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Do you think the Palestinian protests should be restricted?

188 replies

Yriovd · 05/10/2025 22:50

With talk of the potential police powers, what do you think?

YABU - no restrictions, allow them to go ahead every week as they currently do.

YANBU - restrict them so they’re allowed less frequently, or ban them altogether.

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JKLolling · 06/10/2025 18:15

What is sad is that the bad faith actors of Palestine Action are trying to overurn their ban by convincing the gullible and vulnerable in society to get themselves arrested in their name, so that the system gets overwhelmed and the ban has fo be overturned. Very Hamas like behaviour, the hiding behind the vulnerable. Many of the people holding placards won't know that PA took sledghammers and homemade whips to attack the police and the public.

I imagine they are going to be very regretful and humiliated during the trial in November. But then, they are adults who could have done basic research and just supported palestine instead 🤷‍♀️

noblegiraffe · 06/10/2025 18:18

And the co-founder of Palestine Action is currently waiting for his day in court for supporting Hamas and October 7th.

cityanalyst678 · 06/10/2025 18:22

It’s not fair on the businesses and people who live in central London. How would these people like tens of thousands of people taking over their streets and making their lives miserable, every single weekend? Amazing how these people have so much time on their hands. Do they full time jobs or just float through life?

noblegiraffe · 06/10/2025 18:26

Have the protestors at least stopped banging on the window of McDonalds and shouting 'Shame on you' at the customers?

usedtobeaylis · 06/10/2025 18:26

Absolutely not.

EasternStandard · 06/10/2025 18:28

Echobelly · 06/10/2025 18:09

Yes, and if the police were concerned about their time being wasted, maybe they could have made a decision not to arrest peaceful protestors so they could give their time to other things. That decision would also have given the protest much less attention, which is what the authorities would want.

Tbf the police have to follow the laws as they are.

DrPrunesqualer · 06/10/2025 18:38

noblegiraffe · 06/10/2025 18:08

The guy was charged with aggravated burglary using as sledgehammer as an offensive weapon, and he was also charged with grievous bodily harm and actual bodily harm. Offensive weapons are weapons used to injure, not smash stuff up.

And a police officer ended up in hospital.

You're not going to be able to paint this as a heroic act.

As posted by Plantatreetoday in August on your own thread noble

The charges !!
The news articles made in haste were wrong
The sledgehammer was brought to smash up equipment as the company were selling parts used in weapons used by Israel killing civilians in Gaza.

Do you think the Palestinian protests should be restricted?
Do you think the Palestinian protests should be restricted?
JKLolling · 06/10/2025 18:41

DrPrunesqualer · 06/10/2025 18:38

As posted by Plantatreetoday in August on your own thread noble

The charges !!
The news articles made in haste were wrong
The sledgehammer was brought to smash up equipment as the company were selling parts used in weapons used by Israel killing civilians in Gaza.

Did you miss where it said two police officers were seriously assualted?

noblegiraffe · 06/10/2025 18:41

DrPrunesqualer · 06/10/2025 18:38

As posted by Plantatreetoday in August on your own thread noble

The charges !!
The news articles made in haste were wrong
The sledgehammer was brought to smash up equipment as the company were selling parts used in weapons used by Israel killing civilians in Gaza.

And indeed some were charged with aggravated burglary using a sledgehammer.

The one charged with grievous and actual bodily hard was charged with aggravated burglary using a sledgehammer as an offensive weapon and when you look up the meaning of offensive weapon it means a weapon intended or actually used to cause physical harm. Not just smashing up equipment.

So he was using a sledgehammer as an offensive weapon, caused actual and grievous bodily harm, a police officer ended up on hospital but actually the sledgehammer was totally innocent?

JKLolling · 06/10/2025 18:42

DrPrunesqualer · 06/10/2025 18:38

As posted by Plantatreetoday in August on your own thread noble

The charges !!
The news articles made in haste were wrong
The sledgehammer was brought to smash up equipment as the company were selling parts used in weapons used by Israel killing civilians in Gaza.

Genuinely, did you not read your own post? What on earth are you defending these vile terrorist thugs for? Are you one of the simpletons who has been arrested for holding a placard?

noblegiraffe · 06/10/2025 18:44

JKLolling · 06/10/2025 18:42

Genuinely, did you not read your own post? What on earth are you defending these vile terrorist thugs for? Are you one of the simpletons who has been arrested for holding a placard?

"He put an officer in hospital and was charged with actual bodily harm but I'm going to quibble about the method of putting him in hospital because that makes all the difference."

It's bizarre, isn't it? Do they ever pause to do any self reflection?

DrPrunesqualer · 06/10/2025 18:44

JKLolling · 06/10/2025 18:15

What is sad is that the bad faith actors of Palestine Action are trying to overurn their ban by convincing the gullible and vulnerable in society to get themselves arrested in their name, so that the system gets overwhelmed and the ban has fo be overturned. Very Hamas like behaviour, the hiding behind the vulnerable. Many of the people holding placards won't know that PA took sledghammers and homemade whips to attack the police and the public.

