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A wave of illiterate “home schooled” children

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RedSkyatNight25 · 27/09/2025 06:58

Prepared to get torn apart, and I know many homeschool because the school environment isn’t right for their children (SEN, sensory issues - whatever else) and their needs aren’t met by school with a chronic lack of SEN placements and too much demand etc. I’m not naive to that. I also know some parents with adequate resource will ensure their children have a rounded education whilst being homeschooled.

But there seems to be a movement to homeschooling by people who are simply anti establishment with a point to prove. Their grammar and communication on social media tells me they’re not equipped to homeschool a child. Not least I think the socialisation and soft skills school provides are hugely important too. I suspect most of these parents either haven’t considered the benefits of school or hugely underestimated it, especially past primary are parents really equipped to teach ALL the subjects with sufficient skill if they lack the knowledge themselves? Are they not underestimating the skills and expertise of qualified teachers?

AIBU to think it’s really concerning? These are the next generation of our workforce and infrastructure. I personally think we are hugely privileged to live in a country with free education - I know it’s not perfect but I’m not convinced homeschooling is better for a vast majority.

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Leftrightmiddle · 30/09/2025 20:54

GloryFades · 30/09/2025 20:37

The child’s not even 2, not talking in proper sentences does not indicate SEN.

It’s about opportunity - with proper education these kids might turn out educated or they may not. Without proper education they definitely won’t.

It’s not a safeguarding concern, they’re entitled to make this decision. I am entitled to think I would absolutely not have those people in charge of my children’s education, and therefore I think they’re doing their children a disservice. For what it’s worth, even with my As and A*s, degree and post grad qualification I also don’t think I’m capable of educating a child from 5 to 18, I just think for most children a professional is the best person to deliver an education, accepting that isn’t ALWAYS the best option.

I would never say anything to them, they can educate their children however they feel appropriate. I will judge them privately though ;).

Kids dont have to even go to school till 4/5 why are you even bringing a 2 yr old into this discussion as a way to diss parents choice!

Leftrightmiddle · 30/09/2025 20:55

GloryFades · 30/09/2025 20:37

The child’s not even 2, not talking in proper sentences does not indicate SEN.

It’s about opportunity - with proper education these kids might turn out educated or they may not. Without proper education they definitely won’t.

It’s not a safeguarding concern, they’re entitled to make this decision. I am entitled to think I would absolutely not have those people in charge of my children’s education, and therefore I think they’re doing their children a disservice. For what it’s worth, even with my As and A*s, degree and post grad qualification I also don’t think I’m capable of educating a child from 5 to 18, I just think for most children a professional is the best person to deliver an education, accepting that isn’t ALWAYS the best option.

I would never say anything to them, they can educate their children however they feel appropriate. I will judge them privately though ;).

And they may judge you.

You can not know these children will do better in school

GloryFades · 30/09/2025 20:59

Leftrightmiddle · 30/09/2025 20:55

And they may judge you.

You can not know these children will do better in school

They might/would do if they knew anything about my life. And they’re welcome to post anonymously on Mumsnet threads that talk about the worrying trend of state schooling your children judging my choices too..

NImumconfused · 30/09/2025 21:00

Leftrightmiddle · 29/09/2025 08:23

I didn't tell me child school traumatised them.
I watched my child deteriorating before my eyes. I watched my once bubbly child withdraw and become suicidal.

Until you meet/witness children going through traumatic response to school you will.have no idea. I hope you never have to be on suicide watch for your child

This.

The level of trauma my child suffered in primary school was a police matter, except she was unable to cope with doing the evidence interview so we couldn't pursue it. She has been hugely affected everywhere since, including taking an overdose. It was a massive safeguarding failure on the part of the school.

GloryFades · 30/09/2025 21:02

Leftrightmiddle · 30/09/2025 20:54

Kids dont have to even go to school till 4/5 why are you even bringing a 2 yr old into this discussion as a way to diss parents choice!

