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My dad blames himself for my teen years, but it’s not his fault

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Evsn · 13/10/2025 01:30

Hi everyone, I’m mostly looking for some advice on how to handle this as it plays on my mind a lot. I will start with background as I think it’s key here. I’m going to be talking about emotional abuse, alcoholism, suicide and mental health issues so TW.

From 0-12 my childhood was pretty normal and average. My dad was always a hardworking man, he worked, he provided for us and he did his best, I have no memories of him ever raising his voice but many of him at sports events, dance shows and music recitals. My mum on the other hand was very scattered as a person, she rarely attended my events despite being an artist so having no real schedule to stick to. She’d often disappear for a few days if she and my dad fell out and when she got back she’d make a point of telling me how awful he was.
At 12 my grandad passed away, my parents marriage had been at boiling point for a while and they decided to divorce. My mum wanted to move back to France and look after my grandma, I remember begging her to take me with her (not because I didn’t love or want to stay with my dad but I think I genuinely believed she would stop loving me if she didn’t see me), my dad worked long hours and agreed. My dad was amazing, I spent every school holiday with him (16 weeks in France so quite a bit), he would travel over for events, he paid my school fees and called me every single night never missing. My mum was fine for the first 6 months, she spoiled me I remember her making a massive deal out of introducing me to all her friends. I also recall her lying to these friends saying my dad never bothered with me, he had ran off with some woman (he’s literally never been in a relationship since my mum), she was paying my school fees alone etc. none of it was true but I was a little intimidated by her so never said anything.
6 months into moving my grandma passed away. From here my mum slowly started to spiral, a chain of relationships each following the same pattern, she would be elated and spoil me with clothes for meeting them, then they would fight, then it would end. Every time it ended it was my fault somehow, either I hadn’t been nice enough to them in her opinion or as I got older it would be that because I was young and “pretty” I made her look ugly.
She was also a heavy drinker, I don’t recall a single day she didn’t drink in my teen years, sometimes just a glass of wine, other times I’d get home to her passed out in bed drunk. She could be scathing towards me, say really awful things to me, I was always too much like my dad, too skinny, then too fat, hair too long etc. However if she knew I was about to be seeing my dad she would change up, never apologise but she would spoil me with things she couldn’t afford and give me a script to tell my dad. She also had a habit of threatening to hurt herself if I were ever defiant.
I never told anyone, I think partially as I was ashamed, I felt like everyone around me had normal family’s and I was odd. I didn’t tell my dad as I knew he regretted letting me move and I didn’t want him to feel worse and I also feared that if I left my mum something awful would happen.
After I finished school I took a gap year, travelled and when I got back my mums apartment was a total mess, bottles, pills, rubbish, like she totally lost herself. So I made the choice to stay in France for university, I was happy enough still close to my dad. I moved out but I was walking distance away and would call my mum daily, visit her at least twice a week. Sometimes she was fine, other times less so.
After I finished university, I had applied for some masters back in the uk. I never really believed I’d go but I wanted to believe I would. My mum hated me for even considering it. In the July my mum took her own life, I won’t go into detail but it was the most horrific experience of my life.
My dad came over and helped with funeral planning etc. and for the first time he learnt about how my mother had been for the last 10 years. He had barley communicated with her, she never wanted to talk to him so I was sort of responsible for arranging everything myself and just keeping both parents updated.
Her apartment was chaos, and I recall him very simply saying “how long has it been like this” and I couldn’t answer. I will never forget seeing him sob for the first time in that moment.

Since then, my dad constantly blames himself for my teen years. I don’t blame him at all, there was no way he could have known, I was literally lying to him daily telling him things were good, my mother never spoke to him or let him in her apartment so it wasn’t like there were signs he missed.

We have a great relationship, we call most days, we meet up for lunch often but every time he always apologises like he messed up. He keeps telling me he could never fall in love again as he would feel like he was abandoning me again. I’ve told him so many times that I just want him to be happy, that he did nothing wrong and the weeks I spent with him were the best. I worry for his mental health as he still lives in a large home alone, and I almost feel a similar responsibility to be his lifeline as I did to my mum.

I’ve tried to gently suggest he gets therapy or we even do family therapy but he’s a proud and old fashioned man so I don’t think he’d go for it.

AIBU to really wish he would stop blaming himself? Even if he does never remarry I don’t really like the weight of that choice being mine to carry as a “I’m doing this for you” situation.

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MrAlyakhin · 13/10/2025 02:09

I am amazed you feel so kindly towards your dad. He knew what she was like and let you go with her at age 12. I can't imagine letting anyone move away with my child. Doesn't matter how many holidays you spend with them, parenting is about the day to day and isn't replaced by a phone call. She then didn't speak to him about you. This would be a major concern.

He now knows you spent years lying to him. Proving that the relationship he thought he had with you was in reality something completely different. You couldn't confide in him. No surprises he feels awful about that. But I also struggle to believe, you were as good as you think you were, at hiding what was going on. So I suspect he ignored or minimised various red flags for which he feels very guilty.

It's lovely that you have a good relationship with your dad but I can totally understand why he feels so bad.

I also think that you are right to suggest he talks to someone about these feelings. In reality he's making you his counsellor and over sharing with you. He's not dissimilar to your mum in this regard. You shouldn't be in the position of having to constantly reassure him. Instead he needs to own some of the decisions he made and deal with the feelings and especially the guilt.

