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To ask whether anyone here has ever been investigated by DWP for “living with a partner”?

262 replies

Labradorlover987 · 22/09/2025 13:11

My friend has just been asked to attend a compliance interview at the job centre - she claims universal credit as a single mother to 2 kids, and single person council tax discount she has a boyfriend but they don’t live together full time - he lives with his father - he obviously stays over 3/4 nights a week.

Just wondered what the process was etc

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TheSpiritofDarkandLonelyWater · 23/09/2025 15:14

Redruby2020 · 23/09/2025 15:09

True, and I’m not saying this in your case. But overall, just because people have their own places and paying things in those places, but then choose to spend most of it at the other persons place, where by the state are paying towards it, then that person could just pay for there too, so rather you can’t have your cake and eat it.

He stays at mine 1 or 2 times a week usually weekends. His job is WFH so he sometimes works at mine.
So do I need to tell the job centre about him because this thread is confusing me. My mum buys me food sometimes. Do I need to tell them about her too?

TheSpiritofDarkandLonelyWater · 23/09/2025 15:17

Redruby2020 · 23/09/2025 15:12

They can’t you are right.
But the bf can’t spend 1 night a week or fancy being there 5 or even 7 days/nights of the week, but oh he doesn’t have to pay because he doesn’t live there, and the state must still pay too, because oh you are single and live alone.

He does not live with me though. So my UC claim is as a single person because I live alone. Him watching TV with me is not living with me.

I am getting so confused. Do we have to do a joint claim even though we dont live together?

Labradorlover987 · 23/09/2025 15:20

Deliciouslyfree · 23/09/2025 15:06

Goodness you have a lot on op… another thread on the go today about whether or not you should report something to SS!

It’s the same friend actually - if you scroll up you will see my comment from yesterday regarding TikTok, but thank you for your patronising advice - much appreciated

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Redruby2020 · 23/09/2025 15:21

Looploop · 23/09/2025 13:22

The state has no money of its own. Do you realise that? It comes from taxpayers. From your neighbours and friends. From me.

I am a lone parent. I work full time and pay my taxes. Never claimed benefits. I don’t get a single person discount on council tax as my adult son, also working, lives with me. He can’t afford his own place yet as he is saving up and wouldn’t be housed by the state either.

If everyone lives on benefits who is going to be funding them?? Jobs should pay enough for people to live on - I personallt believe UC subsidises some cheapskate employers. The welfare state should be a safety net and not a way of life!

That’s only if someone can ever earn enough to come off of it or not have to claim in the first place.
You are fortunate then that you earn enough to pay for everything on your own.
Is that a mortgage or private rent, for example in London. Because for a 2 bed flat it can cost btw £1600/2000 a month.
Many don’t earn alot more than that for a full months work, which yes they should be able to live on.
Which is a country/government problem then. And exactly why they top people up who work and are still entitled to something.

So you never received child benefit? You never received single persons council tax before your son was an adult?
So you worked full time since he went to nursery? Paid all childcare costs yourself?
I mean bearing in mind when your son was little there wouldn’t have been the 15/30 free hrs for nursery etc. So you paid for 5 days a week at nursery, you never claimed child tax credits or working tax credits. So a full day 8/8.30-6pm.

And then when he went to school you paid for after school care and for during the holidays when you couldn’t take leave.

I mean if you earn a high salary okay you have earnt deservedly working hard study wise/being academic, etc, so then with a high salary is it only then possible to pay it all.

Redruby2020 · 23/09/2025 15:23

TheSpiritofDarkandLonelyWater · 23/09/2025 15:14

He stays at mine 1 or 2 times a week usually weekends. His job is WFH so he sometimes works at mine.
So do I need to tell the job centre about him because this thread is confusing me. My mum buys me food sometimes. Do I need to tell them about her too?

Mums not the same as a partner lol.

Redruby2020 · 23/09/2025 15:25

TheSpiritofDarkandLonelyWater · 23/09/2025 15:17

He does not live with me though. So my UC claim is as a single person because I live alone. Him watching TV with me is not living with me.

