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Kids missed 3wks school, council taking me to court!

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Questionairballoon · 26/09/2025 12:58

Hi all,

I am very unsure about what to do.

DC aged 6 and 8. I took them on holiday this summer. missed the last 3 weeks of school (July 2025).

For context, their attendance is always good. Only time they ever miss school is when poorly. They enjoy going. Last time we took them on holiday they were 3 and 5 and they missed maybe 2 weeks of nursery/school.

Before we left this time, I emailed the head teacher and spoke with the staff partly to apologise and also to find out what they might miss for the last 3 weeks so I could cover with them if needed. For what it’s worth, both kids do well in school. Teachers wished us happy hols and we left on a positive note.

The holiday was 2 weeks in Europe and 2 weeks in America. They had some fantastic experiences and got to meet relatives who live abroad. We were back in August, they had almost a month to recoup and then back to school business as usual!

We expected a fine but got nothing. This week, I’ve received a court order telling me to expect paperwork where I’ll be “pleading guilty or not guilty”.

I’m gobsmacked tbh. Has anyone been in this situation? Any advice at all? I don’t even know what to say!

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Ontheedgeofit · 26/09/2025 14:58

Thepeopleversuswork · 26/09/2025 14:57

@Digdongdoo

What's wrong with teaching kids that their/our needs are a priority sometimes? Why is that a problem?
It's a not regular thing. It's a one off. Sometimes we all should put ourselves first. I seriously don't get why you think that is wrong.

Taking a three week holiday during school time isn't a "need". It's a "want". How are kids supposed to learn the difference if their parents can't tell?

And its not a one-off. The OP by her own admission did this in 2022.

In 2022 when the kids were 3 and 5….

Why don’t we just hand our kids over to the government to raise when they pop out?

Namechangerage · 26/09/2025 14:59

Digdongdoo · 26/09/2025 14:36

The rules have changed since we had kids though. Not everyone can just opt out of state school, there's no viable alternative. It's really unreasonable to have a single very rigid system. And we wonder why we have a mental health crisis amongst young people...

The system isn’t that rigid though? OP could have done 10 days. She chose to do 3 weeks.

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 26/09/2025 14:59

Starwarsepisode3 · 26/09/2025 14:51

I see someone has beat me to the comment about the DBS. I hope it won’t affect your future employment prospects or the employment if you DH OP.

Seems you should have checked a bit more thoroughly.

I’m bitter as fuck because I got fined way back when and I wasn’t the one that took them away it was my ex husband. I think it was £50 or £60 quid though it wasn’t thousands.

I never understood that one either.

If parents are seperated how can you hold the other reponsible for taking them out - I suppose you could get diffcult about passports but they could do a UK hoilday anyway.

The emphasis on attendace is pretty awful anyway - kids get ill and some schools with attendance problems often pick on the wrong families - not ones who don't care but one with ill or distressed kids.

Last primary did class attendance and it lead to one sick kid - serious underlying conditions - being bullied because their class missed out on rewards due to them - that lead to complaints and not just from the ill kids parents.

OP should have done more research - then her choice to do three weeks holiday would have been more informed but she didn't and now has to see where that leads.

Offloadontome · 26/09/2025 15:01

You're getting such a hard time on here.
People take their kids on holiday all the time in term time, and in my opinion it's not a big deal. It's just a money spinner for the LA, nothing to do with children's access to education - otherwise private schools would also have to report / fine. But guess what? They don't! Not that their children would need to go out of term time though, if they can afford private school.
My friend works in a primary and the kids are often away in other countries for 6 weeks at a time on a regular basis, for family visits.
We took our reception aged child out for a week then last week of term before Easter - the teacher said they barely do anything that week anyway and was fine with it.
I know rules are stricter now, but if it's a first offence I'd have thought you'd just get fined. I don't think 3 weeks at the end of term, as a first offence, is that awful.
I plan to take my two out in a couple of years to do a big holiday, and whatever they miss in school I'm sure won't harm them for life. I think it's only an issue if the child is struggling or already has poor attendance tbh. Mine don't. Presuming yours don't either.
Sorry no advice though! I think this whole thing of fines and prosecution for taking our own kids on holiday is just fucking ridiculous tbh.

popcornandpotatoes · 26/09/2025 15:01

You're gobsmacked? What planet are you on!

