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Alittlebitofwhat · 13/10/2025 09:51

…especially those where immunity is short lived or the virus makes you more susceptible to other viruses and infections? I recently saw an article for example on how children were twice as likely to get long covid from reinfection. I understand exposure to certain bacteria is helpful (hygiene hypothesis), but can’t find anything sensible on viruses. Is it an old wives tale, is it confusion over hygiene hypothesis or is someone able to point me to some research? TIA.

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thecatfromneptune · 13/10/2025 10:10

Immunity from viruses depends on the virus, including how it’s shaped, how it infects us, how often it mutates, and so on.

Our immune system cells recognise viruses in lots of ways, for example by the proteins on their coats, or the chemicals they produce.

For a large, stable virus like measles, with a relatively consistent protein capsule, it can only withstand a certain degree of mutation before it collapses. So the virus tends to stay looking very much the same over time, and our immune systems can recognise and respond to measles virus coat proteins a long time after either infection or vaccination.

Other viruses like norovirus are smaller and though they infect our cells easily, our immune system response to them is partly affected by our own genotype, for example our blood type.

Yet more different viruses like flu or Covid are small, rapidly mutating viruses which mutate often and often change the protein chain arrangements on their coats or surfaces, and thus can evade our existing antibodies and immune system cells more easily. This is why some viruses or vaccinations don’t give lasting immunity whereas others (like measles) do.

We have a variety of immune system cells in our bodies, including different types of white blood cells, T-cells, B-cells and so on. Different combinations of these are active against different viruses. Some of our immune cells literally “eat” or engulf particular viruses. Others produce chemicals that burst a virus’s coat or capsid. Some kill viruses in yet other ways. Some viruses are able to “hide” from the immune cells in particular nerves or organs that protect them better from being “seen” by our immune cells.

There are lots of ways that our immune systems and different viruses interact — so much so that it is difficult to give any one overall picture of how it works; and we are discovering more all the time.

thecatfromneptune · 13/10/2025 10:35

This is a good site that explains some basic immunology:

https://www.immunology.org/public-information/bitesized-immunology/pathogens-disease/immune-responses-viruses

In relation to your question, catching some viruses gives us longer periods of immunity than others, but the viruses can also interfere with our immune system in other ways. Catching natural measles, for example, gives up to lifelong immunity to measles; but the virus also damages the immune system overall for some time afterwards: it gives immunity to measles but damages the immune memory of other viruses. Some viruses produce shorter periods of immunity; for example colds and flu viruses; but may stimulate immune production more generally. It’s very varied. The more coronaviruses you catch, the more your likely partial immunity to coronavirus increases generally — or, at least, you are less likely to suffer a major reaction to a new kind of coronavirus; but this isn’t quite the same as stimulating your immune system overall (and indeed repeated infection with some viruses can make your immune cells overall less efficient). With rotavirus, however, repeated infections in childhood mean adults are largely immune to most rotavirus strains.

So it isn’t as simple as saying catching lots of viruses makes us have better immunity more generally. Some viruses give you long term immunity; some don’t. Some stimulate an overall immune response; some don’t (or, even do the reverse). Some repeated infections help you; some don’t. It’s very variable! But then there are lots of different kinds of viruses, all shaped differently with different mechanisms of infection.

Immune responses to viruses | British Society for Immunology

https://www.immunology.org/public-information/bitesized-immunology/pathogens-disease/immune-responses-viruses

Alittlebitofwhat · 13/10/2025 10:47

Thank you very much. I will have a read.

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