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To ask you to sum up your council’s SEN provision in a sentence?

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Starwomanwaiting · 01/10/2025 17:58

Hello all,
Some very brief background: I have an autistic child, referred at 18 months, saw consultant before age 2, diagnosed age 3, extra funding at nursery for at least a year now. Nursery is applying for EHCP which will take 12 weeks. Have seen educational psychologist and looking to defer reception for a year.

My question: it seems like we have been very lucky with our experience so far (except for speech therapy provision, which has had to be private). However we can’t stay in the city forever and need to buy a house/want a garden. So we need to find somewhere that isn’t going to be total shite for SEND.

If you are outside London and have had a good experience please tell me! I know each case is unique but it would help me do more research. Equally if your experience has been awful and you’d like to warn me off please do so.

I want to do right by my kid, but in a SEND crisis it’s hard to know where to start.

Thanks x

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BoredZelda · 02/10/2025 10:46

CopperWhite · 01/10/2025 19:56

My one sentence would be

SEN provision is fine but clearing and life experiences for children could be significantly improved if so much money wasn’t wasted on providing parents with transport to school that they either don’t need or could afford themselves, especially if their child receives funding for their mobility though their benefits.

I could afford a taxi to my daughter’s school. But, the Local Authority has mopped up every single taxi company in the county to provide transport for kids, and they still don’t have enough. If you need a taxi in our area between 8 and 9 or 2.30 and 3.30, you will really struggle to get one.

Plus, I am also subsidising a whole load of other things they don’t provide, I’d rather not have to do that too. How about we target things parents of non disabled kids can afford to provide like free bus passes and free school meals.

PraisebetoGod · 02/10/2025 10:47

Room for improvement.

Starwomanwaiting · 02/10/2025 10:48

Arran2024 · 01/10/2025 21:33

If you get a good ehc where you are, it will be difficult for the new LA to dillute it. Imo the important thing is being able to access the provision. If your child needs specialist provision you might need to work out where that is and move close by, or your child will be stuck in transport for hours every day. That's a big issue if you move to a large county as their sen school could be a very long way.

London local authorities are usually pretty good for sen kids. For one thing they are geographically small so it's easier to reach the provision. Have you considered an outer London LA? Sutton, Kingston, Richmond all have plenty of provision for example, including post 16.

Btw why are you rdeferring for a year? The usual advice for kids with sen is to give them support as early as possible

Thanks for this. We can’t really afford to live in London and own a big enough house, not even in the suburbs. We are deferring for a year because excellent support is already in place in nursery.

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tiredangry · 02/10/2025 10:49

Here’s the word for my council’s SEN provision that my DS got:

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and then apparently I’m a demon for using a private school.

6thformoptions · 02/10/2025 10:50

A 4 year wait for first assessment means it's not a viable route to take if you need it to help with schooling.

Starwomanwaiting · 02/10/2025 10:51

happydays93 · 01/10/2025 22:46

I’ve worked in a few local authorities, so have a different view.
South Gloucestershire - exceptional
Surrey - horrific
Oxford - horrific

At Surrey I had a caseload of 140 but it was a shitshow left behind by a number of agency members of staff.
Oxford I had nearly 400 and had panic attacks most days.

Thank you for this. Was considering Oxford(shire) so this is useful

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PennywisePoundFoolish · 02/10/2025 10:53

Essex County Council excel in unlawful decisions, gaslighting and failing CYP and their families.

Starwomanwaiting · 02/10/2025 10:53

6thformoptions · 02/10/2025 10:50

A 4 year wait for first assessment means it's not a viable route to take if you need it to help with schooling.

I am horrified that some people are waiting four years for an assessment, while my child was diagnosed by age three. It is so spectacularly unfair.

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Starwomanwaiting · 02/10/2025 10:56

Thanks everyone for your responses. I feel scared, sad and disheartened but also in possession of a lot more insight than we had yesterday.

In answer to a few of your questions, the ed psych thought try mainstream first. Child is still so small and while not talking now it’s hard to know where they’ll be in a year’s time.

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PortSalutPlease · 02/10/2025 10:57

Enterthewolves · 01/10/2025 22:14

Avoid Brighton & Hove and West Sussex

This. We have had a relatively smooth run only because I have the skills and experience. I wrote our EHCP by myself, kicked up a fuss til it was approved, and did the same for our families assessment with disability social work.

6thformoptions · 02/10/2025 10:57

Starwomanwaiting · 02/10/2025 10:53

I am horrified that some people are waiting four years for an assessment, while my child was diagnosed by age three. It is so spectacularly unfair.

We went private and were very lucky a family member died to enable that (horrible thing to have to say). It's why I get annoyed when they say you have to have an ECHP as in the state system that would have likely taken us to Y10/11 to get and all the stress that goes with it. In private she doesn't need that; they test they do what they think she needs and all is settled. I am actually very lucky and a lot of her friends from primary only got put on medication in Y7 of senior school, and those were the ones running out of classrooms causing danger to themselves and others. The ones who managed better but cracked at senior are still waiting in Y10.

SafeAndStranded · 02/10/2025 10:59

Wigan - absolutely everything is a fight despite DS having extensive physical disabilities and learning difficulties. I do have to say though that after winning the 4 year fight to transfer to special school everything has become much smoother.

Starwomanwaiting · 02/10/2025 11:01

6thformoptions · 02/10/2025 10:57

We went private and were very lucky a family member died to enable that (horrible thing to have to say). It's why I get annoyed when they say you have to have an ECHP as in the state system that would have likely taken us to Y10/11 to get and all the stress that goes with it. In private she doesn't need that; they test they do what they think she needs and all is settled. I am actually very lucky and a lot of her friends from primary only got put on medication in Y7 of senior school, and those were the ones running out of classrooms causing danger to themselves and others. The ones who managed better but cracked at senior are still waiting in Y10.