Because the people I’m talking about are like those referred to in the OP… who post almost daily about how important it is that their kids are going to be homeschooled. They tacitly judge my lifestyle choices every day via their social media posts. They’ll survive if I privately/anonymously think their making a bad decision!

Why are you so offended by my views?

Leftrightmiddle · 30/09/2025 21:14

GloryFades · 30/09/2025 21:02

Because the people I’m talking about are like those referred to in the OP… who post almost daily about how important it is that their kids are going to be homeschooled. They tacitly judge my lifestyle choices every day via their social media posts. They’ll survive if I privately/anonymously think their making a bad decision!

Why are you so offended by my views?

But you don't care if they judge your decisions right?

If they are truly lazy incapable parents as you state by the time the 2 year old is school age I expect they will be happy to send them to school for a break.

I care because this whole thread is slamming home education as not valid or only if x y z

We aren't slamming those who use schools

By the way my child is registered at school but school and LA want us to home Ed because they don't want to deal with SEN kids and making schools accessible
It's easier and cheeper to persuade families to home Ed.
If the government dont care about children getting an education I don't know why randoms on the Internet care so much about home Ed children

The home Ed community have given us more support, help and understanding than we have ever had from the LA or schools

GloryFades · 01/10/2025 07:12

Leftrightmiddle · 30/09/2025 21:14

But you don't care if they judge your decisions right?

If they are truly lazy incapable parents as you state by the time the 2 year old is school age I expect they will be happy to send them to school for a break.

I care because this whole thread is slamming home education as not valid or only if x y z

We aren't slamming those who use schools

By the way my child is registered at school but school and LA want us to home Ed because they don't want to deal with SEN kids and making schools accessible
It's easier and cheeper to persuade families to home Ed.
If the government dont care about children getting an education I don't know why randoms on the Internet care so much about home Ed children

The home Ed community have given us more support, help and understanding than we have ever had from the LA or schools

Great - it sounds like home ed might be the right place for your child (because of shoddy other options), and I’m sure you’re doing a great job with any choice you make.

They’re not lazy parents, they’re doting parents who will relish in the time with their children and will love to home school them. They will no doubt think I’m institutionalised for vaccinating my children, for giving them calpol, and for sending them to school. But I think their decisions are misguided, selfish and not coming from a place of critical thinking, they’re coming from a place of distrust of the government and a trad wife social media trend. They also probably judge that I’m an employee and not self employed and my own boss because I’m a cog in a machine. Their views of my life choices are clear from their social media posts.

I am not saying school is right for every child, or that home school is always a bad choice. I’m saying that sometimes home schooling is doing the child a disservice and it’s not a decision that should be taken lightly in any case.

I would be judging you too if you were saying it’s more important that your child learns baking and they should be running around outside not in a classroom for 5 hours a day and that’s why you think you’re a better educator than the school system is, or that you don’t want your child indoctrinated by the government’s curriculum when you know better. Because that’s just a return to Victorian times when children were absolutely not better served.

Kimura · 06/10/2025 04:19

GagMeWithASpoon · 29/09/2025 07:27

Depends what you consider genuine trauma.
Bullying apparently doesn’t count .

What about sexual assault and sexual harassment, peer on peer abuse , witnessing or being the victim of violence in the classroom?

Bullying can absolutely count, at the extreme end of the scale. But we're talking edge cases.

But there's too many parents who recoil at the mere mention of bullying. They blow a bit of schoolyard nonsense up into something it's not, and their kids react accordingly. They drag them out of school, go running to the head teacher about safeguarding...

I don't want to be the 'back in my day' person...but when did we stop teaching kids to stand up to bullies?

Sexual assault, obviously. The vast, vast majority of children will not experience this in school though.

Witnessing/being the victim of violence? Very much depends. Being or seeing someone get stabbed? Yes, absolutely. How often does that happen though?

