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Letter informing parents about the closure of after school club

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oodles50 · 19/09/2025 17:03

Apologies for this, but this has annoyed me this afternoon and I feel like I need to vent about it!

We received a letter this afternoon totally out of the blue informing us that our school’s after school wrap around care is closing in two weeks time.

The school apologised for this but said there aren’t enough numbers for it to be ‘viable’.

I have several friends who talk about how oversubscribed their children’s after school club is, and I can’t comprehend how there aren’t enough children each day to cover the costs.

What’s more annoying is that in the letter they said don’t worry, there’s another setting down the road that can offer wrap around care - it’s double the price! (£8.50 vs £15.50 a day).

My DD has just started in reception and a big reason why we chose this school over another one we liked, was ironically the wrap around care provision. I just feel like we’ve had two weeks of school and just settled into things and the rug has been pulled, and I’m left scrabbling around, working out if I can change my hours, or if I’m going to be forced to pay double the amount I was expecting.

OP posts:
tumblingdowntherabbithole · 19/09/2025 20:23

KindLemur · 19/09/2025 20:16

Loads of parents at my kids school do a 20 minute walk to school, ten minute chat after they go in, amble back via a coffee shop for a takeout latte. Log on ‘for 9am’ at about 9.20, repeat end of day.

Good for them.

Envy isn't a good look Wink

KindLemur · 19/09/2025 20:23

OnTheRoof · 19/09/2025 19:40

I laugh when people think nobody can ever work full time with a different pattern to them.

What full time hours allow you to be free before school, during drop off time, and then during collection and after ? If you drop off at school, then come home and log on, then log off in time to get to school for pickup, then drive home, and look after your kids until your other half gets in, how are you fitting 40-plus hours a week in? Or do you work with primary aged kids in the house, if so how do you actually get proper work done?

my own mum worked nights, dropped us off then went to bed for 5 hours, got up and picked up, did tea bath homework etc then went back to a night shift when my dad came in at 8pm. I suspect that’s not what everyone’s doing though!!

KindLemur · 19/09/2025 20:24

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 19/09/2025 20:23

Good for them.

Envy isn't a good look Wink

I’m not envious, they’ll get found out eventually as a lot will are slowly being asked to go back to the office and are shitting themselves about having to put a shift in!

Haveaproperty · 19/09/2025 20:25

Thats not a lot of notice. I would be pissed off too.
All the schools round here are 15 a day though. 8.50 seems very cheap. You can get tax free childcare for it too which helps a little.

KindLemur · 19/09/2025 20:27

OnTheRoof · 19/09/2025 20:21

Yes, I'm sure there are absolutely masses of parents at your DCs school telling you all about their contracted hours and work patterns. Dozens, nay hundreds!

this Is the life of many parents at my kids school, I could name about 15 who post this sort of routine on their social media most days but tbf they could be completely bullshitting as instagram is hardly known for its realism! Couple of of them ‘work from home’ doing influencing so tbh that’s not actually a job.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 19/09/2025 20:28

KindLemur · 19/09/2025 20:23

What full time hours allow you to be free before school, during drop off time, and then during collection and after ? If you drop off at school, then come home and log on, then log off in time to get to school for pickup, then drive home, and look after your kids until your other half gets in, how are you fitting 40-plus hours a week in? Or do you work with primary aged kids in the house, if so how do you actually get proper work done?

my own mum worked nights, dropped us off then went to bed for 5 hours, got up and picked up, did tea bath homework etc then went back to a night shift when my dad came in at 8pm. I suspect that’s not what everyone’s doing though!!

One parent might work 7-3 while the other works 10-6.
Some people work from home and can flex their hours to do the school run.
Some people work school hours and then do extra in the evenings, or at weekends.
Some people work shifts.
Some people have family living with them who can help with childcare.
Some have older siblings at home who can "supervise" while they work and are on hand in case of an emergency.

Also, not all jobs require you to be sat at a desk for eight hours straight. Lots of people can work from their phones, or fit in their hours as and when. It's very normal.

You seem to have a very outdated view of the workplace.

OnTheRoof · 19/09/2025 20:30

KindLemur · 19/09/2025 20:23

What full time hours allow you to be free before school, during drop off time, and then during collection and after ? If you drop off at school, then come home and log on, then log off in time to get to school for pickup, then drive home, and look after your kids until your other half gets in, how are you fitting 40-plus hours a week in? Or do you work with primary aged kids in the house, if so how do you actually get proper work done?

my own mum worked nights, dropped us off then went to bed for 5 hours, got up and picked up, did tea bath homework etc then went back to a night shift when my dad came in at 8pm. I suspect that’s not what everyone’s doing though!!

