Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

If your child is not Catholic

183 replies

Tiredallthetimeneedsleep · 30/09/2025 13:08

And attends a Catholic school, do you go to Holy Mass? I'm not Catholic and have received an email invite to attend Holy Mass. I'm not sure I can go as an agency worker so not sure if I'll be working anyway. Wwyd

OP posts:
GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 30/09/2025 22:37

APTPT · 30/09/2025 13:21

I'd rather shit in my hands and clap then let my kids go to any sort of faith school.

You are teaching them insincerity by sending them.

Not if you didn’t get in by claiming to be Catholic - anyone can go if the school isn’t over subscribed. And many children with EHCPs go to faith schools without claiming to be of that faith.

@Tiredallthetimeneedsleep You can choose to go or not, but I’m sure you’d be very welcome if you did. No one is likely to judge you either way.

AntiBullshit · 30/09/2025 22:38

My DD went to a catholic secondary school and everyone had to attend every Mass and assembly and religious festival etc it’s part of the school community

SixtySomething · 30/09/2025 22:38

Dudgeon · 30/09/2025 21:27

I grew up in a devoutly Catholic household in a Catholic society — educated throughout in Catholic schools. What I ‘learned’ was that a hierarchy of celibate men attempted to control women’s bodies, systematically protected their ranks from the criminal justice system when they abused their position, and failed to be, in any way, good. Forgive me for not signing my child up to that, and for teaching him that a secular morality of justice, kindness and care for others and the world is possible without hierarchy and without supernatural beliefs.

I understand what you're saying. Realistically, there have been all sorts of horrible opinions. floating around in history. It's not just the Catholic church. Society as a whole has changed.
I dont believe RC schools in the UK are teaching anything like that.

pumpkinscake · 30/09/2025 22:42

CrazyCatLady42 · 30/09/2025 13:39

Yes, they do. It is Holy Mass.

Happily lapsed Catholic, Ireland, have never in my life heard anyone call it Holy Mass. Might be different in UK.

AnneElliott · 30/09/2025 22:45

DS is Catholic but I’m not. He went to a Catholic primary school and I went to all the services that parents were invited to.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 30/09/2025 22:48

Ponderingwindow · 30/09/2025 22:35

They told me about it last year at the dinner table. How their friend who was out was having to listen to lessons about how homosexuality is a sin. The kid made jokes afterwards, but he shouldn’t have to put up with that.

No child should be hearing it either, but it is what the Catholic Church preaches.

Don't believe it.
If any school said such a thing, parents would be livid.

SixtySomething · 30/09/2025 22:50

ExtraOnions · 30/09/2025 14:53

I think saying you “Hate the Catholic Church” …. And they being happy to send a child to a school part-funded by the Catholic Church - is very hypocritical.

Embrace your Hypocrisy, instead of saying it doesn’t exist.

I agree. I can't think of anything more likely to mess with you children's heads than sending them to a Catholic school and then later tellling them yiuu hate Catholicism.
If something traumatic has happened to you, concerning Catholicism, it's important you keep it to yourself. Parents don't generally inflict 'exactly how' they have been affected by trauma on their children.
After they have left the school, it might be appropriate to hint at something of what has hapened to you. But you need to get help first to deal with yur hatred.

pumpkinscake · 30/09/2025 22:51

Onlyinthrees · 30/09/2025 22:11

I’m in Ireland. Most schools are catholic. There are very few non religious schools and they all have waiting lists a mile long. I literally had no other option. How am I a hypocrite?

I also sent my child to Catholic school in Ireland, though am an atheist. I just totally ignored any religious bits and pretended they weren't happening. It was grand! If he mentioned God or anything he heard in school, I'd just say, some people do believe that, mum and dad don't.

User5306921 · 30/09/2025 22:52

The old time I've ever heard it called "Holy Mass' is in an old Irish tv programme from the 1960s called 'The School Around The Corner' where they interviewed very young children to basically laugh at how the kids misinterpreted things. The very young children called it 'Holy Mass' and that would have caused the audience to laugh.

There is a feast day called Holy Thursday though?

Motherhubbardscupboard · 30/09/2025 22:53

In a Catholic primary school it's like attending a class assembly. Not every parent will attend, but it's nice for your child if they do have someone there. Secondary school is different, more working parents etc, and I'd say no need to attend.

ViolaPlains · 30/09/2025 22:56

Ponderingwindow · 30/09/2025 22:35

They told me about it last year at the dinner table. How their friend who was out was having to listen to lessons about how homosexuality is a sin. The kid made jokes afterwards, but he shouldn’t have to put up with that.

No child should be hearing it either, but it is what the Catholic Church preaches.

That would not be in lessons in a RC school - all the RE schemes are available for parents to see.

Have you heard that preaching in a Catholic Church?

pumpkinscake · 30/09/2025 22:56

User5306921 · 30/09/2025 22:52

The old time I've ever heard it called "Holy Mass' is in an old Irish tv programme from the 1960s called 'The School Around The Corner' where they interviewed very young children to basically laugh at how the kids misinterpreted things. The very young children called it 'Holy Mass' and that would have caused the audience to laugh.

There is a feast day called Holy Thursday though?

People do say holy communion. But not holy mass.

SixtySomething · 30/09/2025 22:57

Dudgeon · 30/09/2025 20:32

You don’t need a deity or any religious beliefs to ‘be a good person’. Adult morality does not need the stick of damnation and the carrot of heaven to motivate it.

Personally, I struggle to see how a person can make up their own system of morality. It's a lot more complicated than that. I'm sure many people who consider themselves atheists are relying on religious beliefs without realising it. After all, in our culture most rules of social morality do originate in Christianity.