Having a fight? No. Getting a hiding in front of your mates is upsetting/embarrassing, but unless something awful happens, we shouldn't be chucking words like trauma around.

Leftrightmiddle · 06/10/2025 07:42

Kimura · 06/10/2025 04:19

Bullying can absolutely count, at the extreme end of the scale. But we're talking edge cases.

But there's too many parents who recoil at the mere mention of bullying. They blow a bit of schoolyard nonsense up into something it's not, and their kids react accordingly. They drag them out of school, go running to the head teacher about safeguarding...

I don't want to be the 'back in my day' person...but when did we stop teaching kids to stand up to bullies?

Sexual assault, obviously. The vast, vast majority of children will not experience this in school though.

Witnessing/being the victim of violence? Very much depends. Being or seeing someone get stabbed? Yes, absolutely. How often does that happen though?

Having a fight? No. Getting a hiding in front of your mates is upsetting/embarrassing, but unless something awful happens, we shouldn't be chucking words like trauma around.

For autistic children the trauma isn't from major events like this it can be from the environment being unsuitable every single day.
For my child the trauma was because they didn't understand the environment. They were shamed and punished for autistic behaviour (ie flapping/rocking). They didn't understand why the teacher shouted and couldn't cope with knowing they could be shouted at by an adult at anytime and not know why it how to prevent this happening. They didn't understand the work or how to get the questions right, they knew if they asked they would be told off or told to just get on with it. They couldn't drink in case they needed the toilet and the teacher said no. They were scared of being asked a question they couldn't answer. They had experience of telling the teacher they were unwell and being told to stop telling lies, to get on with their work or a I don't want to hear it response.
All thee things happening day after day by the adults meant to keep them safe made them feel unsafe, us forcing them in day after day despite them telling us the above. The school promising X if they came in then not providing it or completely denying they even agreed to the adjustments meant that my child learn that adults in schools couldnt be trusted. It left me child with physical systems that are obviously trauma from school.

Yes this may not be what all children experience but for some children the whole environment is not suitable and it causes so much damage

NessShaness · 06/10/2025 10:20

Leftrightmiddle · 06/10/2025 07:42

For autistic children the trauma isn't from major events like this it can be from the environment being unsuitable every single day.
For my child the trauma was because they didn't understand the environment. They were shamed and punished for autistic behaviour (ie flapping/rocking). They didn't understand why the teacher shouted and couldn't cope with knowing they could be shouted at by an adult at anytime and not know why it how to prevent this happening. They didn't understand the work or how to get the questions right, they knew if they asked they would be told off or told to just get on with it. They couldn't drink in case they needed the toilet and the teacher said no. They were scared of being asked a question they couldn't answer. They had experience of telling the teacher they were unwell and being told to stop telling lies, to get on with their work or a I don't want to hear it response.
All thee things happening day after day by the adults meant to keep them safe made them feel unsafe, us forcing them in day after day despite them telling us the above. The school promising X if they came in then not providing it or completely denying they even agreed to the adjustments meant that my child learn that adults in schools couldnt be trusted. It left me child with physical systems that are obviously trauma from school.

Yes this may not be what all children experience but for some children the whole environment is not suitable and it causes so much damage

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This is exactly what my child experienced in school, and I’m sorry your child went through it too x

spicetails · 06/10/2025 12:15

NessShaness · 06/10/2025 10:20

This is exactly what my child experienced in school, and I’m sorry your child went through it too x

bith my children experienced similar.

The attitude from the school was ‘well, we’re all a big autistic, aren’t we?’ ‘Yoir child isn’t two years behind and that’s the threshold for support/diagnosis pathway’ ‘there’s nothing wrong with your child’ ‘well, we don’t notice whay you’re telling us’ ‘theyre fine in school’ ‘we know what autism looks like, and hthis isn’t it’ ‘coearly theres problems at home’

GagMeWithASpoon · 06/10/2025 17:49

Kimura · 06/10/2025 04:19

Bullying can absolutely count, at the extreme end of the scale. But we're talking edge cases.

