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Kids missed 3wks school, council taking me to court!

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Questionairballoon · 26/09/2025 12:58

Hi all,

I am very unsure about what to do.

DC aged 6 and 8. I took them on holiday this summer. missed the last 3 weeks of school (July 2025).

For context, their attendance is always good. Only time they ever miss school is when poorly. They enjoy going. Last time we took them on holiday they were 3 and 5 and they missed maybe 2 weeks of nursery/school.

Before we left this time, I emailed the head teacher and spoke with the staff partly to apologise and also to find out what they might miss for the last 3 weeks so I could cover with them if needed. For what it’s worth, both kids do well in school. Teachers wished us happy hols and we left on a positive note.

The holiday was 2 weeks in Europe and 2 weeks in America. They had some fantastic experiences and got to meet relatives who live abroad. We were back in August, they had almost a month to recoup and then back to school business as usual!

We expected a fine but got nothing. This week, I’ve received a court order telling me to expect paperwork where I’ll be “pleading guilty or not guilty”.

I’m gobsmacked tbh. Has anyone been in this situation? Any advice at all? I don’t even know what to say!

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Pandora2011 · 26/09/2025 16:52

Timbukpoo · 26/09/2025 16:41

OP I’m really saddened to read this. To everyone else, it’s not black or white and the government should really re-think this! We regularly took (in private school) and take our children on holiday in term time, both worked super hard and got into grammar schools but eventually chose private school as they both got academic scholarships and so we could continue to take them out of school for holidays that suit us (not around exam time of course) and they are thriving. Just because children attend school 100% of the time doesn’t mean they are actively engaged and learning every single aspect of the curriculum, and vice versa - kids who miss school are not always missing out on education - It should be taken case by case and if the kids are falling behind then yes the parents should be taken to court as a result. But if the kids are doing well then why? The government just want the mass majority to follow rules like sheep without actually thinking does it make sense to fine or take parents to court when there is no justification? Thank goodness we are in a private school!

Completely agree! I live in Scotland and it’s so much more relaxed here about taking children out of school for holiday’s term time.. unless it’s a regular occurrence of course. I’m completely gobsmacked over some of the responses on here!

TFICoffeetime · 26/09/2025 16:53

Questionairballoon · 26/09/2025 16:48

It’s definitely not the schools fault. I might’ve missed messages blaming the school but I can state with confidence it’s not their fault at all.

I am just shocked that this has resulted in a court order rather than a fine. That is all.

Other people stating that on your behalf.
I'm glad you don't. Please take advice from those offering reason who understand these processes. I'm afraid some people would see you launch a campaign. You will do what's best for your children. Take advice. Accept judges. Please don't overworry. As a poster has said you will likely not attend court and accepting responsibility will mean any fine is in the lesser bracket. No court will send you away or impose the highest penalty of fine if you are accepting of the situation. I really hope you get good advice. I think you will be reassured by the paperwork.
There are much bigger things the magistrates will have on. But accepting you should have gone about it differently will do you only good.

ItsAWonderfulLifeforMe · 26/09/2025 16:53

Op I don’t know ANYONE at all that has taken their children out for 3 weeks, this is very unusual and I’m surprised that your school didn’t advise you against this more. Or didn’t your parent friends express surprise at your decision?!!

Digdongdoo · 26/09/2025 16:53

TFICoffeetime · 26/09/2025 16:45

The vast majority...yes please let's have a system where children can be taken out of school with no consequences for long holidays or just down time.
And those systems end up with a lot more abuse, FGM, how ridiculous you would pose a scenario that children can just leave school to go away for 3 weeks whenever they want.
Great excuse for the Dad that's just knocked child's mum against wall and got caught in crossfire. Will just say we are off on holiday for 3 weeks because that's allowed.
Honestly noone wants children going off whenever. A class full of 30 children and they all go away for THREE weeks whenever and do it again whenever they want. Do you want a standardised education or would you rather it's just a hitch potch

That's a leap and a half and a lot of unsubstantiated claims.
Where else has fines for one off holidays? Does the rest of Europe or America for example have enormous issues with FGM because they don't have fines?
Load of hyperbole. There's plenty of space for a bit of flexibility. Plenty of other places manage just fine.

Starwarsepisode3 · 26/09/2025 16:53

Everyonceinawhile · 26/09/2025 16:52

I don’t think you will get this, if you were doing it continually then maybe but you are not, the kids also have very good attendance aside from these holidays and are doing well at school,

If she’s found guilty at court she will have a criminal record (sorry op).