Night shifts. Split shifts. Hospitality where you don't start til after school. Any job where you've got to do a certain number of hours/tasks but have control over when you do them. An other half who's in already because they wfh too and finish before you do. Jobs with core hours that fall within the school day but significant flexibility orherwise. Own business offering your services when it's convenient to you and totalling over 35 hours a week.

Also, loads of older primary kids are fine entertaining themselves for a couple of hours, or potentially having an eye kept by an older sibling. Mine goes to family for preference, but would be fine in the house. You're a secondary teacher, some of your pupils probably do it.

Barney16 · 19/09/2025 20:30

Childcare is really expensive to provide and operates on very fine margins. It's such a shame but at £8.50 it's probably just not making enough money to carry on going.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 19/09/2025 20:30

KindLemur · 19/09/2025 20:24

I’m not envious, they’ll get found out eventually as a lot will are slowly being asked to go back to the office and are shitting themselves about having to put a shift in!

Well, you're doing a good job of appearing envious, that's for sure.

BoredZelda · 19/09/2025 20:35

LauraHopkins · 19/09/2025 18:07

In a contrast of worlds… the afterschool at DD’s school is oversubscribed for 4 out of 5 days and costs £19 a session. She’s still on the waiting list for 2 days, nearly 18 months after she was allocated a place in reception.

It’s all about the area. Our school had a low number for children who were eligible for PEF - low income families who tend to have one SAHP, or other family member who provide childcare. The after school club was very over subscribed. Until Covid when more people WFH then the numbers dropped and it was easier to get a place. The school in the next area over had a much higher number of PEF eligible children, their ASC was never that busy and closed after Covid because more people were WFH.

We have an ASC club who picks children up from schools and takes them back to their base in a local community centre. That seems to be the model that works best, but it is more expensive to run.

KindLemur · 19/09/2025 20:37

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 19/09/2025 20:30

Well, you're doing a good job of appearing envious, that's for sure.

Whatever you say. Good job there’s still some people willing to actually get off their arses and go to work! You’d be the first to complain if your kids teacher decided they needed to teach via zoom for childcare purposes or your gp decided they work virtually ‘fitting it in when they can’ !

Blueberry911 · 19/09/2025 20:37

KindLemur · 19/09/2025 20:19

I teach in a secondary school. Imagine if all teachers ditched their roles for wfh where we can avoid having to pay for childcare! I’m struggling to understand how your lunch break covers a school run both ends of the day. So you don’t take any breaks at all during the day and only stop working to do school run? Don’t eat?

My job is more flexible than yours, understandable as you're a teacher

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 19/09/2025 20:37

KindLemur · 19/09/2025 20:37

Whatever you say. Good job there’s still some people willing to actually get off their arses and go to work! You’d be the first to complain if your kids teacher decided they needed to teach via zoom for childcare purposes or your gp decided they work virtually ‘fitting it in when they can’ !

Nope, not at all - I'd be quite happy with OOH GP appointments online - it would be perfect for me, actually Grin

ButterPiesAreGreat · 19/09/2025 20:38

KindLemur · 19/09/2025 20:24

I’m not envious, they’ll get found out eventually as a lot will are slowly being asked to go back to the office and are shitting themselves about having to put a shift in!

You go on about this far too much for you not be envious so don’t try to claim otherwise.

By the way, thanks for lumping all the wfhers into the category of “lazy sods who do nothing”. When my kids were in primary, I was part time wfh and technically supposed to finish just before school pick up time but I would frequently come back and do more work. By the time they were at secondary, I was on 0.8. In the days after Covid when they weren’t getting the bus, I would take half an hour out of my day to pick them up. The boss knew, and I still fulfilled my hours and then some. Even now on the same hours and neither still at school or college, I usually work a bit more than my contracted hours and at certain times of the year, a lot more. My boss works similarly flexibly, we all do as we are a remote organisation but he’s more likely to be working late or weekends. We don’t have to be logged on by certain times but I’m usually logged on by 9. And usually logged on still at 5. Some of my colleagues work later if they do school runs. It may come as a surprise to you but it works. Everyone puts in max effort when they’re working because they know they're trusted to do their jobs and are not limited by a clock. It becomes very obvious if someone is not pulling their weight. Most WFHers I know put in a shift, as much as you seem to want not to believe it.