But there's too many parents who recoil at the mere mention of bullying. They blow a bit of schoolyard nonsense up into something it's not, and their kids react accordingly. They drag them out of school, go running to the head teacher about safeguarding...

I don't want to be the 'back in my day' person...but when did we stop teaching kids to stand up to bullies?

Sexual assault, obviously. The vast, vast majority of children will not experience this in school though.

Witnessing/being the victim of violence? Very much depends. Being or seeing someone get stabbed? Yes, absolutely. How often does that happen though?

Having a fight? No. Getting a hiding in front of your mates is upsetting/embarrassing, but unless something awful happens, we shouldn't be chucking words like trauma around.

When is the last time you’ve spent a considerable time in a school?

You keep saying hardly any kids experience x or y, is that based on data? Personal experience? Or just assumptions?

Considering the number of home schooled children is only 100k ish, that’s hardly any compared to the children in school. Negligible really , by your standards.

sashh · 07/10/2025 08:08

Elleherd · 29/09/2025 08:51

There's a few variations. Words, sayings, and useage change over time.

Short version: A stool pigeon is also a decoy, and Kid Creole and the coconuts made the term fashionable as it's usage as an informer for a time in the 1980's, but it's usage very much predates that.

Long version: It first formally appeared with both words together around 1820 as 'stale pigeon', with stale believed to derive from the Frence 'estale' - a decoy that was used to entice hawks into a net. And 'pigeon' a term for a gullible individual who believed whatever they where told.

(there is an almost certainly incorrect etymology regarding a passenger pigeon hunting practice in the US, combined with the 16thC imported English word 'stoale' for a tree stump, claimed in the US in the 1870's)

But the two words appearing side by side thoroughly predate the phrase.

In the 15thC it's in the English language as a 'stale', a creature who baits or entraps another' as in Shakespeare’s The Tempest, when Prospero demands of Ariel:
“The trumpery in my house, go bring it hither for stale to catch these thieves.”

An alternative spelling was 'stall' appearing in records to describe the decoy who distracts, so that the pickpocket can get in to rob the target. Actually still in use with 'stall' or 'stalling for time.'

The decoy got exactly the same sentence as the pickpocket, yet far less of the spoils, and is thus described as a 'pickpockets pigeon' - a foolish or gullible person already, but in this usage one that becomes a decoy.

The decoy often turned on their pickpocket to save themselves when caught, and by 1840 is being referred to as a 'stale pigeon', which starts to be spelt as 'stool pigeon' and the verbs 'stool' and 'stooling' are in use for treacherous informing, as well as 'stall' and 'stalling' for decoying behaviors.

By the 1920's it's become the slang word 'stoolie' for an informer, and a 'stool pigeon' in America, is entirely used other than in hunting circles, to describe a criminal informer, but in England it is still in use as both, especially during WW1 meaning either a decoy or informer.

In the 1960's 'stool pigeon' is in use mainly only appearing in slang, as either an informer, or for a male using decoy tactics to put women on the back foot defending themselves. (argued as to if this emerged from feminists, or prostitutes)
The chess board saying with 'stool pigeon' as don't bother arguing with a 'foolish decoy', was in use during the 1972 Boris Fischer vs Spassky chess tournaments, and is believed to have emerged from Russian Jewish diaspora circles when Fischer foolishly chose to use antisemitism as decoying behavior to deflect any possible notice of his Jewish ancestry and was known for eccentric behaviors, including allegedly sweeping the pieces from the board, thus not worth playing with, regardless of his popularity.

Thank you, fascinating.

