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Immigration going down and small boats tiny percentage

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Lifeisnotalwaysfair · 14/09/2025 07:57

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/sep/14/what-do-the-immigration-figures-for-the-uk-really-show
The figures seem to speak for themselves, shouldn't they be more widely publicised to those who support Reform etc? Or am I reading biased figures?

What do the immigration figures for the UK really show?

Official figures indicate net migration is falling, yet concern among Britons is close to the highest it has been since polling began in 1974

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/sep/14/what-do-the-immigration-figures-for-the-uk-really-show

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Clawdes · 14/09/2025 08:06

I expect that’s because the rules were recently tightened around students bringing in dependents. There were absurd numbers of mostly Nigerian and Indian students bringing over multiple tenuously linked dependents pre-2024. Most of these then (fully legally) overstayed the student visa.

KhakiTiger · 14/09/2025 08:27

So you think over 50k small boat crossings and total illegal entries many times more than in 2025 is all hunky dory?

You think half a million total immigration to the country every year including legal immigration is sustainable?

The fact that left thinks this is progress is why Reform are looking more and more likely to win the next election.

Readyforslippers · 14/09/2025 08:29

Shhh, they don't want to hear actual facts and figures...they'd rather believe what criminals like TR and NF tell them to.

AgnesX · 14/09/2025 08:30

KhakiTiger · 14/09/2025 08:27

So you think over 50k small boat crossings and total illegal entries many times more than in 2025 is all hunky dory?

You think half a million total immigration to the country every year including legal immigration is sustainable?

The fact that left thinks this is progress is why Reform are looking more and more likely to win the next election.

How does 50k translate in half a million exactly?

NotABiscuitInSight · 14/09/2025 08:37

Those figures show huge increases in non-eu migration since Brexit.

They also show EU and Brits are below the 0 point.

What story do you think that tells?

ShowOfHands · 14/09/2025 08:37

AgnesX · 14/09/2025 08:30

How does 50k translate in half a million exactly?

They're talking about total net immigration which is around 400,000.

KhakiTiger · 14/09/2025 09:00

The left really are flailing around like inflatable tube men at petrol stations, trying to figure out how to underplay the disastrous situation with migration, having utterly failed at actually doing anything about it.

You can’t dress it up and you can’t hide the truth. Immigration numbers being so high is a disaster. And the two main parties have lost control. Reform have a clear path to power. If you don’t like that, you shouldn’t have championed open borders and mass uncontrolled immigration.

brytersky · 14/09/2025 09:06

How much are these people costing the economy? What are they contributing to the economy? What are the government doing to address the high youth unemployment rate and lack of help for home grown youngsters to find jobs and long term occupations? Why do young muslim men have the highest unemployment rate?

Clawdes · 14/09/2025 09:50

“Figure 3 shows that Nigeria had the highest number of dependants (60,923) of sponsored study visa holders in 2022, increasing from 1,586 in 2019.“

Where there’s a loophole, people will exploit it. We need the right kind of immigrants, properly documented and with mandatory English skills. It’s right that immigration is a focus and that all routes are being tightened.

scalt · 14/09/2025 10:00

Are they seeing the flags from their boats, and thinking “nah!”?

Anyway, figures can always be massaged, by government or opposition, to suit their agenda.

Coffeetime25 · 14/09/2025 10:06

tr n his minions don't have the intelligence for facts all Tommy Robinson and his croonies know is what is written in their Bible {Facebook} if it not on facebook they wont understand
all these thugs know is Tommy robinson tells them what to do and Facebook tells them what to think

KhakiTiger · 14/09/2025 10:07

Coffeetime25 · 14/09/2025 10:06

tr n his minions don't have the intelligence for facts all Tommy Robinson and his croonies know is what is written in their Bible {Facebook} if it not on facebook they wont understand
all these thugs know is Tommy robinson tells them what to do and Facebook tells them what to think

Can someone translate this in English please?

brytersky · 14/09/2025 10:27

KhakiTiger · 14/09/2025 10:07

Can someone translate this in English please?

The right wing are thick, knuckle dragging borg who only do what their leader tells them to do. Lacking a developed cerebral cortex, they're only capable of very basic functioning. They can neither read nor write and enjoy duffing people up which is why they join the tommy club.