Edited

I have a sibling who was in private, but paid for by the local authority. We took them to tribunal but in those days you got a free lawyer. How times have changed.

Private is not an option for us at the moment. However again we are very lucky in that we will likely have the ECHP in place by early next year. The deadline here is 12 weeks and it actually takes that long. To give some insight into how different some london boroughs are, people in the council keep telling me it’s illegal to go past 12 weeks and that it never happens.

Again, so unfair and unequal nationally,

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TheGirlattheBack · 02/10/2025 11:05

No one has mentioned Wiltshire yet …. Also very very shite. 5 year battle to get an EHCP. They employ an in house legal team to oppose you rather than spending the money on education!

hiredandsqueak · 02/10/2025 11:08

Don't come to Derbyshire. Area SEND inspection was pretty accurate at the time, it's got worse since and now is Reform led so God knows what new depths they will plumb DerbyshireAreaSENDFullinspection_Sep24.pdf

https://files.ofsted.gov.uk/v1/file/50261625

flawlessflipper · 02/10/2025 11:12

The EHCP timescales are the same across England, as set out in Regulation 13(2) of the Special Educational Needs and Disability Regulations 2014. It is 20 weeks from first request to finalising (if the LA is going to issue). Different timescales if it is the result of appeal/mediation. There are a few exceptions too. Not 12 weeks.

12 weeks is the maximum for issuing a finalised amended EHCP following the annual review meeting where the LA is going to amend - made up of a max of 4 weeks to issue the amendment notice following the annual review meeting and a further 8 weeks max to finalise.

6thformoptions · 02/10/2025 11:28

Local authorities often break the law although more often they poorly describe the issues and hope the family simply won't take them to Court - happened to 2 people we know - which obviously all takes time, months and years, not mere weeks. https://educationadvocacy.co.uk/what-is-a-ehcp/timeline/

EHCP Process Flowchart

EHCP Timeline - Education Advocacy

Find the EHCP Timeline here, breaking down the process of procuring an Education, Health & Care Plan, showing what happens at each stage along the way. 

https://educationadvocacy.co.uk/what-is-a-ehcp/timeline

Starwomanwaiting · 02/10/2025 12:30

flawlessflipper · 02/10/2025 11:12

The EHCP timescales are the same across England, as set out in Regulation 13(2) of the Special Educational Needs and Disability Regulations 2014. It is 20 weeks from first request to finalising (if the LA is going to issue). Different timescales if it is the result of appeal/mediation. There are a few exceptions too. Not 12 weeks.

12 weeks is the maximum for issuing a finalised amended EHCP following the annual review meeting where the LA is going to amend - made up of a max of 4 weeks to issue the amendment notice following the annual review meeting and a further 8 weeks max to finalise.

Oh well here they are confident they will have it done within 12 weeks and won’t be breaking the law thankfully

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Starwomanwaiting · 02/10/2025 12:31

6thformoptions · 02/10/2025 11:28

Local authorities often break the law although more often they poorly describe the issues and hope the family simply won't take them to Court - happened to 2 people we know - which obviously all takes time, months and years, not mere weeks. https://educationadvocacy.co.uk/what-is-a-ehcp/timeline/

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I don’t think that is going to happen in our case, thankfully.

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hiredandsqueak · 02/10/2025 12:41

Do you mean nursery are going to take twelve weeks to apply? Timescales apply to everyone, once nursery have submitted request LA get 6 weeks to decide whether they will make an assessment. It's unlikely that LA will do anything quicker than they have to generally they need to be forced to meet the 20 weeks and that is presumng that they aren't going to force you to appeal at any point. You should check out IPSEA and SOSSEN so that you know what should happen and what to do about it when it invariably doesn't.

Burntt · 02/10/2025 13:12

Bucks is horrific. Even when you win at tribunal and have complaints upheld they still just refuse to provide any provision if your child isn’t capable of mainstream. Completely non verbal with significant LD then maybe they will help after you fight for a couple years then wait for a non existent school place

Starwomanwaiting · 02/10/2025 14:47

hiredandsqueak · 02/10/2025 12:41

Do you mean nursery are going to take twelve weeks to apply? Timescales apply to everyone, once nursery have submitted request LA get 6 weeks to decide whether they will make an assessment. It's unlikely that LA will do anything quicker than they have to generally they need to be forced to meet the 20 weeks and that is presumng that they aren't going to force you to appeal at any point. You should check out IPSEA and SOSSEN so that you know what should happen and what to do about it when it invariably doesn't.

No, sorry, it’s still the statutory 20 weeks they just said they often get it done in 12! Nursery have already started the process and brought in the ed psych.

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hiredandsqueak · 02/10/2025 14:56

So nursery requested that LA make a EHC needs assessment? You have seen the paperwork and LA have agreed to assess is that right? Have you asked LA to arrange SALT and OT assessments as well? They are usually invaluable at ensuring EHCP is well informed.

hiredandsqueak · 02/10/2025 15:04

It might just be how you are wording things but it would be LA who send in Ed Psych for a EHC needs assessment. You have seen all the paperwork and you have been asked for your contribution haven't you? EHC needs assessments This is a trusted source of information on the process.

EHC needs assessments

An EHC needs assessment is an assessment of a child or young person’s education, health and care needs

https://www.ipsea.org.uk/ehc-needs-assessments

flawlessflipper · 02/10/2025 15:06

Just so you are aware, there isn’t a borough in London who has issued all their EHCPs within 20 weeks every year for the last 3 years. Let alone 12 weeks. The statistics are available on the government’s website.

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