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Parents of ND children - AIBU to find this annoying? Borderline offensive?

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Sunat45degrees · 03/09/2025 17:00

My DS has ADHD and SPD (this is relevant). It has been a long road but he's doing really really well now and is settled in high school etc.

we all believe nephew has ADHD (at least) but for many years SIL and exBIL were in denial. They now accept it but after more than 18 months, still haven't even added him to a waitinng list for assessment. Meanwhile, his behaviour and outcomes are awful and SIL is furious that people are not more understanding of his ND. She regularly rants about how, for example, after school club is refusing to allow him come in the afternoons as his behaviour is so disruptive as she feels this is discriminatory and they need to put things in place to support him.

But I also am finding it sort of annoying or offensive or triggering (I can't quite work it out) that she seems to think her son deserves all this special attention and dispensation and she's happy to refer to him as having ADHD when she hasn't even bothered to get him diagnosed.

I can't work out if I find it offensive because she seems to think she can ust decide he has it without an actual diagnosis. Rr if it's because she's using it as an excuse for behaviours that on our side we've worked so hard to manage. Is it because I had to advocate so hard for my DS, over and over again and yet all she's doing is complain without doing anything? is this just classic irritation with in laws?

Or am I right to be a bit offended by this? The problem is I think he DOES have adhd. I also think he might be autistic too, but she doesn't want to hear it. So when she says he needs support, I agree. But his behaviour and attitude is so different to DS and she seems to think it's a blanket "get out of jail free" card, and she hasn't even had a professional assess him.

Or am I just being a bitch?

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Thursdayschild2025 · 04/09/2025 03:28

I just hope you're not letting her child distress your child. If she won't/can't parent him it's not your job or your family's job to tolerate intolerable behaviour. It actually doesn't matter (at all) what the reasons for someone's unacceptable behaviour are. That matters only to their caregivers and themselves, their health team etc. What matters to other peoople is not having their own child negatively impacted by other children. Could you be irritated/offended that he is causing disruption to your own family?

It is NOT your job to care for someone else's child, no matter who they are and no matter what the reason. There is nothing remotely unkind or untrue about that. It is NOT your job to tolerate intolerable behaviour and particularly not on behalf of your children. It is your job to protect your own child/ren. Always.

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Deepbluesea1 · 03/09/2025 17:03

this is a weird thing to get wound up about. In what ways does this impact you?

she just wants to look good /make herself feel better.

Dontlletmedownbruce · 04/09/2025 04:54

I get what you mean OP. The diagnosis doesn't change the child, she needs to be putting the work in based on his behaviour whether Adhd or not. My DS manages himself very well as a teen and it annoys me sometimes how people see him. They don't see the shit I put up with for years and years, the books I read and courses I went on, the strategies I had to implement from breaking down sequencing steps in everything to colour coding things, the list goes on. He had high sensory issues, I had to work up to everything. For example visiting the barbers 3 times before someone could touch his hair, watching videos of barber shops, using a hairdryer at increasing volume and frequency around him so he wouldn't have a meltdown when we got there. Same for going to restaurants, shops etc. It was such hard relentless work, so yes it annoys me when parents do nothing and expect everyone else to adapt. I'm all for some reasonable adjustments of course but not when it infringes on other people's wellbeing.

notmymonkeyss · 04/09/2025 05:40

It’s usually schook that pursue diagnosis. Have they suggested it and sil/bil have turned it down.?

Do you feel like some competition with sil regarding your dc?

Or are you frustrated she’s not pursuing diagnosis and linking that to your son in some way?

dizzydizzydizzy · 04/09/2025 08:06

The sad thing is that ADHD is highly treatable with medication. Obviously you can't get the medication without a diagnosis. Why would any parent who is convinced their child has ADHD not get treatment for their child?! Absolute madness!

Takeyourownline · 04/09/2025 08:43

Not everyone wants to medicate their child regardless of diagnosis and in the uk at least it’s not seen as the ideal response to nd.

