To ask for your feedback on my holiday itinerary for next year?

[ThatCyanSheep]

I'm bored, and fed up of the weather so I've fully planned my holiday next year.

Any opinions of what more I can fit in/what I should take out are welcome!

NICE, France

Hotel: Ibis Budget Californie Lenval

Saturday 29th August

• Fly to Nice - land at 11:30am (ish)
• Tram to Hotel - 20 minutes by bus/9 minutes by tram
• Store bag at hotel/check in (I am an ALL member so I have free early check in) and sort daypack/change to explore
• 12:00 - about 3pm
• Explore Nice old town & get lunch
• 3pm - 5:30pm
• Head back to Promenade des Anglais, get gelato, explore beach, coffee
• 5:30-6:45
• Head back to hotel, shower, freshen up, change
• Dinner - find restaurant along Promenade
• After dinner - sunset stroll then head back to hotel

Sunday 29th August

• Breakfast in Nice
• Nice ➡️ Vilefranche-sur-Mer
• Walk around - visit harbour & town centre
• Coffee & walk
• Villefranche-sur-Mer ➡️ Antibes
• Lunch on train or Antibes
• Explore Antibes
• Picasso Museum
• Visit the port
• Antibes ➡️ Nice
• Relaxed afternoon - read on beach, try to catch some of the F1
• Stroll back to hotel
• Freshen up
• Dinner

Monday 30th August

• Monaco day trip
• Breakfast in Nice
• Nice ➡️ Monaco
• Coffee & explore old town
• Lunch
• Walk the track (or at least some of it)
• Visit the harbour, stroll along and eat
• Monaco ➡️ Nice
• Dinner

Tuesday 1st September

• Beach club day

MILAN, Italy

Hotel: Ibis Milano Centrale

Wednesday 2nd September

• Nice ➡️ Milan (early train, aim to arrive in Milan by midday)
• Head to hotel, store bag and sort daypack
• Explore, head to Duomo for fan event (or wherever the fan event is, it has not been announced yet)
• Find somewhere for dinner
• Back to hotel

Thursday 3rd September

• Breakfast around hotel, explore the area
• Head to Monza for the fan stage and other events
• Back to Milan around midafternoon
• Find lunch and explore
• Galleria Vittorio Emanuele II and Brera
• Dinner

Friday 4th September

• Day trip to Lake Como
• Train Milan ➡️ Como Lago
• Breakfast in Como
• Explore, visit the cathedral, funicular ride?
• Como ➡️ Bellagio
• Explore Bellagio
• Bellagio ➡️ Varenna
• Villa Monastero gardens
• Varenna ➡️ Como
• Como Lago ➡️ Milan
• Dinner around the hotel

On Friday, visit grocery store to get water and snacks for the race weekend

Saturday 5th September

QUALI DAY - day in Monza

Dinner near hotel after qualifying

Sunday 6th September

RACE DAY

Dinner near hotel after qualifying
Pack bags
Full body shower to prepare for flight

Monday 7th September

• Breakfast at hotel
• Head to airport at 8am
• Flight home around 11:30

I get it OP as I enjoy this kind of planning for trips too. You can always depart from the plan but it gives you something to go by! @CountryQueen makes a good point about planning places to eat and I like that aspect of it too. You can use Google maps and see what looks nice in the area you're planning to be. I also think the 29th, the day including the Picasso museum, looks over full and I'll cut some of this down.

Looks lovely! My only comment as someone who goes to the south of France a lot is either turn up promptly for the opening of the first sitting of the restaurants or book a couple of days in advance. As the good places will be full in the season!

I went this year and thought it was amazing - far better than Silverstone!

It’ll be after the race, so in prep for the flight home the next day haha

next on my list is researching places to eat!

It’s my first ever solo trip, I’m so excited. I decided to go after going this year with my family and realising I was the only one who understood the public transport systems in Italy 🤣 it made me realise I could go it alone

If I’m doing a beach holiday I wouldn’t plan it at all, but this is very much a get up and go holiday

I think planning is good 🤷🏻‍♀️ you don't have to stick to the timings exactly, but it's good to have an understanding!

If it were me, I wouldn't go to the town of lake Como. I'd get the train directly to Varenna (it's really easy from Milan central) and I'd split my time (boat trips) between Varenna and Bellagio. I think you'd get the most out of them that way, rather than including Como as well, which is much further down.

Can I come?

Can I come? Sounds fab.

Don’t know the areas. However, not sure you’ve accommodated enough time for travel and time to look around.

Why full body shower before the flight? I’d save it until you get home to relax and recover from the flight

Why does chat gpt specify ‘full body shower’?

Oooh I’ll take a look at that - I loved como this year, but then again I have been there before so I’m not bothered by skipping it!

ChatGPT doesn’t. I do.

the f1 is, in a nice way, fucking minging. You get sweaty. You get dirty, even in a grandstand you’re heading to the shade every minute there’s not racing and you’re sitting in the mud (because even though it seems to rain overnight in Monza, it didn’t during the day!), you’re covered in suncream and insect repellent, so I want to have some time to really scrub that off so I’m not disgusting before I fly!

OP, you’ve posted at least a couple of times about this trip before, if I remember correctly, including in minute detail about how to get to the F1 track. Now that you’re using ChatGPt to schedule your showers a year ahead of time, I honestly think you need to work on your anxiety. It’s a short break in the south of France and Italy, not being parachuted into Mogadishu in wartime. You don’t need to plan it like a covert ops mission.

I liked the Marc Chagall museum more than the nearby Matisse museum. Those close for lunch and get really busy so planning timings would be pretty helpful actually. I also liked the Photography museum and MAMAC. There is a lot of good food everywhere but recommend this one for atmosphere and service as well as food:
www.comptoirdumarche.fr/en/#restaurant

Ibis Budget hotels are extremely basic: fine for a one night stopover but I wouldn’t want to stay in one for a holiday. I’d look for something a notch or two higher where at least the desk is manned 24/7.

There's a lot of travelling and your itinerary doesn't include most journey times. Working out the way to the station, getting there early to be ready, getting the train, minor delays, finding your way at the other end - these are all time-consuming and a bit tiring. So make sure your itinerary allows for them.

There's a lot of strolling around which personally I would get bored of quite quickly, but presumably you enjoy!

Hey? No, I haven’t

I’m happy with basic! It’s a double bed and a shower - that’s all I really want!

In Lake Como I don’t think you will be able to do all
that you have planned in one day. The thing to note is the ferry times and how busy they are so there often isn’t availability for the trips you want to do.

I’d need a holiday to recover from your holiday!

Haha that’s how I felt this year! I’ve got the day off after I get home, so that’ll be my day to recover 🤣

Ok, well, there’s another poster who adores F1 and has posted previously about this being her first solo trip to Monza, asking how to arrange a short holiday around the race, and asking with a similar attention to detail about exactly how to get to the track and away again.

I suppose what I meant was, why not just ‘shower’?

I’ve always called them everything/full body showers, just depends on what I’m going to do! I think it’s a social media thing haha