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Is this normal protocol??

13 replies

georgiegold · 23/09/2025 03:39

I went to collect DC from the usual meet-up point. My partner gave me a lift that day as my car was at the mechanics. Ex does not drive, so I normally have to go close to his house for collection.

Ex and I have always had a difficult relationship due to past abuse (mostly non physical - mainly threats etc), which led to a non-molestation order being in place for the first three years of DC’s life. (DC is now 4 and has been in contact with ex since end of non mol) More recently, tensions have been high because Ex received a refund from CMS, kept it, and then lied about it. At that point, communication between us had already broken down.

Ex is aware that I am in a relationship and that DC spends time with my partner. In the past, when things were more amicable, we agreed that if my partner and I became engaged, Ex would be introduced formally.

At the handover, when I got out of the car, I opened my arms for DC to run to me. Instead, Ex held on to DC’s hand and came up to me, asking how I had arrived and where I got out of the “Uber.” He knew it was not an Uber. I ignored his question, greeted DC, and asked if he had enjoyed his day. Ex then continued to ask how I was getting home. Again, I ignored him.

I chose not to answer because I felt his questions were not genuine concerns for DC’s safety but came from irritation at having seen my partner. Ex has never asked about DC’s travel arrangements before, even though it is not always me who drops off or collects due to work commitments. My priority in that moment was to avoid confrontation, especially as Ex had been sending me repeated angry messages that week after I re-applied to CMS for Collect and Pay. I was already nervous about attending the handover because of his tone in those messages.

Ex would not let go of DC’s hand until I repeatedly thanked him and gently pulled DC towards me. When I got in the car, this was what I received.

Ex:
I don’t know why you think be vague about where my child is going

Ex:
If I ask you tell me

Ex:
You think all this is funny or yeah let me behave weird. What ever your reasons are wasn’t mature

Ex:
I don’t care if your man or whoever you are with don’t want me to know them but I’ve told you you are responsible for who comes into my sons life

You:
I don’t need to tell you how I got to you or how I get home. That’s not a need to know question.

Ex:
Errrr with my son you do

Ex:
Who does that’s

Ex:
Anyways keep playing, it’s all fun. Kl

Ex:
The more I think about it, keep doing what you are doing. You will regret treating my son like this. Lose the attitude and be mature not doing lil tic for tac. Ask you where my son is and you act like I want some private information

You:
Next week Sunday, clapham stn 1:30 and then Clapham stn drop off 7:30?

Ex:
That’s fine

You:
Great. See you then

Ex:
Also how can you bring another person I don’t know to this contact point

Ex:
Who ever that person is next time to a job a better job if you or they don’t want me to see them. I simply asked “did you take a cab” You took his hand as I’m holding him and just scurried off. I’m asking you a very relevant question of my son’s safety and you’re acting weird, running around corners.

Ex:
If that’s your man/friend you need to manage that and not be acting childish when your son father is doing a handover.

I never replied. I found this intrusive especially given our past. Section 7 report actually recommended supervised contact only but judge went against that. Due to this encounter as well as past things, I no longer feel comfortable to meet him. He can still see dc but I want pick up and drop off at contact centre.
what do you ladies think of this?

OP posts:
sorrynotathome · 23/09/2025 07:44

Well in his position I would want to know if you had a correct car seat for every single journey. So I would be coming over and looking.

Endofyear · 23/09/2025 08:04

sorrynotathome · 23/09/2025 07:44

Well in his position I would want to know if you had a correct car seat for every single journey. So I would be coming over and looking.

What nonsense. OP has been the responsible parent for 4 years, ex had a non-molestation order against him! Did you read his texts? He's a controlling abusive ex, not a concerned parent 🙄

AromanticSpices · 23/09/2025 08:11

I assume those are fake times and locations you've posted for next sunday, OP?

IsTheRecyclingOut · 23/09/2025 08:16

sorrynotathome · 23/09/2025 07:44

Well in his position I would want to know if you had a correct car seat for every single journey. So I would be coming over and looking.

Bollocks.

Its controlling and intrusive behaviour. Has op given any indication she is a neglectful?

I dont understand why there is an "uber" in the post? Did op tell ex it was one?

georgiegold · 23/09/2025 11:19

AromanticSpices · 23/09/2025 08:11

I assume those are fake times and locations you've posted for next sunday, OP?

These messages were from months ago. I also changed location for posting purposes.

OP posts:
georgiegold · 23/09/2025 11:25

IsTheRecyclingOut · 23/09/2025 08:16

Bollocks.

Its controlling and intrusive behaviour. Has op given any indication she is a neglectful?

I dont understand why there is an "uber" in the post? Did op tell ex it was one?

Nope. That was one of his questions when I got out of the car even though he knew it clearly wasn’t.

OP posts:
fruitbrewhaha · 23/09/2025 11:26

To answer your question, no it’s not normal. You are perfectly entitled to get a lift from someone else. I’d also want a contact centre too.

georgiegold · 24/09/2025 03:33

Endofyear · 23/09/2025 08:04

What nonsense. OP has been the responsible parent for 4 years, ex had a non-molestation order against him! Did you read his texts? He's a controlling abusive ex, not a concerned parent 🙄

Thank you for your comment. Can I ask you what part of the messages stood out to you?

OP posts:
DeathStare · 24/09/2025 05:35

georgiegold · 23/09/2025 11:19

These messages were from months ago. I also changed location for posting purposes.

Why are you posting about a situation from months ago? If contact is weekly then this must have evolved one way or another by now.

Endofyear · 24/09/2025 06:32

georgiegold · 24/09/2025 03:33

Thank you for your comment. Can I ask you what part of the messages stood out to you?

I think the fact that he thinks he can tell you what to do - for example, he says 'If I ask, you tell me' It's a demand, not a request - he thinks he can dictate to you rather than have a conversation. It sounds like an attempt to control.

pictoosh · 24/09/2025 06:37

sorrynotathome · 23/09/2025 07:44

Well in his position I would want to know if you had a correct car seat for every single journey. So I would be coming over and looking.

And I'd be telling you to back off.

OP he's goading you. You did well to deflect and refuse to discuss further.

georgiegold · 24/09/2025 09:25

DeathStare · 24/09/2025 05:35

Why are you posting about a situation from months ago? If contact is weekly then this must have evolved one way or another by now.

Unfortunately I can’t go into it on here but it’s relevant to things unfolding today.

OP posts:
MusicalCarbuncle · 24/09/2025 09:30

You did 100% the right thing by refusing to engage. He wants you to engage and know that he can get to you.

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