Farage to now go after deporting legal migrants

[MikeRafone]

So now we have the latest from Farage

He wants to stop leave to remain and deport legal migrants, possibly splitting families - even his own Muhammad Ziauddin Yusuf has migrant parents.

If legal migrants are deported - it will end the NHS as migrants will not want to come and work and others working I NHS will be deported, universities will suffer as many students are from abroad

Surely those with migrant family will now see it would be foolish to vote for someone that would split their family?

I reckon if Reform used "Cunty Old Grifters" as their tagline, they would still get the same votes.

I agree that legal immigration numbers are too high
i agree that migrants should not have automatic right to bring family
that they shouldn’t be able to access benefits or healthcare until paid in forecast 5 years
and I don’t agree with indefinite leave to renain

theres actually not much controversy in that

I also believe the NHS needs massive overhaul not just endless throwing money into an over consumed and wasteful system

I have never heard a British person describe themselves as a migrant. They are always expats😆
@millymollymoomoo why do you disagree with ILR. Do you think people like me should just be thrown out of the country whenever I am no “use” to you anymore? I have lived here for 30 years. Married a British man and raised dual citizens. I come from a much more affluent EU country than than the U.K., so I am not after your NHS. I am a higher rate tax payer and have paid my taxes for 30 years. I have private medical care and went home to my own country to give birth to my children so haven’t bothered the nhs much. So if I suddenly got ill, couldn’t work and needed treatment or got old and sick, you want to be free to just throw me out? Is that right?

And no I do not want British citizenship. I do not feel British, I just live here and I am fine with settled status.

Of course people with ILR cant' vote.

Reform will replace the NHS with an insurance based model. Is this really what you want? Your healthcare being at the whims of an insurance company. Delay, deny, defend.

ILR holders already cannot access benefits until they have been here 5 years and pay an NHS surcharge of £ 1000 a year.
Most people have no idea what an ILR is.
It is a route for skilled workers.

Cunty old grifter
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where are the savings being made?

do you mean by not paying 3.3million people top up wages?

is that how you understand it?

you can’t see that those jobs will become vacant- and if people aren’t doing those jobs then things grind to a holt

a surgeon isn’t any use without a clean surgical theatre to work in
a chef isn’t any use without a pot wash

I don't trust the electorate not to vote for Deform, look at how they exalt Trump and he's rad

By going for legal migrants, he will dismantle the NHS.

Moving on from immigration he has said he will get rid of the ECHR, leaving Northern Ireland fuck knows where with the GFA.

They want out of the HRA and EA10. Fucking us all over.

Workers rights will be stripped including health and safety.

He started with undocumented migration, caused by him and his fucking brexit and now he's starting on legal migration.

He's a fucking cunt and so's everyone of his MPs.

Had to read it a couple of times to let it sink in. WTF. How dare they become ill?!

Tbh is the NHS any different right now?
I waited 4+ years for a knee operation that would have saved me from needing a knee replacement op however it was cancelled 3 times with a 6-12 month wait for the rescheduled op. Now I've been told that it's too late for the original op and I now need a knee replacement but it's not bad enough to do yet so I have to wait for it to deteriorate even further and then go to the bottom of the waiting list that is currently 7 years long, oh and by the time they replace my knee I've been told ill probably need a new hip too.
I'm not the only person this or similar has happened to and its costing the NHS a fortune.

Well, that's what you get for 14 years of Tory austerity and mal-administration.

An insurance based model would not be better

This was the underlying principle behind those of us who said Shamima Begum should be brought back to Britain and tried in the British court system as all British (and hell, even non-British who commit crimes here) citizens have a right to.

We understood the implications. The chink it provides in terms of rationalising the difference in application of law to those who can claim more than one citizenship, no matter how tenuous that other citizenship claim is. It sets precedent for anything.

