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To have only just noticed the death of the chimney!

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Foxyloxymoxy · 08/09/2025 19:43

I was driving home and through an area full of new housing estates and I’ve only just noticed that there’s no chimneys. I don’t know why this has only hit me now as I live in a new build with no chimney 🤣🤣 but it really changes the skyline completely! Anyone else notice this?!

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Buxusmortus · 08/09/2025 21:29

I agree it looks very strange to see hundreds of roofs with no chimneys. There are far too many new builds near me, not one has a chimney.
The houses built in the 60s, 70s and 80s all have working chimneys.

swingingbytheseat · 08/09/2025 21:33

I will always have a house with a working chimney. I love wood burners in winter.

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 08/09/2025 21:34

What does Father Christmas do?🎅

SeaAndStars · 08/09/2025 21:40

Foxyloxymoxy · 08/09/2025 21:24

Yes of course.

I only ask because I'm reading Sarah Beeny's book and she's very interesting on the subject of air tight houses. She says that heat pumps and other systems that are designed for air tight houses only work economically, efficiently and effectively if windows are never opened. Seems strange when most people like to open windows.

Needlenardlenoo · 08/09/2025 21:47

I saw a chimney sweep van today! So we must have sufficient chimneys in our bit of SE London to support one business at least.

Chim chimeney...!

Suffolkposy · 08/09/2025 21:48

We have hundreds of new houses going up behind us and they have fake chimney’s! It’s so weird, they just create a small stack on the roof with a couple of chimney pots and that’s it. Why bother?

PlanningTowns · 08/09/2025 22:00

MasterBeth · 08/09/2025 20:40

Good grief!

No wonder our planning system is on n a mess if this is the standard of thought among our planners

It's not "good design" to put an obligatory non-functional, ornamental, pastiche feature on the roof of a contemporary home. How on earth is it "better quality" to include a redundant artefact on a building? Absolute nonsense argument!

Do you insist all the chimneys have a TV aerial installed as well to replicate that historic late 20th century roofscape?

So my question to you is, how do you integrate 100-200 plus new homes into an existing village where every existing property has a chimney - where there is a richness that has evolved over time and where it would have been absolutely extraordinary to have seen developments of more than 5 houses at any one time. Oh, and where you have the added constraint of at least one if not more conservation areas and other designations

Most developers in our area want to build traditional styled housing, they aren’t interested in contemporary (apparently it doesn’t sell) and getting them to do anything sustainable above building regulations is like you have asked them to sacrifice a small child. And this is in one of the most affluent areas of the country.

my personal preference is for contemporary modern homes which are highly sustainable, have evolved to take account of contemporary architectural practices and add a new dimension to the built environment. It probably wouldn’t have a chimney as it would be built to passive Haus standards.

The typical house developers use pocket books with standard floor plans, and as little elevational treatment beyond a door and four windows as possible. There is no creativity, no contribution to the community and even less regard for the context within which they wish to build. Try working with that and you would soon realise why people don’t want to go into the profession.

there are so many reasons why the planning system is in a mess (not least how housing numbers are determined and the use of the tilted balance to get whatever shit development is put forward at appeal). I wouldn’t have put me looking to ensure crap schemes integrate into their surroundings just a little bit better to be at the top of that list but I live and learn.

i imagine you live in quite a unique place where new development is as it should be, evolved, contemporary and sustainable. Probably some city and not in the shires where any positive change is resisted at every single level.

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 08/09/2025 22:03

SeaAndStars · 08/09/2025 21:17

There must be thousands of acres of 1960s and 70s estates in the UK without a single chimney (real or otherwise) to be seen.

Our house is 60's, has two chimneys, one for the original gas boiler, and one for the fireplace - I don't know if you could choose to have an open fire there, as this house had a gas fire - and a fancier fireplace (and bathroom) as it was the show home for the estate.

A lot of people have had a new roof over the last 15 years, and quite a few have had one or both chimneys removed.

Treeshadebreese · 08/09/2025 22:05

It can’t come soon enough. The air round here is full of smoke in the winter. It plays havoc with my lungs.

IvanaTinkles · 08/09/2025 22:08

I never even thought about this before, and had to check our house immediately, and bugger me, we don’t have a chimney! Have lived here for 4 years now and never noticed. House was built in the early 80’s, so not exactly a new build, but I guess they were already seen as redundant by then!

MasterBeth · 08/09/2025 22:14

@PlanningTowns I don't envy your role, but I don't believe adding fake chimneys is the answer.