Theboymolefoxandhorse · 26/09/2025 16:53

@Questionairballoon I also am surprised you have a court date but as the link that the 1st poster put up shows the options are a parenting order, community order, jail or a fine. I highly suspect and hope that you will just get a fine.

i also am of the view that a few days at the end of term to go away won’t damage the children’s education. My child is not in school yet but I understand the thought process of the fine being cheaper than the holiday but I suppose they have to draw the line somewhere and some of these rules are in place to help children and families who are struggling where safeguarding is a genuine issue.

I suspect most of the negative posts are from people who find it unfair that they play by the rules and don’t get to have a cheaper holiday or see family or whatever they could be doing when they’re sending their kids to school only for someone who has not played by the rules to then complain about having repercussions. I’m not saying I an agree with criminalising taking your kids out of school (especially when you can just homeschool them with very little oversight)but I do understand other people’s frustrations. The rules and consequences are clear and transparent. You’ve broken them and unfortunately need to deal with the consequences. Citizens advice have a list of lawyers that offer free or pro bono legal aid / advice so if you want to get more info or help for the actual court date that would be a good place to start. Good luck🤍

UnicornLand1 · 26/09/2025 16:54

Next time take them only for up to a week and say they're sick.
Never ever admit that you're going on a holiday. The lady who did it in my school, because she wanted to be honest, had to pay a fine. Other people, who said their kids were off sick, were all right.

GypsyQueeen · 26/09/2025 16:54

ZingyLemonMoose · 26/09/2025 16:46

You’d need to go to court to get a prohibited steps order to stop him doing it, unfortunately

In my experience this won't apply to you if you're separated. You can't stop him. Just make it clear to the school that you're separated and you don't agree with the holiday.

CountryQueen · 26/09/2025 16:55

Everyonceinawhile · 26/09/2025 16:52

I don’t think you will get this, if you were doing it continually then maybe but you are not, the kids also have very good attendance aside from these holidays and are doing well at school,

Erm, that’s not how it works

TFICoffeetime · 26/09/2025 16:57

Mumtobabyhavoc · 26/09/2025 16:49

How's the view from up there?

Really clear and rational.

Starwarsepisode3 · 26/09/2025 16:58

GypsyQueeen · 26/09/2025 16:54

In my experience this won't apply to you if you're separated. You can't stop him. Just make it clear to the school that you're separated and you don't agree with the holiday.

Yip. I didn’t know til it was too late. And I got fined along with him. Which I feel is grossly unfair.

TammyinCork · 26/09/2025 16:59

I'm a Brit living in Ireland and here, they don't fine parents for taking their kids out of school during term-time, or take them to court. But after 20 days' absence, the school is obliged to report to TUSLA, the Irish child protection agency. And we would never take our son out of school during term time when there are plenty of school holidays!

GypsyQueeen · 26/09/2025 16:59

SwingTheMonkey · 26/09/2025 16:52

They absolutely do, if their LA issue a fine. It’s the law. Regardless of what type of school your child attends.

Are you sure?? I've never heard of a case of a parent being prosecuted.

Flakey99 · 26/09/2025 17:00

@TFICoffeetime

Maybe it will make other parents that have the financial means to go on long expensive vacations realise that these rules are for everyone.

But that’s exactly the point, they’re not the same rules for everyone, are they? 🤷🏻‍♀️

If you live in NI, Scotland or Wales, the rules around school attendance are different and far more flexible.

If your children go to a Private school, the rules don’t apply there either. So as usual, wealthy parents can do what they like.

If you choose to home school your kids, the rules don’t apply.

So essentially, it’s the children from poorer families that are being targeted by these rules and Labour should look at scrapping them.

Starwarsepisode3 · 26/09/2025 17:01

GypsyQueeen · 26/09/2025 16:59

Are you sure?? I've never heard of a case of a parent being prosecuted.

Edited

I was actually divorced, and I got fined along with him.

you’ve edited your post and now my comment looks as if it doesn’t make sense.

MightyDandelionEsq · 26/09/2025 17:01

No wonder home schooling rates are rising.

I agree that it’s disruptive to take kids out of school for long periods but a criminal record?

It just hits a sour note in the mouth that the state has more control over your children than you do.