MadeInGrimsby · 26/09/2025 15:01

twilightermummy · 26/09/2025 14:54

To be fair, I'm actually surprised that you weren't just hit with a simple fine.
I really think the school holidays system needs overhauling in general. Shorter holidays but more frequently would potentially mean cheaper breaks particularly if schools in different areas broke up at different times. I know of course this would be difficult for working parents but the long 6 weeks break is tricky too.
Going back in September is a nightmare for my children with SEN. It's hard for teachers too. I was a secondary teacher and it's hard getting everybody back to where they were after that long a break.
Anyway, that's just my 2 pence.

It would mean more expensive breaks surely, if holidays were shorter? Also, different holidays in different areas does make things difficult for families, although in Scotland the holidays are different to England.

stichguru · 26/09/2025 15:01

You took them out for three weeks - you did the crime, live with the consequences.

Digdongdoo · 26/09/2025 15:01

Thepeopleversuswork · 26/09/2025 14:57

@Digdongdoo

What's wrong with teaching kids that their/our needs are a priority sometimes? Why is that a problem?
It's a not regular thing. It's a one off. Sometimes we all should put ourselves first. I seriously don't get why you think that is wrong.

Taking a three week holiday during school time isn't a "need". It's a "want". How are kids supposed to learn the difference if their parents can't tell?

And its not a one-off. The OP by her own admission did this in 2022.

Define "need"... my DC have family abroad. Seeing them sometimes I would consider a need. Even if it only a want, are we not allowed wants? I don't want my kids growing up thinking the rules are the only important thing. There are no rewards for following all the rules. Balance is important.
It is a one off. Her children were not compulsory school age then.

Digdongdoo · 26/09/2025 15:01

Namechangerage · 26/09/2025 14:59

The system isn’t that rigid though? OP could have done 10 days. She chose to do 3 weeks.

The system doesn't allow any days.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 26/09/2025 15:02

Balloonhearts · 26/09/2025 13:10

There is nothing you can do, just plead guilty. Surely you checked the legal ramifications of taking them out for the best part of a month?

From what I just read you could get a fine of up to £2,500, a community order or a jail sentence up to 3 months. The court could also give you a Parenting Order.

No, there is something g OP can do - and that's get legal advice

Ontheedgeofit · 26/09/2025 15:03

Offloadontome · 26/09/2025 15:01

You're getting such a hard time on here.
People take their kids on holiday all the time in term time, and in my opinion it's not a big deal. It's just a money spinner for the LA, nothing to do with children's access to education - otherwise private schools would also have to report / fine. But guess what? They don't! Not that their children would need to go out of term time though, if they can afford private school.
My friend works in a primary and the kids are often away in other countries for 6 weeks at a time on a regular basis, for family visits.
We took our reception aged child out for a week then last week of term before Easter - the teacher said they barely do anything that week anyway and was fine with it.
I know rules are stricter now, but if it's a first offence I'd have thought you'd just get fined. I don't think 3 weeks at the end of term, as a first offence, is that awful.
I plan to take my two out in a couple of years to do a big holiday, and whatever they miss in school I'm sure won't harm them for life. I think it's only an issue if the child is struggling or already has poor attendance tbh. Mine don't. Presuming yours don't either.
Sorry no advice though! I think this whole thing of fines and prosecution for taking our own kids on holiday is just fucking ridiculous tbh.

Good point. Why don’t private schools have to comply in the interests of the children?

Ghhssssd · 26/09/2025 15:03

Usually for a first offense I assume it's a fine? Given it's a repeated offense I assume this is why it's a prosecution?

Iloveyoubut · 26/09/2025 15:03

Ontheedgeofit · 26/09/2025 14:32

Nobody is exploiting you. Supply and demand and the resultant pricing is expected in a free market economy. Government’s interference in that happens in socialist economies.