Leftrightmiddle · 07/10/2025 08:26

A question for those against home education

If you had to choose between home education or your child becoming suicidal by attending school..which would you choose?
The literacy levels are really not relevant as children who will struggle with literacy at home will.lilely struggle at school..schools are not set up to manage children who are at different levels to the norm. So if your child struggles to grasp something at the pace of the class they don't usually have the time or resources to help so child just falls further behind.

queenofarles · 07/10/2025 09:28

Leftrightmiddle · 07/10/2025 08:26

A question for those against home education

If you had to choose between home education or your child becoming suicidal by attending school..which would you choose?
The literacy levels are really not relevant as children who will struggle with literacy at home will.lilely struggle at school..schools are not set up to manage children who are at different levels to the norm. So if your child struggles to grasp something at the pace of the class they don't usually have the time or resources to help so child just falls further behind.

It can’t just be either this or that, a child at this very fragile stage won’t benefit in either.
for one , I can’t provide the proper educational attention , nor would I want to isolate him at home , I think it would Mentally and emotionally cause more harm than good.
after discussion with professionals, educators , school counsellors, mental health workers , will see the best plan forward , if school can’t provide me with the support needed , then will move him to another school.
I know this is not the answer most want but this is what I’d do.

NoEyeDeere · 07/10/2025 09:38

YANBU.

Someone I know started home “schooling” because her child was on the verge of getting expelled anyway. No matter what happened at school it was always the schools fault. Or the other kids fault. Actually this person just CBA parenting or following through with consequences and the child ruled the home.

The child does the bare minimum of work at home because the parents do the bare minimum of “schooling”.

God knows what will happen when GCSE time comes round. Luckily the parents aren’t short financially so it won’t matter too much if the kid can’t get a job.

DonaldBiden · 07/10/2025 10:10

Kimura · 06/10/2025 04:19

Bullying can absolutely count, at the extreme end of the scale. But we're talking edge cases.

But there's too many parents who recoil at the mere mention of bullying. They blow a bit of schoolyard nonsense up into something it's not, and their kids react accordingly. They drag them out of school, go running to the head teacher about safeguarding...

I don't want to be the 'back in my day' person...but when did we stop teaching kids to stand up to bullies?

Sexual assault, obviously. The vast, vast majority of children will not experience this in school though.

Witnessing/being the victim of violence? Very much depends. Being or seeing someone get stabbed? Yes, absolutely. How often does that happen though?

Having a fight? No. Getting a hiding in front of your mates is upsetting/embarrassing, but unless something awful happens, we shouldn't be chucking words like trauma around.

I remember another thread on here where a poster started talking about “just stand up to the bully “/hit the bully back.
No appreciation of the fact the bully is potentially twice the size and strength of the victim.

Even if they’re the same age there’s 7 year olds the size of the average ten year old and other 7 year olds the size of the average 4 year old.

Sometimes the beloved “stand up to the bully” just results in an absolute leathering by the bully

Leftrightmiddle · 07/10/2025 11:47

queenofarles · 07/10/2025 09:28

It can’t just be either this or that, a child at this very fragile stage won’t benefit in either.
for one , I can’t provide the proper educational attention , nor would I want to isolate him at home , I think it would Mentally and emotionally cause more harm than good.
after discussion with professionals, educators , school counsellors, mental health workers , will see the best plan forward , if school can’t provide me with the support needed , then will move him to another school.
I know this is not the answer most want but this is what I’d do.

We tried other schools, we tried mental health, education support literally tried everything. The LA do not want to know..they refuse to fund suitable education. The schools.refuse reasonable adjustments

I understand it's hard for people without lived experience to understand but for many families like ours home ed is the only option left..
Incidentally, the LA and school also didn't care if the learnt and progressed with literacy and numeracy either.
In our case learning these skills didn't happen in school despite us begging for support.

Leftrightmiddle · 11/10/2025 08:39

Do you know the thing that annoys me.

Schools put up banners saying X number achieved grades a-c etc but there is no recognition for the face this is because X number of pupils data doesn't show. The.kids not entered for exams the kids off rolled by pressure on parents.

The LA have campaigns about the importance of attendance but they don't admit to their failings.