KindLemur · 19/09/2025 20:38

My DH can actually wfh but he chooses to go in 4 days because the WFH contingent are considered less reliable and less able to produce decent work

KindLemur · 19/09/2025 20:39

ButterPiesAreGreat · 19/09/2025 20:38

You go on about this far too much for you not be envious so don’t try to claim otherwise.

By the way, thanks for lumping all the wfhers into the category of “lazy sods who do nothing”. When my kids were in primary, I was part time wfh and technically supposed to finish just before school pick up time but I would frequently come back and do more work. By the time they were at secondary, I was on 0.8. In the days after Covid when they weren’t getting the bus, I would take half an hour out of my day to pick them up. The boss knew, and I still fulfilled my hours and then some. Even now on the same hours and neither still at school or college, I usually work a bit more than my contracted hours and at certain times of the year, a lot more. My boss works similarly flexibly, we all do as we are a remote organisation but he’s more likely to be working late or weekends. We don’t have to be logged on by certain times but I’m usually logged on by 9. And usually logged on still at 5. Some of my colleagues work later if they do school runs. It may come as a surprise to you but it works. Everyone puts in max effort when they’re working because they know they're trusted to do their jobs and are not limited by a clock. It becomes very obvious if someone is not pulling their weight. Most WFHers I know put in a shift, as much as you seem to want not to believe it.

I’ve very deliberately chosen a profession no own can work from home in so don’t know why you think I’m jealous than you can sit rotting in your pjs on a laptop and never need to interact with a real human it’s literally my idea of hell

Blueberry911 · 19/09/2025 20:41

KindLemur · 19/09/2025 20:37

Whatever you say. Good job there’s still some people willing to actually get off their arses and go to work! You’d be the first to complain if your kids teacher decided they needed to teach via zoom for childcare purposes or your gp decided they work virtually ‘fitting it in when they can’ !

You're right. You're so important and work so much harder than EVERYBODY else. Including myself.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 19/09/2025 20:41

KindLemur · 19/09/2025 20:39

I’ve very deliberately chosen a profession no own can work from home in so don’t know why you think I’m jealous than you can sit rotting in your pjs on a laptop and never need to interact with a real human it’s literally my idea of hell

You're very defensive and aggressive for someone who isn't jealous 😂

ButterPiesAreGreat · 19/09/2025 20:42

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 19/09/2025 20:37

Nope, not at all - I'd be quite happy with OOH GP appointments online - it would be perfect for me, actually Grin

Our GP already offers appointments over the phone or online. And they have a triage system which can bypass a GP appointment and refer you straight on to another service. I was referred directly to a skin hub recently, and had an appointment with the skin hub 24 hours after I filled in the online form.

KindLemur · 19/09/2025 20:43

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 19/09/2025 20:41

You're very defensive and aggressive for someone who isn't jealous 😂

You’re clearly someone who is also defensive about their lack of ability to work properly sat on their arse at home. Why the fuck would I be jealous of you, See ya.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 19/09/2025 20:43

ButterPiesAreGreat · 19/09/2025 20:42

Our GP already offers appointments over the phone or online. And they have a triage system which can bypass a GP appointment and refer you straight on to another service. I was referred directly to a skin hub recently, and had an appointment with the skin hub 24 hours after I filled in the online form.

Yes, ours do too actually - we can have phone appointments, online appointments, same-day appointments etc. They're fantastic. They also offer physio and a MIU.

When I have (for example) a medication review there's absolutely no point in me wasting a full appointment time when the same goal can be achieved in two minutes via Zoom!

MyLimeGuide · 19/09/2025 20:44

Yeah this is happening a lot now. Nannies is definitely the way forward they will build relationships with your kids etc.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 19/09/2025 20:44

KindLemur · 19/09/2025 20:43

You’re clearly someone who is also defensive about their lack of ability to work properly sat on their arse at home. Why the fuck would I be jealous of you, See ya.

I don't even work from home, what are you on about? 😂

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 19/09/2025 20:45

KindLemur · 19/09/2025 20:42

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8813120/

not for me thanks, absolutely fraught with dangers unless a very simple solution/ condition.

Oh well, good thing we're not all like you then Hmm