Joggers being irresponsible for not wearing hi viz clothing in very foggy conditions

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About 25m visibility here. Driving in a rural part near me. There are villages with about a half a mile between each other. I saw about 3 joggers on different roads. None of them wore any hi viz or reflective clothing. Nor wore any lights. Such as these amzn.eu/d/29CP4sa Two of them wore grey!

How irresponsible is this?

It is good practice to wear high visibility clothing in poor weather if you're jogging on the road.

It's a mandatory condition of your driving licence that you drive to the conditions of the road and drive safely. Fallen trees, loose animals and so forth won't have high vis, and you should be driving sufficiently slowly that you can stop in the distance visible to you. Therefore it shouldn't matter that joggers aren't wearing high vis.

Perfectly said.

I also get apoplectic when they're on the wrong side on a blind bend. Idiots

Yes it's stupid but not an issue if driving at the appropriate speed for the conditions and fully focused on the road.

I live near a rural road, but sometimes busy with people john lgroats to land end, walks, jogs or cycling.
the amount of people in dark clothes, no hi viz, in the dark or fog is ridiculous. Once passed a one in the fog, about 1am wearing completely black outfit and no back light, clearly had a death wish

"Getting apoplectic" has no place behind the wheel of a car. Learn to control your emotions.

I was driving at 25-30mph down country roads today. If wasn't foggy, I would be probably done 50mph.

I saw plenty of cars with no lights on either. Idiots.

This.

I'd have been caught out if I'd run early this morning as it was beautiful sunshine at home. I had no idea that it was foggy 2 miles away by the river. It wouldn't have occured to me that hi-viz, neon and LEDs would have been required. While I generally wear bright clothes, going out decked out like a Christmas tree is a bit overkill in the majority of circumstances if the weather isn't obviously going to be very poor.

Fog can be very localised and not always reliable for a runner to prepare for.

Love this!!

YANBU, but as you can see, you'll get told that it's all on you as the driver and that pedestrians/cyclists shouldn't have to take any responsibility for their own safety or visibility.

Fog can be very localised and not always reliable for a runner to prepare for.

Anyone running or cycling on the roads should be wearing hi-vis as standard.

I agree that it’s a good idea to wear bright and sometimes hi-viz clothing when jogging.

We were startled by an evening jogger recently-he appeared to be wearing black!
It was completely dark and luckily we were slowing as we approached a crossroads so only doing 15-20. It’s a well-used road so he really was putting himself at risk.

I know that it’s his choice but personally, I wouldn’t put my life at risk like that.

@thisishowloween Yes, the jogger will be the in hospital with serious injuries (or worse), not the driver. Why would anyone wish that on themselves?

I had a similar incident last winter with a cyclist - except it was a busy NSL road and he was cycling in all-black. Terrifying.

First answer nails it.

@FKAT But would you personally put your life/health at risk like that? I wouldn’t, I don’t enjoy pain and I need to think of my children’s welfare too.

I always wear hi viz when road running irrespective of the weather as I want cars to see me. As a driver I know how invisible non cars can be on roads without it and as I’m invariably going a lot faster than them can quickly be upon them before they are visible.

It seems so insane not to do so as whilst the driver would be at fault, the runner is more likely to die.