I imagine they are going to be very regretful and humiliated during the trial in November. But then, they are adults who could have done basic research and just supported palestine instead 🤷‍♀️

Sledgehammers were to smash up equipment
Facts and truth are everything

Do you think the Palestinian protests should be restricted?
noblegiraffe · 06/10/2025 18:45

DrPrunesqualer · 06/10/2025 18:44

Sledgehammers were to smash up equipment
Facts and truth are everything

And the police officer just put themselves in hospital.

CoralPombear · 06/10/2025 18:45

I have to admit I find some of it quite selfish. I’d love to know how much it’s cost the UK in terms of resources, policing, planning etc we can ill afford on an issue so far away we have no realistic prospect of changing.

JKLolling · 06/10/2025 18:46

noblegiraffe · 06/10/2025 18:44

"He put an officer in hospital and was charged with actual bodily harm but I'm going to quibble about the method of putting him in hospital because that makes all the difference."

It's bizarre, isn't it? Do they ever pause to do any self reflection?

I think it's a bit of dawning realisation and 'oh shit that's actually really bad and I've supported them, wait if they assaulted police with homemade whips and knives instead of a sledgehammer then maybe I was justified in supporting them thinking that my placard would save Gaza and I would be a hero of the ages'

It's tragic

PurpleThistle7 · 06/10/2025 20:12

cityanalyst678 · 06/10/2025 18:22

It’s not fair on the businesses and people who live in central London. How would these people like tens of thousands of people taking over their streets and making their lives miserable, every single weekend? Amazing how these people have so much time on their hands. Do they full time jobs or just float through life?

The ones outside my office are mostly students and retired professors all congratulating themselves for being on trend.

CallMeDaphne · 06/10/2025 20:15

Well, if they were restricted, then the same rules would have to apply to people protesting outside hotels where asylum seekers live.

PurpleThistle7 · 06/10/2025 20:21

CallMeDaphne · 06/10/2025 20:15

Well, if they were restricted, then the same rules would have to apply to people protesting outside hotels where asylum seekers live.

Sounds good to me! Let’s do that too

noblegiraffe · 06/10/2025 21:14

PurpleThistle7 · 06/10/2025 20:21

Sounds good to me! Let’s do that too

Yes, it sounds like a great plan with no downsides. Not sure why they suggested it like it was a bad thing.

cityanalyst678 · 06/10/2025 22:20

Those students can’t be working that hard either…

Ellen2shoes · 08/10/2025 23:27

JKLolling · 06/10/2025 18:46

I think it's a bit of dawning realisation and 'oh shit that's actually really bad and I've supported them, wait if they assaulted police with homemade whips and knives instead of a sledgehammer then maybe I was justified in supporting them thinking that my placard would save Gaza and I would be a hero of the ages'

It's tragic

What is tragic is the massacre of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians in a genocide. Let’s have some perspective.

Ellen2shoes · 08/10/2025 23:51

noblegiraffe · 06/10/2025 13:58

Those protestors are standing up for the right to attack our U.K. military, endanger our national security while we are at war, and on the side put a police officer in hospital.

If I was going to be arrested, it wouldn’t be that group I’d be getting a criminal record for.

If it were Russia doing it, people would be horrified and scared. Stick a keffiyeh on it and mindless idiots will laud them as heroes.

This is not a war. It’s a genocide.

noblegiraffe · 08/10/2025 23:55

Ellen2shoes · 08/10/2025 23:51

This is not a war. It’s a genocide.

Mate, it's not all about Gaza.

The war with Russia. Do you think this is a great time to be putting British military assets out of action?

Ellen2shoes · 09/10/2025 11:16

For the past 2 years, people around the world have been watching a genocide unfold live-streamed onto their phones. It is beyond horrific.

Israel finds itself isolated not because the world is anti semitic, but because it has massacred hundreds of thousands of civilians, a disproportionate amount of whom are children. They have bombed every hospital, killed journalists and doctors. They have deliberately targeted children with snipers and withheld food, including baby formula, in attempt to starve an already desperate population to death.

They have committed ecocide in order to ensure ethnic cleaning is complete and people cannot return to agricultural land.

The global protests are a humane response to the atrocities, an attempt to persuade governments to put in place arms embargoes and insist upon the release of aid. People attending the protests are from all faiths with thousands of Jewish people alongside Christians and Muslims. This is not about religion, although there are those who seek to divide and weaponise by attempting to conflate Judaism with the actions of Israel.

Peaceful protest is a fundamental democratic right and anyone who seeks to undermine it does so to the detriment of us all.

noblegiraffe · 09/10/2025 11:18

You didn’t answer my question @Ellen2shoes