Fluffyholeysocks · 14/09/2025 10:45

If you strip out all the tired insults which add nothing to the immigration debate, the Government are reducing the legal migration numbers as pointed out by previous posters. What is much, much harder is the people coming on small boats. Nothing the Government has done reduced the numbers. With the huge backlog still waiting for their asylum claims to be processed, we aren't going to see any change if the Government don't take action soon. As the French have pointed out there is no active deterrent.

Clawdes · 14/09/2025 10:46

Fluffyholeysocks · 14/09/2025 10:45

If you strip out all the tired insults which add nothing to the immigration debate, the Government are reducing the legal migration numbers as pointed out by previous posters. What is much, much harder is the people coming on small boats. Nothing the Government has done reduced the numbers. With the huge backlog still waiting for their asylum claims to be processed, we aren't going to see any change if the Government don't take action soon. As the French have pointed out there is no active deterrent.

Fully agree, which is why Rwanda might have worked.

I’m not convinced that the one-in, one-out policy will be much of a deterrent at all.

JHound · 14/09/2025 11:26

Clawdes · 14/09/2025 08:06

I expect that’s because the rules were recently tightened around students bringing in dependents. There were absurd numbers of mostly Nigerian and Indian students bringing over multiple tenuously linked dependents pre-2024. Most of these then (fully legally) overstayed the student visa.

What was those numbers?

Clawdes · 14/09/2025 12:14

JHound · 14/09/2025 11:26

What was those numbers?

I posted them above.

KhakiTiger · 14/09/2025 12:22

brytersky · 14/09/2025 10:27

The right wing are thick, knuckle dragging borg who only do what their leader tells them to do. Lacking a developed cerebral cortex, they're only capable of very basic functioning. They can neither read nor write and enjoy duffing people up which is why they join the tommy club.

I suspect you are looking forward to a Reform government.

brytersky · 14/09/2025 13:11

KhakiTiger · 14/09/2025 12:22

I suspect you are looking forward to a Reform government.

Absolutely not. I think farage is a self serving parasite and I wish he'd go away.

You can't slot people into boxes.

KhakiTiger · 14/09/2025 14:26

brytersky · 14/09/2025 13:11

Absolutely not. I think farage is a self serving parasite and I wish he'd go away.

You can't slot people into boxes.

Missed the point. Never mind.

brytersky · 14/09/2025 14:34

KhakiTiger · 14/09/2025 14:26

Missed the point. Never mind.

What did you mean then? There's no point being oblique.

PiggyPigalle · 14/09/2025 14:39

As the channel crossings are a tiny percentage, it shows how big the problem is.
Please don't say it's not a problem. If it wasn't, they wouldn't be sent back.

Petrolitis · 14/09/2025 14:42

NotABiscuitInSight · 14/09/2025 08:37

Those figures show huge increases in non-eu migration since Brexit.

They also show EU and Brits are below the 0 point.

What story do you think that tells?

It tells you that those who listened to that cunt Farage about Brexit got well and truly screwed over.

usernamealreadytaken · 14/09/2025 15:00

Lifeisnotalwaysfair · 14/09/2025 07:57

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/sep/14/what-do-the-immigration-figures-for-the-uk-really-show
The figures seem to speak for themselves, shouldn't they be more widely publicised to those who support Reform etc? Or am I reading biased figures?

Of course immigration numbers have plummeted; the article points to fewer Ukrainian refugees coming now after the initial 200k, and similarly with the Afghan resettlement scheme which has already brought over the majority of those known to have assisted UK troops (and a fair few who probably didn’t).

Nearly half a million “students” and their dependents came last year
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c97w1x2deyvo
https://news.sky.com/story/fake-documents-debt-and-student-visas-inside-the-uks-immigration-system-13423639

Not to mention well over a quarter of a million “workers” with their dependents.

Even with falling immigration numbers, these people still need homes, infrastructure, support services, school places, water, food… are you happy for councils to rip through your local greenbelt to build on, or drive your children further to school, or reduce your water use, and sit on more crowded busses/roads? These are the issues we are all facing, without even considering the nearly 100k asylum seekers who fully rely on state support while being processed, and then most likely after too.

A woman, whose identity cannot be seen, in an orange headscarf looking away from the camera

Visa networks making millions illegally fleecing students

A BBC investigation finds one man charged £1.2m for visa documents that were largely worthless.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c97w1x2deyvo

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