagersAngst · 30/10/2025 13:28

@Araminta1003 licensing happens across the country not just in Dulwich.

Decent landlords get absolutely shafted for not having licenses but when a politician does it, it's an 'honest mistake'.

TeenagersAngst · 30/10/2025 13:31

I hope she is fined accordingly and her tenant instigates a rent repayment request as is their right.

Noodledog · 30/10/2025 13:42

JHound · 27/10/2025 15:31

There have been a number of stories (some high profile) of landlord serving notice on tenants simply to relist the property at a much higher rent.

Rushanara Ali?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 30/10/2025 14:01

Except it turns out it wasn't an honest mistake, @TeenagersAngst ... tthis is copied from another thread and makes it very clear that Rachel was well aware of the issue:

x.com/Basil_TGMD/status/1983849226795987452/photo/1

Edited to add missed link

TeenagersAngst · 30/10/2025 15:26

What a surprise @Puzzledandpissedoff - but I'm sure there'll be a reason why it's really not a problem.

Noodledog · 30/10/2025 15:40

TeenagersAngst · 30/10/2025 15:26

What a surprise @Puzzledandpissedoff - but I'm sure there'll be a reason why it's really not a problem.

Obviously it's not a problem because RR is left wing, which mean she is a Good Person and her actual actions are therefore irrelevant. Anyway, who could criticise a senior member of government for failing to follow rules she had voted for when Boris ate cake during lockdown?

TeenagersAngst · 30/10/2025 15:51

He even had the gall to vote in a license scheme as a councillor (a money making scam for councils) and then not license his own properties.

You actually could not make this shit up.