I am getting so confused. Do we have to do a joint claim even though we dont live together?

Edited

Watching TV together is not the point.
Someone can’t expect the benefits to pay them rent etc and anything else as a single person, and then want their bf overnight as much as they like, but it’s okay because he has somewhere else to go.
It seems mostly only the people who do it don’t want to see it as it is.

TheSpiritofDarkandLonelyWater · 23/09/2025 15:33

Redruby2020 · 23/09/2025 15:23

Mums not the same as a partner lol.

Please can you tell me if I have to inform the job centre about a boyfriend that I do not live with. We have our own homes and own bills and all of this can be proven. He buys me meals when we go out.
I am getting worried now.

TheSpiritofDarkandLonelyWater · 23/09/2025 15:35

Redruby2020 · 23/09/2025 15:25

Watching TV together is not the point.
Someone can’t expect the benefits to pay them rent etc and anything else as a single person, and then want their bf overnight as much as they like, but it’s okay because he has somewhere else to go.
It seems mostly only the people who do it don’t want to see it as it is.

Am I committing fraud? I am getting really worried now.
I cant afford to live with no money.

Deliciouslyfree · 23/09/2025 15:35

TheSpiritofDarkandLonelyWater · 23/09/2025 15:35

Am I committing fraud? I am getting really worried now.
I cant afford to live with no money.

Why don’t you mention it at your next meeting then you’ll know for sure either way

highlandponymummy · 23/09/2025 15:36

There is no minimum stay allowed apparently. A friend of mine was visited by the DWP, who told her that the 2 night stay allowance is a myth.

Looploop · 23/09/2025 15:37

Redruby2020 · 23/09/2025 15:21

That’s only if someone can ever earn enough to come off of it or not have to claim in the first place.
You are fortunate then that you earn enough to pay for everything on your own.
Is that a mortgage or private rent, for example in London. Because for a 2 bed flat it can cost btw £1600/2000 a month.
Many don’t earn alot more than that for a full months work, which yes they should be able to live on.
Which is a country/government problem then. And exactly why they top people up who work and are still entitled to something.

So you never received child benefit? You never received single persons council tax before your son was an adult?
So you worked full time since he went to nursery? Paid all childcare costs yourself?
I mean bearing in mind when your son was little there wouldn’t have been the 15/30 free hrs for nursery etc. So you paid for 5 days a week at nursery, you never claimed child tax credits or working tax credits. So a full day 8/8.30-6pm.

And then when he went to school you paid for after school care and for during the holidays when you couldn’t take leave.

I mean if you earn a high salary okay you have earnt deservedly working hard study wise/being academic, etc, so then with a high salary is it only then possible to pay it all.

Yes, did all that. I was married initially so we both paid towards costs at that stage. To sum up the divorce, I had to pay my ex to go away!

I have a decent salary but I have also had a lot of childcare costs - paid by me. At one stage I needed to have an au pair for childcare to cover my antisocial hours so didn’t get the single person council tax discount as she lived in. I never claimed it.

We did get child benefit as a family when it was paid to all. But not since means testing.

I am not paid megabucks but yes I do have a degree and a vast amount of professional experience. I have always worked, including when kids were small, and paid a lot for nursery, childminders, after-school clubs etc. I’ve paid for every type of childcare. It was the only way to have a decent standard of living.

This is how taxpayers live. Net contributors to the system.

TheSpiritofDarkandLonelyWater · 23/09/2025 15:38

Deliciouslyfree · 23/09/2025 15:35

Why don’t you mention it at your next meeting then you’ll know for sure either way

I dont have meetings at the job centre because I am in the LCWRA group.
I will ask my support worker when I next see her.

Wynter25 · 23/09/2025 15:39

LivingDeadGirlUK · 22/09/2025 16:17

God single parents can't win can they? Move a boyfriend in straight away and they are being selfish and not thinking of the children, live separately and they are 'rinsing the system'.

