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“Alot”

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TheClanoftheDook · 11/10/2025 12:46

Appreciate I’ll be called all the arseholes for this one. But I am actually interested.

I see this constantly. On here. In real life. On another thread, there is an apparent “commercial lawyer” using it.

Why? Where does it come from? How are people looking at “alot” and thinking it’s a word? Aren’t you having to fight the autocorrect to use it? I did. It autocorrected my title more than once.

So. If you use “alot” - why?

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SwedishEdith · 14/10/2025 18:46

SALaw · 14/10/2025 06:33

Who is doing that?! I’ve never seen that mistake. They don’t even sound the same.

I have caught myself typing that quite a few times. I'm typing the sound in my head (they sound interchangeable in my accent). I think that's why some seem to get "there/their/they're" wrong. Their fingers go too quickly to the wrong keys when typing the sound in their head

AutumnCosy2025 · 14/10/2025 19:05

SALaw · 14/10/2025 06:33

Who is doing that?! I’ve never seen that mistake. They don’t even sound the same.

They do in my accent.

RaraRachael · 14/10/2025 19:09

To me, "are" has one syllable, "our" has two.
Mind you I'd be more likely to say "wir" than "our" eg "That's wir house"

Fgfgfg · 14/10/2025 19:20

SALaw · 14/10/2025 06:33

Who is doing that?! I’ve never seen that mistake. They don’t even sound the same.

It depends on your accent. I will say 'are' when I mean 'our' but would never make that mistake when writing.

Buxusmortus · 14/10/2025 22:56

MasterBeth · 14/10/2025 18:31

On what authority are you claiming that it is right to say "not to want" and wrong to say "to not want."

Says who?

The authority of the accepted rules of correct English grammar.
The same rules that, for example, govern where the verb goes in a phrase in English. It's correct to say " I mended my socks", whereas it's incorrect to say "My socks I mended".

LillyPJ · 14/10/2025 23:05

Buxusmortus · 14/10/2025 22:56

The authority of the accepted rules of correct English grammar.
The same rules that, for example, govern where the verb goes in a phrase in English. It's correct to say " I mended my socks", whereas it's incorrect to say "My socks I mended".

There isn't an authority about grammar. Grammar describes how language is used. People say 'To not want' and 'Not to want'. Both are fine and easily understood.

dontcomeatme · 14/10/2025 23:07

Pomped · 11/10/2025 12:55

It’s up there with “his” rather than “he’s”

Ooh this reminds me my sister says "give is a ring" 😬

MasterBeth · 14/10/2025 23:15

Buxusmortus · 14/10/2025 22:56

The authority of the accepted rules of correct English grammar.
The same rules that, for example, govern where the verb goes in a phrase in English. It's correct to say " I mended my socks", whereas it's incorrect to say "My socks I mended".

The authority of the accepted rules of correct English grammar.

Are these accepted rules in the room with you now?

Buxusmortus · 15/10/2025 01:27

MasterBeth · 14/10/2025 23:15

The authority of the accepted rules of correct English grammar.

Are these accepted rules in the room with you now?

Er...what?

VickyEadieofThigh · 15/10/2025 17:36

SALaw · 14/10/2025 06:33

Who is doing that?! I’ve never seen that mistake. They don’t even sound the same.

I see it a lot by fellow Northerners.

MasterBeth · 15/10/2025 20:16

Buxusmortus · 15/10/2025 01:27

Er...what?

knowyourmeme.com/memes/is-x-in-the-room-with-us-right-now

Who are the authorities? You're imagining something that doesn't exist.

mustwashmycurtains · 16/10/2025 13:59

MasterBeth · 14/10/2025 18:29

Honestly, listen to yourself.

Do you speak like someone from the 17th century? The 1920s? The second World War?

No, of course you don't. You use all kinds of more modern phrases and words.

It's not how the world is going, it's how language has always evolved.

But there was no need for this one? It’s just added a pointless word. Change worked really well on its own - there’s a better argument for making ‘alot’ an official word

*also kind of the point of this thread….?

MasterBeth · 16/10/2025 14:39

mustwashmycurtains · 16/10/2025 13:59

But there was no need for this one? It’s just added a pointless word. Change worked really well on its own - there’s a better argument for making ‘alot’ an official word

*also kind of the point of this thread….?

Language doesn't necessarily change because of "need". It's not on a journey to efficiency or clarity.

Like genetic evolution, random changes are generated then reproduced because they "fit" - maybe because of fashion or trends or fame or utility. You can't fight it!

mustwashmycurtains · 16/10/2025 15:18

MasterBeth · 16/10/2025 14:39

Language doesn't necessarily change because of "need". It's not on a journey to efficiency or clarity.

Like genetic evolution, random changes are generated then reproduced because they "fit" - maybe because of fashion or trends or fame or utility. You can't fight it!

I do take your point, but based on that argument every common grammatical mistake should be accepted and then used? Ie alot, you’re/your, they’re/there/their, ‘could of’ instead of ‘could have’ etc etc

Why is ‘change it up’ ok but not the misuse of all the other errors? (Promise I’m
not an English teacher banging on about SPAG!)

SafeSex · 16/10/2025 15:50

ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 14/10/2025 14:21

Sorry as I haven't RTFT but my pet hates are "your" instead of "you're", "there's" instead of "their's" and "exaggerate" instead of "exacerbate".

That last one really bloody winds me up. But obviously sometimes it's just because they're not used to seeing the correct word, and I guess must think their ways has been always right. 🤔😳

No such word as "their's".

MasterBeth · 16/10/2025 15:59

mustwashmycurtains · 16/10/2025 15:18

I do take your point, but based on that argument every common grammatical mistake should be accepted and then used? Ie alot, you’re/your, they’re/there/their, ‘could of’ instead of ‘could have’ etc etc

Why is ‘change it up’ ok but not the misuse of all the other errors? (Promise I’m
not an English teacher banging on about SPAG!)

Here's what I believe:

Language is how we communicate. It's not a SPAG lesson. There's nothing fundamentally correct or incorrect about any of it, other than what we collectively agree to. No-one has any authority to impose their vision of language on anyone else. Language is democratic. The "rules of language" aren't like the rules of Scrabble. No-one invented them before the game can be played. They are just an attempt to codify what already existed - i.e. how we already communicate.

Yes, written language is more codified than spoken language. We largely agree on the correct spellings of words. Cat isn't spelled "katt" but, actually, it could be in a text or an ad or a poem and we'd still understand it in context.

"Alot" is not the standard way of spelling "a lot" until enough people agree that it is. Yes, it's clearly "wrong" in that it's generally accepted to be incorrect, but that is not a fixed position based on any logic. It's just current best practice.

The "up" suffix is something different in "work it up", "change it up" (I've even seen "Google it up"). It's a choice, not an error. I guess it's an attempt to be more emphatic or positive, but it's not really for me to say.

Why might someone invent a new word use when they don't need to?

Because it sounds fun, because it sounds interesting, because it rhymes, just because.

We play with language all the time, some of us more than others. (A lot of new English language comes from AAVE (African American Vernacular English) and young women are more likely to create new usage than young men.)

There are loads of ways of talking and writing that I wouldn't use and don't love. They're not wrong, though, just like the music I don't like isn't wrong, or the food I don't care for isn't wrong or the accents I don't speak in aren't wrong.

ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 16/10/2025 17:01

SafeSex · 16/10/2025 15:50

No such word as "their's".

Yes, my bad. I think it was a typo.

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