Lalaloope · 04/09/2025 10:16

What I think you feel may be a sort of jealousy and resentment that she wants/gets some accommodation and support for her son even without diagnosis whereas you had to fight for diagnosis first to be able to get/ask for yours?

You may also feel irritated that she's following the stereotype of (self-diagnosed) ND parent who want to bulldoze their way into getting support just because they say so. Perhaps that offends you?

It sounds like you all convinced her that her son is ND like yours so she's decided to run with it and not go through any official channel. Have you asked her for reasons why she hasn't started the process of getting him assessed? Perhaps she feels he doesn't need it if he can already get the support he needs without it? You'd have to know her reasons for sure to be able to judge her on that.

jillyiam · 04/09/2025 10:28

Maybe because you think she never care when it was your DC but now shes all about addressing discrimination when its her own child?

NotAMessiahJustAVeryNaughtyBoy · 04/09/2025 11:57

But with her, if you dare to say, for example, that the challenges are significant becuase he's got these other issues going on plus he's probably ND, she will snap that he is "definitely got ADHD". which really, we don't actually know even though we're all pretty sure.

I completely get this. I have a relative who is currently on their 3rd attempt to get their teenage child an ADHD diagnosis. But there are other things going on as well. If anyone dares suggest that certain things are a knock on from anything other than ADHD they completely go off on one that it IS ADHD, thank you very much. The official diagnosis will somehow make everything ok apparently. All problems will instantly be solved. I know from experience with my own kids and their ND diagnoses that that isn’t the case. It drives me mad even though it’s not my circus or my monkeys.

Sunat45degrees · 04/09/2025 12:15

So many useful comments here, thank you so much.

A few responses. First, to those thinking this is me wanting to be “better” than her etc, couldn’t be further from the truth. I’m trying to work out why I have this slight sense of being offended as it doesn’t make sense. I have openly admitted that I am frustrated that DN is being let down, but that’s a different issue.

@Takeyourownline To be clear, first SHE is the one insisting he has ADHD and getting very very upset if everyone does not accept that 100%. She has also said repeatedly she wants him diagnosed so she can get medication (which she seems to think will be a silver bullet). Also, I have NO issues with accommodations without diagnosis. Hell, without that, DS would have struggled even more and his high school in particular were AMAZING while we were seeking diagnosis. Although from your posts it’s clear you just think I’ve got issues with my SIL and that actually, I should accept that she’s making specific decisions she thinks are best for her child. That’s not happening really.

And no, medication is not the ideal response to ND. But it is often the ideal response for one specific type of ND – ADHD.

The issue, in part, as @SpidersAreShitheads (great name!) highlights later is that she’s demanding a lot, some of which is not practical and more importantly to me, is suggesting a lot of these behaviours are due to ADHD and that the answer is for the rest of us to just accept it/let it go, without being willing to put the work in herself.

@Dontlletmedownbruce – absolutely re the work!!!! And the hairdresser – aaah. Well done on getting him acclimatised. We never managed it and eventually found the best way was to let him go by himself so that he could sit there and grimly tolerate it without having to try pay attention to anyone else! He was the only 8 year old I know at the barbers alone!!!

@SallyD00lally – I said “dispensations and support” and that was wrong, you’re right. Support should be there no matter what. It’s the fact that she wants his behaviour excused or ignored (ie dispensations) that I find frustrating, particularly as irritating though it is for the rest of us, it’s actually HIM who suffers – he’s lonely and isolated, and because his parents are exhausted by it, his relationship with them isn’t great either.

In fact, I think that MIGHT be part of my offense now that it’s been pointed out – as @TheTwitcher11 mentioned, there was certainly very little accommodation made from either of our families for DS’ challenges, particularly from SIL (and my own sister). And the odd time he did something “different”, SIL, in particular, did not take it well. There’s one instance in particular I remember where she allowed him to do something that was always going to end in tears and when it did, she went on and on and on shouting at him until eventually I had to remove him from the house to protect him (think carry a tray with expensive glasses when his fine and gross motor skills were still very poor, then went ballistic because he broke one).