Foxyloxymoxy · 08/09/2025 22:14

SeaAndStars · 08/09/2025 21:40

I only ask because I'm reading Sarah Beeny's book and she's very interesting on the subject of air tight houses. She says that heat pumps and other systems that are designed for air tight houses only work economically, efficiently and effectively if windows are never opened. Seems strange when most people like to open windows.

Day-to-day it’s best to let the ventilation system handle air quality as it’s designed to run 24/7.
But you can open windows when you want, you just know that you’ll waste a bit more energy if you do it all the time, especially in winter. It doesn’t damage the system either.

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Nourishinghandcream · 08/09/2025 22:28

Buxusmortus · 08/09/2025 21:29

I agree it looks very strange to see hundreds of roofs with no chimneys. There are far too many new builds near me, not one has a chimney.
The houses built in the 60s, 70s and 80s all have working chimneys.

Our NB has a fake chimney and is very in keeping with the design of the house.
Neither our previous 70's house nor my sister's 80's house have a chimney (fake or not!). The nearest to it was a metal flue on the roof for the oil fired central heating.

soupyspoon · 08/09/2025 22:32

I would absolutely hate an airtight house.

soupyspoon · 08/09/2025 22:33

Suffolkposy · 08/09/2025 21:48

We have hundreds of new houses going up behind us and they have fake chimney’s! It’s so weird, they just create a small stack on the roof with a couple of chimney pots and that’s it. Why bother?

Because our architecture has a cultural identity, why would you not try to preserve that.

vipersnest1 · 08/09/2025 22:51

My last house had a working open fireplace, my current one is a modern build with no chimney at all.
I’m about to move to an older house with a working wood burner. I’m looking forward to it as nothing beats a real fire on a cold winter’s night. It will remind me of my DDad who loved a good fire. 😊

AmIHumanOrAmIAYeti · 08/09/2025 22:52

We have the only chimney on our estate. Houses are about 25 years old. Quite a lot of those metal chimneys where people have had wood burners fitted.

Foxyloxymoxy · 09/09/2025 06:50

soupyspoon · 08/09/2025 22:32

I would absolutely hate an airtight house.

Having lived in both there’s really no difference other than it’s warmer and cheaper to run.
1 electricity bill of 80 vs an electricity bill of 120 and still being cold and having to buy heating oil or gas and coal etc to light a fire. And use my time to actually light the fire.

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Riverswims · 09/09/2025 08:16

“my” house (I’m a tenant) is 4 years old with a chimney in keeping with the area

EveryDayisFriday · 09/09/2025 08:16

I live in an estate of 60s houses and the majority of residents are retired and use their fires. Actually our house has a massive chimney jutting out front as part of the architecture. Purely decorative in our case as we boarded up the chimney, the cold air flowing down made the house colder. We've also had a number of leaks from the roof/ chimney join so I totally get why new builds don't bother with them.

Foxyloxymoxy · 09/09/2025 09:00

I don’t get the push to have them to be in keeping with the area…times change! It’s 2025!

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HangingOver · 09/09/2025 09:19

We don't use ours because the jackdaws live in it 😊

Foxyloxymoxy · 09/09/2025 19:33

HangingOver · 09/09/2025 09:19

We don't use ours because the jackdaws live in it 😊

I couldn’t live with that…

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Boohoo76 · 09/09/2025 19:39

Foxyloxymoxy · 08/09/2025 20:09

That’s crazy that they require them. Here we are encouraged against them for energy efficiency standards as open fires and chimneys create large heat losses and we are moving towards Air-tight construction
Modern homes are designed to be highly insulated and airtight so a chimney would constantly draw warm air out, undermining this airtightness.
Most new houses here now use heat pumps, mechanical ventilation with heat recovery (MVHR), or other renewable/low-carbon heating systems instead of solid fuel or oil.
We are phasing out carbon emissions so it has to be done.
houses must get at least 20% of their primary energy from renewable sources here now. So solar panels and heat pumps are standard with new builds.

No it’s not crazy if you live in a rural area where the power often goes out when there is a storm. Our new build house has a log burner which we use in such circumstances.

Foxyloxymoxy · 09/09/2025 19:45

Boohoo76 · 09/09/2025 19:39

No it’s not crazy if you live in a rural area where the power often goes out when there is a storm. Our new build house has a log burner which we use in such circumstances.

I’ve lived rurally before and I’ve only been without power twice…it never lasted more than 48hours.

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