To think there should be public information adverts on TV to highlight changes in the Highway Code

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Because many road users have no idea.

Zipper Merge
HC Hierarchy
Crossing at the Head of Junctions
Cyclist Road Positioning

😅 gosh, never me I promise!

Yeah it was on GMB randomly! Zero real press other than those clickbait newspapers that you dont really pay attention to

Insane honestly, not everyone watches tv news, there needs to be a big campaign

I know about it without watching gmb

I was already crossing before the car appeared

This has been the law in many other countries across the world. They cope.

Rubbish. If you'd started turning then stopped it could happen, so just indicate, slow and if there is a pedestrian crossing you have to wait until they're done to start turning, just as you would if there were a car in the opposite lane. Why should a pedestrian walking along a main road with loads of side roads have to add onto their journey going up and down each side road? Drivers need to adjust to not being the priority in urban areas.

Yes to Zip Merging!! This has been my bug bear for ages. Very few drivers seem aware of how to zip merge correctly. Those of us who do use it correctly are treated like arrogant queue jumpers, often being blocked from merging at the correct point..

I did that the other day, driver behind threw up her hands dramatically, then leaned on her horn. She spent the rest of the drive up my arse before I eventually pulled over and let her pass as she was better off in front of me given she was in such a rush and so important
real reason - I didn’t want to get rear ended

I’m sure my most said words driving are
INDICATORS, i am not mystic meg
ZIP MERGE oh FFS

Agreed.
Pedestrians are at the top of the Highway Code Hierarchy

Then you agree it needs publicising more?

Pedestrians are at the top of the Highway Code Hierarchy
It's an insane rule. The rule should be "if it's bigger than you then it's probably best to give way". If I am a pedestrian then I don't pick fights with cars. If I'm driving a car then I don't pick fights with lorries and buses. It's called self-preservation.
Putting pedestrians at the top of the hierarchy just means we get teenagers sauntering out into the road looking at their phones instead of the traffic.

What a dreadful attitude!

We should all look out for, and protect, those who are more vulnerable. That’s a life rule surely

Yeah this. It's not the highway code but in reality it's the rules of the road in real life. I'm definitely not taking on the lorries or tractors round my way. As a pedestrian who frequents country roads you best believe I'm stepping onto the verge and not trusting the teenage driver or the insert any walk of life person who's tapping on their phone, to avoid me.

I give way to other road users when it's safe to do so. Honestly driving is the only time when my hyper awareness and observation skills help. I just treat every other road user as if they're mental and on a suicide mission and give the obvious bad drivers a very wide berth.

I think many misunderstand the hierarchy rule, which kind of backs up my theory of publicising and explaining it.

The idea is that we look out for those who are more vulnerable, not that we can just jump out in front of lorries.

The suggestion up thread that pedestrians should be made to walk an extra 20metres at each junction to make life easier for motor vehicles, only highlights the entitled attitude of some motorists

I don’t think people would care if it was. Half the drivers in the road don’t indicate and that’s a basic thing

Then the rule to give way applies regardless of the "new" rule? So can't see the relevance. If you were on the road first then they obviously should be waiting but it must be a tricky crossing if you didn't see the car at all but had to stop to not walk into it

Cars turning into side roads giving way to pedestrians already crossing isn't one of the new rules, though, that's always been the case. And "not mowing down pedestrians who are in the middle of the road" is a pretty common sense and straightforward rule to remember. The revised rule, on the other hand, seems to involve stopping for pedestrians hovering on pavements, but only in some circumstances and remembering which circumstances whilst also trying to tell the difference between someone waiting to cross and someone loitering with no intention to cross with no real clues to guide you (ie like a zebra crossing). Plus what I asked before about whether it still applies if pedestrian crossings have been placed slightly off from the junction specifically for pedestrians to cross it. So, yes, there should be better public announcements to publicise and explain these changes as I feel this one in particular really isn't very clear.

Well that'd be us never being able to walk to school.

It's a series of Z shaped junctions all off a main road all with left and right turning.

To get into the school, it's a junction.

I can't see councils having such a massive change of infrastructure to support not being able to cross within 10m of a junction.

You should try driving in rural Yorkshire.

I love where I live, I really do, but it has its own rules. The other day I had to stop on a 60-limit road for someone who'd pulled out from the side road to turn right and was calmly waiting in the middle of my lane for the oncoming traffic to clear, so he could complete his turn. I came home spitting feathers to find everyone else local utterly puzzled. 'But Sarah, it's hard turning right there, you often need to let people out ...' 'oh well, I suppose he'd been waiting a while and got impatient'.

The other side to it is that 'helpful' people routinely beckon and flash at you to turn out of a side road while they let you in, then get offended if you decline to turn out with absolutely no visibility of what's coming the other way. Completely mad. Lovely, well-intentioned people, but completely mad.

As @Waipai had noted, ‘new rules’ such as not driving into pedestrians are not new rules.

The recent ‘change’ about that is a formal hierarchal list that explicitly states an order from the various existing rules.

Merging under rule 134 has been in the Highway Code for a decade, and the ‘new’ version is a wording change that advised against changing lane unnecessarily - it did not tell drivers to pull into one lane as soon as possible and wave your fist at those who carry on up the empty lane

Cyclists (and motorcyclists) have been told for decades to use the lane properly and not ride in the gutter. If you ride far to the left you hit all the detritus / broken glass etc, and other trafffic is tempted to push past you without overtaking

Wording in the Highway Code is regularly updated, the above mentioned ‘new rules’ are wording changes that are three years old.
All road users should have been following those principles for decades anyway

When I was learning to drive in the 80s I was told that I should I buy each new edition, nowadays it’s live on the internet for free
Road users have ignored the Highway Code since its first publication

I know all this.
It’s my job to know.

It seems that many of you have a low bar on this. with The general attitude appears to be that either the rules are rubbish, or that there’s no point in publicising or reminding people because no-one will take any notice.

Or how about they weren’t indicating to turn?

I know my Highway Code thanks.

These days? I remember there were taxi drivers in the 1990s speeding, beeping and nearly running me over because I was already crossing the road they were turning into. And they never used their indicators. Or having near misses on zebra crossings with the cars approaching in a second lane and not seeing the crossing or someone on it. Or drivers completely ignoring red lights. Loads used to not wear seatbelts long after it was illegal too.