People with little imagination (and frankly what imagination do you really need that governments are becoming more autocratic at this point? Have you not seen Brexit? COVID lockdowns, vaccination coercion, 'online safety' act, branding protestors as terrorists and now we are heading to digital ID) think these things cannot become reality. They can. Complacency is totally unjustified.

We are going the way of the Trumpian believers.

"Ill foreigners" as you put it are mums, dads, partners of british citizens. There aren't two entirely different populations in the UK!!!!

Please, stop.and listen to yourself. Where is the decency, compassion, love, humanity? Why do you think it is ok to attack others just for being born on a different bit of soil?

What would you do if you fell in love overseas? Or had to flee a war? Would you cope? What would you do? How would you want to be treated?

But you are getting the operation. And your example though bad, is not the case in other areas of the country. Some are getting the same operation faster. Different ICB areas prioritise different things

You are not being hit with a £60,000 fee or have to take out a loan or remortgage your house to get it done. If you are convinced the NHS is not value for money due to wasting funds, why not take that route and go private rather than wait? Come off the list and make it a bit shorter for others behind you?

You also don't have to hire an insurance lawyer and take your insurance provider to court to try and persuade them to cover your operation in a situation where they have refused or disagree with your consultant over your need.

You're not being told a ceramic or titanium knee on polymer based is better by your NHS consult, but your insurance provider will only cover a metal on metal cheaper alloy based one from generic company in America because it's cheaper.

The NHS can be frustrating for sure. I have had to wait many years to finally receive a diagnosis for a condition that is by no means resolved going from one department to another, as well as having to buy my own medicine for another condition and that's very very hard.

But before you jump to getting it abolished, I suggest you look up what some Americans are living (or in some cases dying) with. Don't let these people use xenophobia as a means to get you to shoot yourself.

Absolutely! We have clung to our dual citizenship for dear life, because we always had it in the back of minds that you can never get too comfortable; then Shamima happened and what we always 'knew', became fact.

I don't know why people insist on covering their eyes and closing their ears to what's happening.

We are hearing reports of legal immigrants being deported from the Land of the free; watching Farage parrot everything from the Trump dossier and still folks are doing 🙉🙈.

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No that's 18 years of SNP mismanagement

Tory cuts caused to public spending meant that the Barratt formula sent less money to Scotland too. You've got two parties to blame

And how many non British nationals are USING the NHS? A number somewhere in the millions I expect. Many factors of 10 greater than those working for it.

Most immigrants pay a hefty NHS surcharge of £ 1000 a year.

My 85+ FIL with dementia would be counted as an 'ill foreigner' after 40+ years in the UK. His benefits - his pension.

Will he be put on a flight and abandoned at the airport?

who are these “ill foreigners” we shouldn’t treat? Should we get rid of them at the very point of having a heart attack? Or is just chronic illnesses that are the issue?

these Ill foreigners who are often working hard and contributing taxes, paying the NHS surcharge, are often relatives of British citizens (let’s not forget that Farage’s wives (and Trumps and Vance’s wives) have all been first or second generation immigrants…the idiocy and hypocracy

oh and these “foreigners” are just….. people

the fact you feel superior because your ascendants of a few generations were born in England is pathetic. And lest not forget - go back several generations and you will find that you too are a descendant of immigrants! A so-called “foreigner”. Hope you don’t get ill…

pathetic

I'm Japanese, and since dual nationality isn't allowed, I’ve decided I would leave the UK if this law comes into effect in the future. I know most(probably all of) Japanese nationals with Indefinite Leave to Remain would make the same choice as me. I truly love this country and consider it my second home, but there's no way I could renounce my Japanese nationality.

We've paid high taxes and have never claimed Universal Credit. We understand that something needs to be done about migration issues, but my British husband feels like he's being punished by his own country. He's a skilled worker, and most of my friends and their husbands are skilled workers too. I don’t know how this country will manage if people like us are forced to leave.

What is a legal migrant? Would someone who has lived in this country since they were 2/3 be classed as a legal migrant?

The devil is in the detail. Wonder where the name 'Farage' originates from ?!