Yep. It's ridiculous

Lou7171 · 23/09/2025 15:42

TheSpiritofDarkandLonelyWater · 23/09/2025 15:33

Please can you tell me if I have to inform the job centre about a boyfriend that I do not live with. We have our own homes and own bills and all of this can be proven. He buys me meals when we go out.
I am getting worried now.

No you don't need to declare that. There is no need to worry. It's a somewhat emotive topic so people won't respond just with the facts unfortunately.

Deliciouslyfree · 23/09/2025 15:43

TheSpiritofDarkandLonelyWater · 23/09/2025 15:38

I dont have meetings at the job centre because I am in the LCWRA group.
I will ask my support worker when I next see her.

Presumably your support worker is already aware of your circumstances?

VanessaShanessaJenkins99 · 23/09/2025 15:45

Labradorlover987 · 23/09/2025 12:20

Just out of interest, have you ever been contacted by HMRC? Or has anyone ever found out it was you who did it?

Ah is this why you said this..... because your worried that shes going to find out that its you that's reported her?

TheSpiritofDarkandLonelyWater · 23/09/2025 15:46

Deliciouslyfree · 23/09/2025 15:43

Presumably your support worker is already aware of your circumstances?

Yes and has never said anything about telling the job centre about my boyfriend at all. We dont live together. But the other poster here is really confusing me by saying he cant watch TV at my house etc.

Labradorlover987 · 23/09/2025 15:46

VanessaShanessaJenkins99 · 23/09/2025 15:45

Ah is this why you said this..... because your worried that shes going to find out that its you that's reported her?

Huh? We think it’s her ex so we wondered if we could prove it - she had been the victim of harrasement and dv

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Labradorlover987 · 23/09/2025 15:46

VanessaShanessaJenkins99 · 23/09/2025 15:45

Ah is this why you said this..... because your worried that shes going to find out that its you that's reported her?

Huh? We think it’s her ex so we wondered if we could prove it - she had been the victim of harrasement and dv

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Lou7171 · 23/09/2025 15:46

TheSpiritofDarkandLonelyWater · 23/09/2025 15:46

Yes and has never said anything about telling the job centre about my boyfriend at all. We dont live together. But the other poster here is really confusing me by saying he cant watch TV at my house etc.

They're talking shit.

Deliciouslyfree · 23/09/2025 15:48

Labradorlover987 · 23/09/2025 15:20

It’s the same friend actually - if you scroll up you will see my comment from yesterday regarding TikTok, but thank you for your patronising advice - much appreciated

You have explicitly said you know this friend is “milking the system” and committing fraud on another thread

Labradorlover987 · 23/09/2025 15:49

Deliciouslyfree · 23/09/2025 15:48

You have explicitly said you know this friend is “milking the system” and committing fraud on another thread

My post on another thread is about a NEIGHBOUR

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TheSpiritofDarkandLonelyWater · 23/09/2025 15:50

Labradorlover987 · 23/09/2025 15:46

Huh? We think it’s her ex so we wondered if we could prove it - she had been the victim of harrasement and dv

I dont think you are told who reports you to DWP or HMRC as it is anonymous. Someone reporting someone also wont get told of any outcome either.
Some reports are malicious though.
If your friend has done nothing wrong and can prove she lives alone etc then it will probably be ok. I imagine you are worried for her. Some ex partners can be very nasty and will do shitty things to get back at people.

Deliciouslyfree · 23/09/2025 15:50

Labradorlover987 · 23/09/2025 15:49

My post on another thread is about a NEIGHBOUR

What happens if someone is claiming as a single partner but has a new partner living with them? I know someone who is clearly milking the system - brand new housing association house, works part time (but just over the UC band) and has two children but claims partner doesn’t live with her (he very much does!!)

goodness the parallels are quite remarkable 😆

Deliciouslyfree · 23/09/2025 15:51

You’re all over mumsnet discussing starting threads about benefits op and fraud and DWP.

Some might say you seem to be mining information….

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