Where is the data like in LA X in 2025 this number of pupils got grades a-c
But
We had 3 successful suicides from pupils who weren't protected or having needs met. In addition we have had 29 suicide attempts which has resulted in parents being referred to CAHMS for.a 3 year wait
17 families are in poverty due to one parent losing job due to school.not.meeting their child's needs
13 families have been illegally off rolled by the LA
3 families have had a parent have a breakdown due to how difficult the LA has made it through not supporting their child.

Only 7 families took us to tribunal and won because we were unlawfully denying support. This coat is more than if we had just provided support but we have all.denied this support to 20.other families who we have gaslit and oppressed to such a degree that they are so exhausted they haven't taken us to tribunal
If they could muster the energy we know they would.win too but we don't really care about any of the kids or their families.

We know the costs to other services will.be much higher because we haven't provided what the child needs in education but we don't care be abuse we saved some.money by damaging lives

LittleYellowQueen · 11/10/2025 17:00

Leftrightmiddle · 11/10/2025 08:39

Do you know the thing that annoys me.

Schools put up banners saying X number achieved grades a-c etc but there is no recognition for the face this is because X number of pupils data doesn't show. The.kids not entered for exams the kids off rolled by pressure on parents.

The LA have campaigns about the importance of attendance but they don't admit to their failings.

Where is the data like in LA X in 2025 this number of pupils got grades a-c
But
We had 3 successful suicides from pupils who weren't protected or having needs met. In addition we have had 29 suicide attempts which has resulted in parents being referred to CAHMS for.a 3 year wait
17 families are in poverty due to one parent losing job due to school.not.meeting their child's needs
13 families have been illegally off rolled by the LA
3 families have had a parent have a breakdown due to how difficult the LA has made it through not supporting their child.

Only 7 families took us to tribunal and won because we were unlawfully denying support. This coat is more than if we had just provided support but we have all.denied this support to 20.other families who we have gaslit and oppressed to such a degree that they are so exhausted they haven't taken us to tribunal
If they could muster the energy we know they would.win too but we don't really care about any of the kids or their families.

We know the costs to other services will.be much higher because we haven't provided what the child needs in education but we don't care be abuse we saved some.money by damaging lives

A-fucking-men.

Well said.

Hepzibar · 12/10/2025 08:31

winewolfhowls · 27/09/2025 08:48

There is a clear difference between those parents who help their kids get where they need to be, in a job and able to live independently, and those who let their kids stay in their room on the internet and they do nothing educational for years.

How the first type succeed is usually, but not always, by entering their kids for GCSEs that they sit in a school or other centre. They do fine. They are very involved in local networks and I think of these as the Mumsnet type homeschoolers. The kids eventually join a uni course or apprenticeship.

The second type create socially anxious young adults with mental health issues, no qualifications or experiences and they struggle to adapt to returning to education in their late teens or young adult life. They are at risk of being victims of,and also perpetrators of crime and issues relating to safeguarding.
If you had met some of these kids, as I have in my job, you would definitely advocate for extremely strict monitoring of home education.

To be honest, home schooling seems to be these two poles, in my professional or personal life I have not met anyone in the middle. (Disclaimer: this is all opinion based on my experience).

Absolutely agree with this @winewolfhowls
I work in FE (16-18) College. The number of EHE in our local authority has been steadily rising.
Many have had a poor experience in school , both students and parents. Some schools systems are intensely punitive, and harsh, imposing fines and court. many pull their children out to avoid this (rightly or wrongly). Many have had a similar experience with their own lack of education. There is also the knock- on effect, schools find once one family does it, others follow.

These young people are being let down, by parents and by schools. Regardless of the amount of support and adjustments we (college) put in place, the overwhelming majority are unable to manage in mainstream. The NEET numbers are still high and if they are not in education or training -where are they? Massively at risk of a whole host of safeguarding concerns.

