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"UK must actively prepare for war"

104 replies

RealPerson · 05/09/2025 20:07

The government has said, "For the first time in many years, there is a need to prepare for direct threats to the UK homeland, potentially in a wartime scenario"

I have been thinking about a potential nuclear war with people living through it. It seems to be a topic that is no longer categorized as a sci- fi storyline. AIBU ?

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ThreeB · 05/09/2025 21:38

GarlicPint · 05/09/2025 21:34

Thanks for this. I'd been under the impression they were used and that was what hit Chernobyl. This is probably untrue.

I can promise you that it’s untrue. The impact at Chernobyl in Feb was a drone. There has been no use of nuclear weapons in the Ukraine conflict

AliceMaforethought · 05/09/2025 21:40

More nonsense from thicktok.

GarlicPint · 05/09/2025 21:41

Heh, @ThreeB, I stopped following the news so closely this year as it was making me feel helpless ... and look what happens 😬 <renews Times subscription>

CentrifugalBumblePuppy · 05/09/2025 21:42

Russia is not using low yield tactical nukes in Ukraine.

Why post such nonsense on a public forum & scare the shite out of people?

GarlicPint · 05/09/2025 21:43

CentrifugalBumblePuppy · 05/09/2025 21:42

Russia is not using low yield tactical nukes in Ukraine.

Why post such nonsense on a public forum & scare the shite out of people?

Already conceded I had bad information.

Mewling · 05/09/2025 21:46

Your source for this is TikTok? Fuck’s sake, get a grip. You could do real damage to someone with anxiety bandying bollocks about. Real Person my arse.

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 05/09/2025 21:47

It's definitely the case that we, and many other countries in the west, are under serious and sustained attacks on digital platforms from a variety of aggressors. And there's a lot of evidence that those threats are influencing politics here. But that doesn't mean it'll inevitably turn into a fighting war.

Russia's military has failed to defeat Ukraine to an utterly humiliating extent, a country they claimed to be able to overwhelm in a few days. We're a fuck of a lot further away from Russia's borders than Ukraine is and even further from other potential threats. We're at risk of ICBMs but that's been the case for the last half a century and, having lived through the 1970s and 1980s, the risk from those today feels noticeably lower than it did back then.

Who, exactly, is the credible threat?

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 05/09/2025 21:53

I wouldn’t start panicking because of something seen on TikTok!

However I do think we should be aware of the possibilities of more cyber attacks on our infra structure and consider keeping in supplies of water, means of heating/cooking/lighting that don’t need mains gas or electric, ambient food and cash. Not saying I do this but I think it’s a good idea to think about.

RealPerson · 05/09/2025 21:55

Mewling · 05/09/2025 21:46

Your source for this is TikTok? Fuck’s sake, get a grip. You could do real damage to someone with anxiety bandying bollocks about. Real Person my arse.

Well I googled it afterwards and got search results saying the same

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RealPerson · 05/09/2025 21:57

That the government have said the statement I included at the initial post. If you copy and paste you will see news articles and etc

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ninjahamster · 05/09/2025 21:59

They have to prepare us, because there are too many leaders across the world who are unpredictable.
However, I think it’s still fairly unlikely.

GoldPoster · 05/09/2025 22:04

GarlicPint · 05/09/2025 21:34

Thanks for this. I'd been under the impression they were used and that was what hit Chernobyl. This is probably untrue.

Unbelievable. We’re all doomed even without a war, if this is what people will believe.

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 05/09/2025 22:07

Oooooh, maybe the 'emergency alert' on Sunday won't be a practice drill! 😱

oakashandelm · 05/09/2025 22:08

I am old enough to remember the Cuban Missile Crisis when the world thought Kennedy and Kruschov were going to start lobbing nukes at each other. I had sleepless nights over it.

It never happened. 🙂

Sesma · 05/09/2025 22:09

I thought this was fairly old news, though the budget is coming up so maybe it's been brought up again

oakashandelm · 05/09/2025 22:09

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 05/09/2025 22:07

Oooooh, maybe the 'emergency alert' on Sunday won't be a practice drill! 😱

Well then I'm screwed because my house doesn't have a cellar !

MushMonster · 05/09/2025 22:13

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 05/09/2025 20:28

I think they are right. We have North Korea, China and Russia actively working together to destabilise Europe and the US.

And Trump?

Dappy777 · 05/09/2025 22:41

😆Good luck getting people to go and fight. Who the f-ck is going to fight for a country that hates itself, is ashamed of its history and has completely lost its identity? I have a left-wing neighbour who flies a Palestinian flag outside her house. Everyone thinks she’s cool and progressive. If I flew a St George flag or a Union Jack, I’d probably get a brick through my window. I’d certainly get the cold shoulder from several of my neighbours. Why would I fight for that? What would I be fighting for? I no longer have a ‘tribe’. My enemy is the smug, sneering Oxbridge left who have done this to me. I could never hate anyone as much as I hate people like Owen Jones and Stewart Lee.

My great grandfather was wounded in WW1, and my grandfather joined the RAF in WW2, but if there was a war tomorrow, I wouldn’t risk scratching a toenail to defend this country. I no longer live somewhere with a shared identity and a shared history and a shared culture. I don’t feel any sense of duty or belonging. The left have got what they wanted. They’ve demonised our national heroes and taught us to feel ashamed of our history. And they’ve used mass immigration to IMPOSE a new identity on us. Fine, they can go and fight for it.

A few years ago I might have written all that in anger, or to antagonise the left. Now I really mean it. And I know many people who share my views. No, not members of the illusory, so-called faaaaaaaaar-right. Just ordinary people with deep roots in Britain who are done with this country.

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 05/09/2025 22:46

@Dappy777 Amazing. You're inventing scenarios in your head and then getting angry about them.

RealPerson · 05/09/2025 22:55

@Dappy777 I'm Scottish and feel completely the opposite, I love my country and I love to hear the national music when I walk through the city. It was strange to me then, to feel a mixture of pride and dislike to see the Scottish flags getting put up all around the country, as an anti- immigration stand. I can understand the point of it, to some extent, but I don't like it

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Morningsleepin · 05/09/2025 23:17

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 05/09/2025 22:46

@Dappy777 Amazing. You're inventing scenarios in your head and then getting angry about them.

Made me laugh

JeremiahBullfrog · 05/09/2025 23:19

Russia has spent three and a half years getting about a hundred miles into Ukraine, a country with which they share an extensive land border. I don't imagine their chances in conventional warfare with the western European powers are particularly high, or that they'd be stupid enough to think otherwise.

SummerEve · 05/09/2025 23:22

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That’s absolutely untrue. Stop lying and spreading such total nonsense and disinformation.

thelovelyview · 05/09/2025 23:24

The government doesn’t announce policy on tictok 😂

SummerEve · 05/09/2025 23:25

Mewling · 05/09/2025 21:46

Your source for this is TikTok? Fuck’s sake, get a grip. You could do real damage to someone with anxiety bandying bollocks about. Real Person my arse.

Well said. It’s about time MN started banning or somehow triaging some of these idiotic and frankly
quite irresponsible posters.

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