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Rainbow badges at work - upset

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whatishappening123 · 01/10/2025 14:08

I work in a sector with vulnerable young people. A few years ago, we made the decision as a company to wear as part of our uniform, a name tag with the rainbow on as part of pledging our support to LGBT+
We have all received new name badges and for the first time ever- an option has been provided to have a red coloured one instead of the rainbow if staff 'do not agree with LGBT+'
I have raised this with HR and union and been told that staff are now allowed to choose and that is their right.
I feel really upset by this - colleagues I have known for years are now deciding against the rainbow badge.
We work with the most vulnerable- who are often LGBT. Some of our service users have asked staff directly why they are not using them- and they have lied saying " They'd run out , or the pin on the rainbow ones are crap, some staff are hiding the red ones.
It's not a majority by any means - it's probably about 11 staff in a staff of 60.
I just feel really really upset by it, but I can't quite put my finger on why.
I also don't understand how people can be 'against' LGBT
It's a protected characteristic.

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MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/10/2025 21:53

Sunsetswimming · 01/10/2025 21:52

Or let people support marginalised groups however they wish. The rainbow is an important symbol of pride which is why it’s worn. It ties in with being “out” and being seen which is why some people choose to wear it. Of course, no one has to and no one should be made to. It should be a choice but it can’t be if there’s no opportunity to wear it

Do you think people should be allowed to display any political symbol they wish at work?

Sunsetswimming · 01/10/2025 21:54

DuesToTheDirt · 01/10/2025 21:36

"We have all received new name badges and for the first time ever- an option has been provided to have a red coloured one instead of the rainbow if staff 'do not agree with LGBT+'"

The OP indicates that there is a binary choice, rainbow or red. There is no suggestion that a third type of badge is available, or that staff can choose not to wear a name badge at all.

Yes I know. I disagree with the red option “do not agree with LGBT”

CatchingtheCat · 01/10/2025 21:54

Sunsetswimming · 01/10/2025 21:52

Or let people support marginalised groups however they wish. The rainbow is an important symbol of pride which is why it’s worn. It ties in with being “out” and being seen which is why some people choose to wear it. Of course, no one has to and no one should be made to. It should be a choice but it can’t be if there’s no opportunity to wear it

LGBT is in no way marginalised. It is centred in all DEI initiatives, it is promoted across towns and cities, and in this case prioritised over everyone else on lanyards.

AguNwaanyi · 01/10/2025 21:55

CatchingtheCat · 01/10/2025 21:53

Yes, but that is a separate PC. As is sex.

Lol, as you can see, they are ALL covered as protected characteristics so that’s clearly the point, given the person I originally replied to claimed LGBT wasn’t protected.

Bikergran · 01/10/2025 21:55

I am not anti LGBTQIA+ but I would object to being made to declare my support publicly for anything. If I went to a Pride event then rainbow badges, clothing etc would be appropriate, I don't feel it should be compulsory in a work setting.

CatchingtheCat · 01/10/2025 21:55

AguNwaanyi · 01/10/2025 21:55

Lol, as you can see, they are ALL covered as protected characteristics so that’s clearly the point, given the person I originally replied to claimed LGBT wasn’t protected.

It isn’t

AguNwaanyi · 01/10/2025 21:56

CatchingtheCat · 01/10/2025 21:55

It isn’t

You’re not to be taken seriously.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/10/2025 21:57

That’s good, because I’m sure the feeling is mutual @AguNwaanyi

Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/10/2025 21:57

Why do you keep quoting things which disprove your claim?

CautiousLurker01 · 01/10/2025 21:58

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/10/2025 21:27

I would like to know this too. Mainly so I can teach my children to scream and run away if they see someone wearing it.

Just DON’T teach them to punch them in the balls if all else fails… or tweet about doing so.

ETA 🤦🏽‍♀️

PurpleAxe · 01/10/2025 21:59

Wear the rainbow, or else eh?

Sunsetswimming · 01/10/2025 21:59

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/10/2025 21:46

Nobody has suggested anything to the contrary.

Actually several posters have said LGBT is not a protected characteristic

Sunsetswimming · 01/10/2025 22:00

Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/10/2025 21:53

You keep pushing your incorrect interpretation and I’m just going to keep pointing out why you’re wrong. There is no “LGBT” cohesive protected characteristic. There are significant points of conflict due to sexual orientation being based on bio sex and some LGB people object to the grouping with trans identities. Many “trans” people are not undergoing a process to change “aspects of sex” so they do not meet the definition of gender reassignment. The word for a person with the PC of gender reassignment is a transsexual. “Non binary” identity is not recognised in the law.

www.gov.uk/discrimination-your-rights

Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/10/2025 22:00

It isn’t. I am no longer taking your posts with any degree of seriousness @Sunsetswimming

AguNwaanyi · 01/10/2025 22:00

Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/10/2025 21:57

That’s good, because I’m sure the feeling is mutual @AguNwaanyi

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CantHoldMeDown · 01/10/2025 22:01

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Chinsupmeloves · 01/10/2025 22:01

Going too far to basically say you wear this or you're against LGBT. It doesn't need to be promoted on a uniform!

nam3c4ang3 · 01/10/2025 22:02

Urgh I hate crap like this - use the badge or else you hate etc etc. why the fuck is it not ok anymore to just quietly support anymore? Why must I now use some rainbow badge?!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/10/2025 22:03

If people don’t even understand what the protected characteristics are I’m not wasting my time on their nonsense.

Shutuptrevor · 01/10/2025 22:03

whatishappening123 · 01/10/2025 20:11

I'm not dodging any point. I have no sway at all at work for company decisions

But you could wear all sorts of badges for all sorts of causes of your own volition. My teen has cancer, what if she came to your place of work and you weren’t wearing a cancer research badge, should she feel ostracised? Why does only LGBT matter?

Chinsupmeloves · 01/10/2025 22:03

Bikergran · 01/10/2025 21:55

I am not anti LGBTQIA+ but I would object to being made to declare my support publicly for anything. If I went to a Pride event then rainbow badges, clothing etc would be appropriate, I don't feel it should be compulsory in a work setting.

Agree. There are so many issues I care about, basically just equality, so to wear a badge for them all would be ridiculous 🙄

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/10/2025 22:04

Sunsetswimming · 01/10/2025 21:59

Actually several posters have said LGBT is not a protected characteristic

Well it isn't.

Sexuality (which includes L, G and B but also heterosexuals) is one.

Gender reassignment is another.

So LGBT is not a protected characteristic, although all people within this group will have the protected characteristic of sexuality (including those who are heterosexual, as many trans people are), and some of them will have the protected characteristic of gender reassignment.

Identities such as queer and non binary are not protected at all.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/10/2025 22:05

The reason many people love these badges is the opportunity it gives them to coerce and harass colleagues and service users. They should all be banned.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/10/2025 22:06

AguNwaanyi · 01/10/2025 22:00

.

Have we not all seen enough of Emma Watson's face this week?

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