Evsn · 13/10/2025 02:16

MrAlyakhin · 13/10/2025 02:09

I am amazed you feel so kindly towards your dad. He knew what she was like and let you go with her at age 12. I can't imagine letting anyone move away with my child. Doesn't matter how many holidays you spend with them, parenting is about the day to day and isn't replaced by a phone call. She then didn't speak to him about you. This would be a major concern.

He now knows you spent years lying to him. Proving that the relationship he thought he had with you was in reality something completely different. You couldn't confide in him. No surprises he feels awful about that. But I also struggle to believe, you were as good as you think you were, at hiding what was going on. So I suspect he ignored or minimised various red flags for which he feels very guilty.

It's lovely that you have a good relationship with your dad but I can totally understand why he feels so bad.

I also think that you are right to suggest he talks to someone about these feelings. In reality he's making you his counsellor and over sharing with you. He's not dissimilar to your mum in this regard. You shouldn't be in the position of having to constantly reassure him. Instead he needs to own some of the decisions he made and deal with the feelings and especially the guilt.

At the time it made a lot of logistical sense for me to move with my mum. We didn’t have much of a support network in the uk (elderly grandparents who themselves needed care was about it) and my dad worked a lot. My grandma needed care so my mum initially moved back for that and when she passed it was obviously a trigger point for behaviours much worse than she had shown before to come out.

I genuinely don’t believe my dad did anything wrong, I spent much more time with him than my mother in my teens, despite living with my mum. He always gave me the option to move back, I never wanted to, I was scared about what would happen to my mum if I did.

I think for the most part families should stay in the same place but in this case it wasn’t a lack of love for me or selfishness, sometimes life just happens and you have to make the most of a bad situation, I’m sure that’s what they thought they were doing at first. No one could have predicted the turn my mum took once we moved, even to this day I know people would never imagine that was what it was like.

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ittakes2 · 13/10/2025 02:53

I’m sorry for what you have been through.
I think you need to tell your dad that life is short. You understand he feels guilty about the past and you not only forgive him for it but what you need is for him to forgive himself. You love him and what you want more than anything now is to have a postive meaningful healthy relationship with him but you can’t do that until he draws a line in the sand and forgets the past as you need him to be in the now with you and in the future

kkloo · 13/10/2025 03:35

Even if he does never remarry I don’t really like the weight of that choice being mine to carry as a “I’m doing this for you” situation.

Tell him this. The next time he says he's sorry etc tell him that you just want to enjoy a nice relationship with him and when he keeps apologising he's making you feel bad for him and responsibility for him like you did with your mum.

Evsn · 13/10/2025 12:25

kkloo · 13/10/2025 03:35

Even if he does never remarry I don’t really like the weight of that choice being mine to carry as a “I’m doing this for you” situation.

Tell him this. The next time he says he's sorry etc tell him that you just want to enjoy a nice relationship with him and when he keeps apologising he's making you feel bad for him and responsibility for him like you did with your mum.

I have tried but it genuinely doesn’t seem to land with him. I really think some sort of therapy would be the best call but I have no idea how to convince him of that.

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kkloo · 13/10/2025 17:10

Evsn · 13/10/2025 12:25

I have tried but it genuinely doesn’t seem to land with him. I really think some sort of therapy would be the best call but I have no idea how to convince him of that.

Yes sounds like therapy would be best, have you suggested it at all, if not then I'd suggest it the next time he starts saying sorry or talking about the past, I'd say I don't want apologies, I want you to go to therapy.

EscapeTheCastle · 13/10/2025 17:20

Family therapy popped into my head even before you mentioned it. Approach it lightly and with humour- as a "lets give it a go" and "lets see if we like it" way.

Trallers · 13/10/2025 17:35

Your dad sounds lovely so I don't mean this to be berating of him, but he does bear some responsibility. He knew better than you what your mum was like, there will have been details and depths to the chaos that he saw in her that you (as the child) didn't. Yet despite his better judgement he allowed his precious daughter to go off to live abroad with someone he rightly didn't trust. That doesn't mean his.motives for allowing it were bad (he clearly cared about your wishes), but it really wasn't the right decision for your wellbeing and that now weighs heavily on him. Maybe you acknowledging that it was a screw up rather than trying to convince him it wasnt his fault would actually help him? The family therapy sounds like a good idea.

MatildaTheCat · 13/10/2025 17:44

@Evsn July is very recent indeed for such a shocking event to have even begun to sink in. I’m extremely sorry for what has happened to your family.

If you can keep reassuring your Dad that you don’t blame him and you need him to focus on the here and now I think that’s all you can do for now. Support one another.

You may both benefit from some grief counselling in due course but it’s not usually recommended until at least 6 months after a bereavement.

I also recommend contacting the Samaritans as they have support in place for those bereaved by suicide and may be able to offer some additional support

https://www.samaritans.org/how-we-can-help/if-youre-having-difficult-time/support-groups-people-bereaved-suicide/

Take care.

tripleginandtonic · 13/10/2025 18:32

So much sympathy for you and your Dad. But you have each other, your mother made her own decision neither you or your Dad is responsible.

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