Leftrightmiddle · 12/10/2025 10:09

Hepzibar · 12/10/2025 08:31

Absolutely agree with this @winewolfhowls
I work in FE (16-18) College. The number of EHE in our local authority has been steadily rising.
Many have had a poor experience in school , both students and parents. Some schools systems are intensely punitive, and harsh, imposing fines and court. many pull their children out to avoid this (rightly or wrongly). Many have had a similar experience with their own lack of education. There is also the knock- on effect, schools find once one family does it, others follow.

These young people are being let down, by parents and by schools. Regardless of the amount of support and adjustments we (college) put in place, the overwhelming majority are unable to manage in mainstream. The NEET numbers are still high and if they are not in education or training -where are they? Massively at risk of a whole host of safeguarding concerns.

Don't blame the parents.if schools were suitable for autistic and sen kids then less people would.be forced to EHE.
The other issue we have is the stupid policy of having to do English and maths at college again and agin if you don't pass GCSE in this subject
.

My child.has a amazing aptitude for one area and wants to do this in college.. but the school.amd LA has massively failed them and left severe trauma. The would excel in college if they can attend and focus on this subject but as they will.have to also attend maths and English classes alongside the course we know they will not attend..

This wasn't the case years ago but is now

winewolfhowls · 12/10/2025 14:10

Leftrightmiddle · 12/10/2025 10:09

Don't blame the parents.if schools were suitable for autistic and sen kids then less people would.be forced to EHE.
The other issue we have is the stupid policy of having to do English and maths at college again and agin if you don't pass GCSE in this subject
.

My child.has a amazing aptitude for one area and wants to do this in college.. but the school.amd LA has massively failed them and left severe trauma. The would excel in college if they can attend and focus on this subject but as they will.have to also attend maths and English classes alongside the course we know they will not attend..

This wasn't the case years ago but is now

I don't mean to be confrontational but the majority of jobs DO need a GCSE pass, so resitting is necessary. The majority of courses will require written communication to complete assessment portfolios even in more practical subjects such as art. In the trades to satisfy health and safety requirements you might need a GCSE in maths (for example electricians).
If you believe your child has reached the ceiling of their maths and English ability then if they have an EHCP, you should speak to the SENCO or equivalent at college. However, they won't be able to progress beyond a certain level.

(I do think it's daft many have to keep doing these subjects when they will never pass but they need to be given the chance).

Once you are 19 you can do adult classes in maths and English which are often smaller with a calmer atmosphere. Perhaps this might be a good option for some?

winewolfhowls · 12/10/2025 14:11

Also, I meant to say I'm very sorry that your child suffered trauma, that must be so difficult.

Leftrightmiddle · 12/10/2025 14:57

winewolfhowls · 12/10/2025 14:10

I don't mean to be confrontational but the majority of jobs DO need a GCSE pass, so resitting is necessary. The majority of courses will require written communication to complete assessment portfolios even in more practical subjects such as art. In the trades to satisfy health and safety requirements you might need a GCSE in maths (for example electricians).
If you believe your child has reached the ceiling of their maths and English ability then if they have an EHCP, you should speak to the SENCO or equivalent at college. However, they won't be able to progress beyond a certain level.

(I do think it's daft many have to keep doing these subjects when they will never pass but they need to be given the chance).

Once you are 19 you can do adult classes in maths and English which are often smaller with a calmer atmosphere. Perhaps this might be a good option for some?

What is the benefit of keeping beingade.to.do something you won't pass? This is awful for self esteem and mental health.
Maybe if schools actually met needs of children in school they would have the opportunity to learn..
Instead school is destroying the mental health of so many autistic young people

My child doesn't need GCSE English or math for the field they want to go into. They are very skilled in this area. The skill /. knowledge won't be enhanced by English or math at all.
But school has caused them so much trauma that these subjects cause unbelievable anxiety and flashbacks to trauma

Maybe they will one day be able to do these subjects as adults on their own terms but making them compulsory alongside college means that college becomes unaccessible.

Don't make me laugh getting a appropriate EHCP is virtually impossible