@iirbRosb – yes, I think you’re right. She wants all the support without the work. Perhaps also, in light of what I’ve just said above that I had not been consciously aware of, that offends me more than just slightly annoys me? Especially as I’ve done a lot of the work for DS, because I want to help him and I figured out that was the best way to do so, often while not getting support from our broader family.

@GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing – YES, I think that absolutely IS part of it. This idea that “ADHD” makes children “naughty”. And again, perhaps particularly because in the past, DS has been lumped into the “he’s naughty” category when actually he was just struggling with specific issues. It’s also about downplaying the issues and making me feel she thinks that if ADHD just makes children a bit “naughty” it’s no big deal?

@Thursdayschild2025 – ironically, while DS finds him extremely annoying at times, he handles him really really well. He’s a lot older but he has that hilarious ADHD calm-whenever-anyone-else-is-freaking out thing, and he uses it brilliantly with his cousin. He can stop him/tell him off, without losing it in a way that most of the rest of us find difficult. And DN absolutely adores him. It’s lovely.

On my way over to SIL’s house, years ago, I nearly crashed the car when I saw DN and DS about to cross the road. DS was at that age where he was allowed out, but carefully, but apparently SIL had sent him off with highly impulsive DN to the shop! As I watched, DN started to run into the road. My heart stopped. DS just casually stuck out an arm and grabbed him! Grin

Thanks again everyone. This has been really helpful and I really do feel like I’ve nailed it down a bit – it’s the accommodations she’s expecting without a) doing the work and b) after refusing to do the same for DS. Just understanding that makes me feel a lot lighter and like I can work through it because I do not like feeling that way.

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Sunat45degrees · 04/09/2025 12:16

NotAMessiahJustAVeryNaughtyBoy · 04/09/2025 11:57

But with her, if you dare to say, for example, that the challenges are significant becuase he's got these other issues going on plus he's probably ND, she will snap that he is "definitely got ADHD". which really, we don't actually know even though we're all pretty sure.

I completely get this. I have a relative who is currently on their 3rd attempt to get their teenage child an ADHD diagnosis. But there are other things going on as well. If anyone dares suggest that certain things are a knock on from anything other than ADHD they completely go off on one that it IS ADHD, thank you very much. The official diagnosis will somehow make everything ok apparently. All problems will instantly be solved. I know from experience with my own kids and their ND diagnoses that that isn’t the case. It drives me mad even though it’s not my circus or my monkeys.

Yes this. But I don't find this offensive, just a bit annoying and I'm also sympathetic as she desperately wants an "easy" fix.

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Comeinupto40 · 04/09/2025 12:20

Is it because you placed a lot of importance on official diagnosis, which took a lot of work to get, and you’re annoyed that others could get support without having the same slog?

Are you a non-confrontational, by-the-book sort of person? Maybe that drove you to take the hard road and seek an official diagnosis, whereas she is arguing that her son’s needs should be met regardless of diagnosis? She’s not wrong, it’s just that her way requires her to advocate a lot more and be a lot more vocal.

ETA: Just read your other posts and realise you’ve got it figured, and probably disagree with what I’ve said here. No probs.

Takeyourownline · 04/09/2025 18:45

I think it’s really important to realise that support isn’t a prize for diagnosis or effort on the part of the parent. Each family needs to balance the pros and cons of their choices and this young man is not your son and may do better or worse in the end but that’s not your call. You should also be aware you are not privy to all the facts, while you might feel you are. So you’re working with poor data, a different set of challenges AND the emotional fall out from your own situation and journey.
It’s really sad that you feel such enmity for SIL’s families way of raising their child.. Obviously you can’t help that, but it must make it harder for both of you. How do you think you are going to lay this to rest?

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