MightyDandelionEsq · 26/09/2025 17:02

Flakey99 · 26/09/2025 17:00

@TFICoffeetime

Maybe it will make other parents that have the financial means to go on long expensive vacations realise that these rules are for everyone.

But that’s exactly the point, they’re not the same rules for everyone, are they? 🤷🏻‍♀️

If you live in NI, Scotland or Wales, the rules around school attendance are different and far more flexible.

If your children go to a Private school, the rules don’t apply there either. So as usual, wealthy parents can do what they like.

If you choose to home school your kids, the rules don’t apply.

So essentially, it’s the children from poorer families that are being targeted by these rules and Labour should look at scrapping them.

Couldn’t have said it better myself.

GypsyQueeen · 26/09/2025 17:03

Starwarsepisode3 · 26/09/2025 16:58

Yip. I didn’t know til it was too late. And I got fined along with him. Which I feel is grossly unfair.

Yes, it is! You could have probably challenged it.

CountryQueen · 26/09/2025 17:03

GypsyQueeen · 26/09/2025 16:59

Are you sure?? I've never heard of a case of a parent being prosecuted.

Edited

I know someone who lost his job due to the criminal record. The kid was a school refuser, nothing to do with trying to save a few quid on a holiday.

OP is actually the first person I’ve heard of that has chosen to take her kids out for 3 solid weeks for a holiday so that’s probably why it’s uncommon.

BlueandPinkSwan · 26/09/2025 17:04

KookyRoseCrab · 26/09/2025 13:08

I really cannot answer this as I live in Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 but if it’s to party on a Spanish/Turkish island that’s a no no but to meet relatives that they may never see again that’s different, seeing how families blend together is definitely a win win

Education is important. three weeks is not acceptable for most people.

GypsyQueeen · 26/09/2025 17:04

Starwarsepisode3 · 26/09/2025 17:01

I was actually divorced, and I got fined along with him.

you’ve edited your post and now my comment looks as if it doesn’t make sense.

Edited

😅😅😅 Sorry! I'm not sure what happened there. Was replying to someone else! It makes perfect sense to me.

Colourpurplepalette · 26/09/2025 17:06

Pandora2011 · 26/09/2025 16:52

Completely agree! I live in Scotland and it’s so much more relaxed here about taking children out of school for holiday’s term time.. unless it’s a regular occurrence of course. I’m completely gobsmacked over some of the responses on here!

I live I Scotland and appalled at the lax attitude to school here. About 20% of the kids in my kids class don’t turn up on any given day because the parents are too lazy to get them out of bed. Half the class turn up after the doors have shut to start morning lessons. It’s just appalling. So entitled. Terrible parenting. And so disruptive to the rest of the class.

GypsyQueeen · 26/09/2025 17:06

CountryQueen · 26/09/2025 17:03

I know someone who lost his job due to the criminal record. The kid was a school refuser, nothing to do with trying to save a few quid on a holiday.

OP is actually the first person I’ve heard of that has chosen to take her kids out for 3 solid weeks for a holiday so that’s probably why it’s uncommon.

Sorry, I meant to reply to someone who said private school parents get prosecuted - I don't think this is correct.

TFICoffeetime · 26/09/2025 17:06

Flakey99 · 26/09/2025 17:00

@TFICoffeetime

Maybe it will make other parents that have the financial means to go on long expensive vacations realise that these rules are for everyone.

But that’s exactly the point, they’re not the same rules for everyone, are they? 🤷🏻‍♀️

If you live in NI, Scotland or Wales, the rules around school attendance are different and far more flexible.

If your children go to a Private school, the rules don’t apply there either. So as usual, wealthy parents can do what they like.

If you choose to home school your kids, the rules don’t apply.

So essentially, it’s the children from poorer families that are being targeted by these rules and Labour should look at scrapping them.

Sorry I don't think someone who has taken children to two different continents and Disneyland is from the poorest in our country. I don't think OP is even saying that.
You says it's not the same. Of course we are not the same as other countries. In the family court by the way, only Scotland different. So.goof to know facts.
Also yes believe it or not in the courts cases are taken by concerned heads in private schools too.
Please don't advise someone when you don't know those systems you are advising on
Share your views but misinformation is not helpful.

Starwarsepisode3 · 26/09/2025 17:07

GypsyQueeen · 26/09/2025 17:03

Yes, it is! You could have probably challenged it.

I did. It was rejected.

but it was back in the days of the fine being smaller - as I said I can’t remember but it was £50 or £60 quid.

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