The debate around ID cards largely centers around freedoms and civil liberties.

It’s hypocritical.

But it is, in my opinion. Just like mobile phone companies who refused to let us know when we’d paid off our physical phone and kept charging us the same rate. I get what you’re saying but if we can’t help when terms start and end and we can’t take our children out of school and we can’t afford the artificially hiked up prices that take advantage of the situation then we have to accept that our children can’t go on holiday. People don’t want to accept that, especially if they’re working full time and many people have to do the millions of jobs that pay minimum wage … so what do they do? Just hang around the park all summer in the pissing rain forever? And I’m not referring to Op here, I’m talking people who are just trying to get a week away. Supply and demand has to have some sort of limit. Remember £20 for one blue paper face mask during Covid? Is there to be no line when it comes to capitalism? And I understand what digital ID is about. Maybe one week a year as an allowance where you can take your child out of school without being penalised… could that be a solution. It’s not helpful having parents lie and say their child is sick. If the artificially hiked up prices can’t be dealt with … would a week within term time be reasonable? I don’t know.

MrsKeats · 26/09/2025 15:04

Quite right too. Ridiculous to take kids out for 3 weeks.

Fringegirl1 · 26/09/2025 15:05

Questionairballoon · 26/09/2025 13:05

Yes I’m reading through this site now! Have just been reading through a few resources online.

Honestly with their generally good attendance and the fact that it was the last three weeks of school (which the teachers themselves said is only important from the handover side, going into a new class etc. meeting the teachers… work-wise there’s nothing much at all happening and even my kids’ friends talked about how fun the last few days were with movies and colouring!) I just assumed it was not as bad as taking 2 weeks of leave during the middle of the school year.

We don’t take holidays during the school year but I assumed this was a less-bad possibility and the worst I’d get was a fine.

I’ve never actually been fined before (not the first holiday) so it’s not like I’ve got a record.

I mean it makes no odds it was the last 3 weeks of school- that’s classed as 3 weeks whenever they were taken.

Is this a joke post as it’s obvious you’d get penalised and court is a possible? 3 weeks is huge. Im not saying k agree with them but it’s the rules .

Questionairballoon · 26/09/2025 15:05

Legalmamaof2 · 26/09/2025 14:14

Wow OP I think you are getting a lot of undeserved stick on this. Memories are much more important than the last few weeks of term. Our children absolutely do wind down the last few weeks of terms - sports days, recapping what they have gone through already, colouring, movies, crafts, transitions days, trips out etc. please don’t be so hard on yourself - it will just be protocol and I hope you have a fair judge on the day. Please come back and let me know how you get on. X

thank you! Honestly I feel sick in my stomach thinking of a criminal record over a bloody holiday break.

i volunteer with a charity that specifically supports children and parents in my spare time, every single week. My entire career/passion has always been around children. Even my education/courses I’ve taken have always been around children! To think I’d have a criminal record for THIS is making me feel sick.

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Offloadontome · 26/09/2025 15:05

Ontheedgeofit · 26/09/2025 15:03

Good point. Why don’t private schools have to comply in the interests of the children?

Because the rich MPs that set all the rules send all their kids to private schools. Probably!

ButterPiesAreGreat · 26/09/2025 15:07

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 26/09/2025 14:59

I never understood that one either.

If parents are seperated how can you hold the other reponsible for taking them out - I suppose you could get diffcult about passports but they could do a UK hoilday anyway.

The emphasis on attendace is pretty awful anyway - kids get ill and some schools with attendance problems often pick on the wrong families - not ones who don't care but one with ill or distressed kids.

Last primary did class attendance and it lead to one sick kid - serious underlying conditions - being bullied because their class missed out on rewards due to them - that lead to complaints and not just from the ill kids parents.

OP should have done more research - then her choice to do three weeks holiday would have been more informed but she didn't and now has to see where that leads.

I absolutely loathe rewards for attendance that some schools do. I particularly hate 100% attendance rewards and class ones because not everyone has control over things like that. Schools have a responsibility to promote a culture of good attendance but I don’t agree that this is the way to do it. Most kids will get some form of cold, flu or bug each year when attending makes them feel worse and risks passing it to others.

