Trump's drawing is of a child, not a grown woman

[Tealpins]

AIBU to disagree with the media reporting of the picture - it's clearly the body of a child, not a woman?

Trump has signed what amounts to a confession about abusing non-adult females. Am I wrong?

And surely the press should point it out.

100% agree.

It is clearly a child.

Enigma is also an anagram of gamine.

Clearly thought they were being very clever waving their paedophilia under everyone's noses.

The drawing has pubic hair. Quite the bush actually

This is Nigel Farages BFF

Looks like a woman to me. Children don’t have wide hips.

Either way, the reprehensible specimen should have been in jail, long ago.

The whole thing is weird and disturbing, but has others have said, the figure has wide hips, breasts and pubic hair - it's not a pre-pubescent child.

I wouldn't read too much into the woman/girl aspect, it is a doodle.

There is lots of evidence he absolutely DOES doodle on notes/letters.
The letter uses language he uses.
The signature is his.
The signature is absolutely placed intentionally.

It is definitely a letter he wrote and sent. It is a very weird thing to send to another man if you don't share a particularly disgusting secret relating to sex with that man. It suggests quite an intimate relationship (I don't mean that he and Epstein were shagging each other by that).

"May every day be another wonderful secret."

Well, the secret is out. What a hideous creep. What other 'secret' could Trump possibly be referring to in a conversation with Epstein?

His sort love describing their perversions as ‘wonderful’

‘Female children’??

Is this what girls are being called now?

The fact Trump can't draw for shit and so no-one can make out if this is a girl or a woman, is the LEAST of the truly manky things about the weird old orange perv.

Exactly. It looks like he wrote the words and THEN drew the female outline. I’m sure he put his signature where he did to suggest public hair.

It’s creepy and misogynistic (unsurprisingly) but I don’t see a child’s body.

I guess taken together, the allusions to secrets, the previous 'some of them on the younger side' and the testimony of survivors who were as young as 13, this does read, at best, as pubescent. As pp have said, the context makes this more disgusting and more incriminating in my view.

(I agree, as an entirely flat chested woman, that small tits don't equal child, but as above, it does feel that this particular configuration is an allusion to abuse of teenagers, who aren't adults, who are fully still children in my view.)

As others have said, sadly even this won't be damaging. Men's careers and reputations aren't impaired by having sex with teens as the example of Bill Wyman illustrates beautifully.

Not sure tbh, doesnt look like a child. But also doesnt look like any sort of human. Womans hip, mans pecks, weird pubes, no genitals or arms or head.

It’s an adult woman. The waist and wide hips are a giveaway.

@Tealpins

agree, as an entirely flat chested woman, that small tits don't equal child

Your choice of language is pretty vile under the circumstances.

Wtf are they talking about?

Wide hips, pubic hair and breasts? That’s not a child. The text is very creepy though.

“Gamine,” in the modern usage, is a slender and boyishly built young woman à la Audrey Hepburn. Does Trump strike you as someone who would be well-versed enough in the history of the term to know that it was used for female “street urchins” centuries ago? Does he strike you as someone subtle and well-read enough to use anagrams in a birthday message?

It is not “clearly a child.” Move the breasts to a normal position, and it looks like a five-second sketch of the torso shape I had into my late twenties.

Well that was normal 🤯🤯

The figure doesn't look prepubescent, but given all we know I wouldn't assume it represents an adult woman. Many of Epstein's victims were teenage children who had not long since been through puberty.

It's better than "underage women" which is a phrase I've seen used in relation to Epstein.
I guess girls has several meanings -young woman or child. the child part is the most relevant so I don't think there is anything wrong with "female child". Epstein's victims were children and (that we know) were female.

And worse, like the Mandelson statement, there's a lot of 'young women' being used to blur the edges of who the victims were and what the criminality was. Apologies if it sounded discordant but I intended to emphasise that these were children. One survivor was 13.

You do realise a girl can go through puberty AND still be a child , right?

A child with pubic hair? Trump is an absolute creep and sexual predator but it seems like you are looking for something in this picture that simply isn’t there.