ViolaPlains · 30/09/2025 22:59

Needmorelego · 30/09/2025 20:02

@ViolaPlains @BruFord I was wondering because people were saying that those who are CofE can't take communion in a Catholic service but I don't really know how different the services are and whether a non Catholic Christian would "stand out" ?
I do remember when a cousin of mine got married the bride was Catholic and it was a Catholic service. Our side (the groom) was mostly Methodist (or nothing really).
When it was time for communion only one person from our side went up. It was all a bit weird to me (the completely non religious person).

I haven’t been to a CofE service but the difference is that RCs believe in transubstantiation so it’s not just a representation or memorial of Christ but his actual body and blood.

Parker231 · 30/09/2025 23:02

SixtySomething · 30/09/2025 22:57

Personally, I struggle to see how a person can make up their own system of morality. It's a lot more complicated than that. I'm sure many people who consider themselves atheists are relying on religious beliefs without realising it. After all, in our culture most rules of social morality do originate in Christianity.

I don’t need religious rules and punishments to be a good person.

SixtySomething · 30/09/2025 23:02

User5306921 · 30/09/2025 22:32

In all my days I've never seen anyone do this. Why would someone do this?

If you don't want to take Communion, then you stay sitting down?

Do you live in the Uk?
It's a mainstream thing in the churches I know.

BruFord · 30/09/2025 23:02

Ponderingwindow · 30/09/2025 22:35

They told me about it last year at the dinner table. How their friend who was out was having to listen to lessons about how homosexuality is a sin. The kid made jokes afterwards, but he shouldn’t have to put up with that.

No child should be hearing it either, but it is what the Catholic Church preaches.

@Ponderingwindow I honestly think that’s unusual nowadays. DD (20) went to a school where there were openly gay students, it wasn’t a big deal at all. Our married gay neighbors (late 50’s) attend a local Catholic Church.

Like most religions, I imagine that there are some people with extreme, outdated beliefs and others who think differently.

Baital · 30/09/2025 23:14

DD ended up.in a Catholic school (not my first choice) and it was exceptional, the pastoral care was 100% (and made all the difference to DD).

Things like a carol service - love them, and can take part as a shared cultural experience. Mass for the sake of mass, no didn't attend and although all parents were invited there was no expectation to attend - not only faith reasons but also the practicalities of work.

DD didn't get brainwashed, we had a lot of interesting conversations and there were times we didn't agree on some things, but that is part of raising a child to think for themselves. She was exposed to different opinions and thought them through for herself, making her stronger in dealing with working it out for herself.

Onlyinthrees · 30/09/2025 23:19

EmeraldShamrock000 · 30/09/2025 22:21

Speak to the school, they'll opt them out of lessons. Saves any confusion in the future.
Obviously teach them that we have to respect each others personal views etc.
Many DC in my DS class opt it, it's not a problem.
DS is aware some DC have other beliefs and others have none, but it is all good. 🩷

Yes I was thinking about bringing it up at the next parent/ teacher meeting face to face. The reason I don’t see any reason to bring it up asap as I know a couple of the other kids have opted out but they still seem to be picking up a lot of the prayers etc anyway. They say prayers at the start and the end of the day and there are crucifixes and statues all over the school so they are aware of it regardless. There are about seven or eight of them in the class that aren’t christened and won’t be making their communion but still do the religion classes so it’s not uncommon in the school.
At the moment what they are learning is very basic. God created the world, god loves his children etc. It’s not specifically catholic as yet, just Christian. I don’t believe what they’ve learned personally as an adult (although I’ve put a lot of thought into it over the years) but I’m fairly open minded and obviously I don’t know for certain that it’s not true, plus I think a lot of people really benefit from having religious beliefs so I wouldn’t tell my dc that it’s categorically untrue because I don’t know that. Maybe they will be religious when they get older and if they are and they get comfort from that that would be great for them.

Onlyinthrees · 30/09/2025 23:22

SixtySomething · 30/09/2025 22:50

I agree. I can't think of anything more likely to mess with you children's heads than sending them to a Catholic school and then later tellling them yiuu hate Catholicism.
If something traumatic has happened to you, concerning Catholicism, it's important you keep it to yourself. Parents don't generally inflict 'exactly how' they have been affected by trauma on their children.
After they have left the school, it might be appropriate to hint at something of what has hapened to you. But you need to get help first to deal with yur hatred.

Do you live in Ireland?

BluntPlumHam · 30/09/2025 23:35

No just ask for your child to sit out.

Mcoco · 30/09/2025 23:49

You are not obliged to attend mass everyone will be welcome regardless of their religion. It just seems strange to choose a faith school if you are not Catholic.

samplesalequeen · 30/09/2025 23:52

BlouseyBrowne · 30/09/2025 13:33

No, I wouldn’t, unless the child wanted us to.

ps no catholic calls it ‘holy’ mass. It’s just mass.

Hahaha I was thinking that.

im a practising Catholic but my children are at a non dom school.

SixtySomething · 30/09/2025 23:54

Onlyinthrees · 30/09/2025 23:22

Do you live in Ireland?

No, what's that got to do with it?

SixtySomething · 01/10/2025 00:00

Parker231 · 30/09/2025 23:02

I don’t need religious rules and punishments to be a good person.

Agree you probably don't need formal 'punishments'.
The problem with making up your own religion is that it's completely self-centred. People are often overly kind in judging themselves , though not always. They can be blind to their own faults. We actually do need authority outside of ourselves to help us become better people and have the courage sometimes to say that what we are doing is wrong.
It's the contemporary denial of this which lies behind some social problems, like children, where parents can't say 'no'.

Swipe left for the next trending thread