RedToothBrush · 26/09/2025 15:07

Mischance · 26/09/2025 14:53

If one child takes three weeks off in a class of thirty they miss things. This means when the subject comes back around the teacher has to go through all the stuff they've missed possibly at disruption to all the other kids in the class.

But the OP specifically asked if there was any stuff she should be doing with the children while they were away in order to avoid the teacher having to repeat! She was told no problem, just go and have a good trip ........

Thus creating a bunch of additional work for the teacher unfairly.

The teacher shouldn't have to do this. Multiply by every child that does this.

Justwingingit2005 · 26/09/2025 15:08

I won't get into the discussion on term time holidays.
I've taken my kids out for a week term time a few years ago.

I'm wondering if you've have missed a fine letter. My understanding was it only ended up at court if you ignored the fine. I didn't think it went straight to court.

BigButtons · 26/09/2025 15:08

Questionairballoon · 26/09/2025 15:05

thank you! Honestly I feel sick in my stomach thinking of a criminal record over a bloody holiday break.

i volunteer with a charity that specifically supports children and parents in my spare time, every single week. My entire career/passion has always been around children. Even my education/courses I’ve taken have always been around children! To think I’d have a criminal record for THIS is making me feel sick.

the law is the law. just because you work with children does not mean you can take yours away from school for three weeks without permission. You had a six week holiday, just like the rest of us.

TY78910 · 26/09/2025 15:08

Three weeks is a very long time. Also, the school day consists of two sessions - AM and PM, so your children have missed 30 sessions each - that is a lot.

I appreciate that holidays in school holidays cost a lot more, but that’s life and we have to take that on the chin. School is mandatory and it’s important children attend, whether you feel they learn a lot in the last few weeks or not, it provides structure and routine and discipline.

The process is the process and when you made the decision to take your kids out of school, you should have been prepared to take the reproductions on the chin.

Ontheedgeofit · 26/09/2025 15:08

Iloveyoubut · 26/09/2025 15:03

But it is, in my opinion. Just like mobile phone companies who refused to let us know when we’d paid off our physical phone and kept charging us the same rate. I get what you’re saying but if we can’t help when terms start and end and we can’t take our children out of school and we can’t afford the artificially hiked up prices that take advantage of the situation then we have to accept that our children can’t go on holiday. People don’t want to accept that, especially if they’re working full time and many people have to do the millions of jobs that pay minimum wage … so what do they do? Just hang around the park all summer in the pissing rain forever? And I’m not referring to Op here, I’m talking people who are just trying to get a week away. Supply and demand has to have some sort of limit. Remember £20 for one blue paper face mask during Covid? Is there to be no line when it comes to capitalism? And I understand what digital ID is about. Maybe one week a year as an allowance where you can take your child out of school without being penalised… could that be a solution. It’s not helpful having parents lie and say their child is sick. If the artificially hiked up prices can’t be dealt with … would a week within term time be reasonable? I don’t know.

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People who can’t afford to go on holidays don’t go on holidays. It’s not a human right that you need the government’s intervention. In fact, governments are stopping people going on holidays because it’s interfering with the locals basic right to housing.

Most places are super crowded and unpleasant because you are being forced to travel inside times stipulated by the education system. Hardly a shortage of people going on holidays.

The less government intervention all round is what is best for society. Social engineering is a failure.

Ghhssssd · 26/09/2025 15:09

Questionairballoon · 26/09/2025 15:05

thank you! Honestly I feel sick in my stomach thinking of a criminal record over a bloody holiday break.

i volunteer with a charity that specifically supports children and parents in my spare time, every single week. My entire career/passion has always been around children. Even my education/courses I’ve taken have always been around children! To think I’d have a criminal record for THIS is making me feel sick.

If you knowingly broke the rules... You have to accept the consequences?

Mischance · 26/09/2025 15:10

Why don’t we just hand our kids over to the government to raise when they pop out?

Quite!

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