Fed up of ghosting culture, even in professional environments

[Newstarttoday35]

I had a job interview for a role via an agency, took annual leave to attend it.
An hour after the interview the agency called me to advise the client was happy with me and wanted to take me on if I could start asap.

I replied right away saying I'd notify my manager right away and if I could confirm what the daily rate would be (to have in writing before I quit my role and confirm it's same as what was advertised).
No response. Sent another email advising I was able to start when they wanted me to. No response. Called no answer. That was 3 days ago so I assume it's off..why just ghost?
When they wanted to sign me up they were replying immediately.

Next, I'm renting out my home, or looking to. Had a prospective tenant come and view, told me he loved it and asked if he could immediately put a holding deposit down?I said I'd email him the information and how to do it.
Sent it, didn't hear back. Sent a follow up msg on spareroom asking if he was still looking to proceed, read it and didn't reply, never heard back.

Obviously had a sudden change of mind, I'm fed up of this nobody owes anyone anything culture. They wouldn't ghost people they considered important, how hard is to send a quick 'sorry no thanks/position was filled' email?
I've wasted my own time in both situations, stuff like this makes me very wary of people and to assume the worst.

I wasn't going to quit my current job before getting an agreed rate of pay.

It’s incredibly rude, especially the job one in my opinion. I think now we are so reliant on communication via text/email/social media etc, people seem less ‘real’ and responding with negative feedback/results has made us more cowardly.

And sounds like you absolutely did the right thing.

It’s horrendous - and it’s everywhere. Sorry you’ve had this OP

It's supply teaching agency, they are notoriously fickle. I don't think half of their roles they advertise even exist but I even went to the school and met the Head.

This is absolutely one of my pet hates. It is so incredibly rude.

It is..friends do it all the time too but we're supposed to just accept that for what it is.
The tenant was weird but I don't understand what happened with the job, they were desperate for me to start.

Agree op people desperate now. Got the nobody owes us anything on threads here.. honestly its so rude. Have it in friends groups too you either ghosted or nobody commits. Ah I give up. Sick it

Ha my FATHER used the "nobody owes anyone anything" line when I asked why he wasn't there for me emotionally, financially, or practically.

"You could have listened to me vent about my bullies, helped me with homework, or taught me to fix things if you had no money"

"Nobody owes anyone anything..."

@Newstarttoday35 yeah that's a nightmare.

Professional standards are just in the toilet. I have never known it so bad. I actually wouldn't assume that the job is off to be honest with you.

I started a thread about this sort of thing, but it didn't get much traction.

I work freelance, and have to deal with a lot of people. I owe money to people and they don't seem to want to send an invoice. I think that's the most pertinent point. They can't be bothered to invoice for their own money? What are they living on?

I sometimes feel as if a general strike was called and nobody told me. It's literally as though half the working world is not doing anything.

But it's very strange. I don't know if it's a transition across from people who are obsessed with protecting their well-being by never speaking to anyone.

It transitions across in work terms as well in the sense that - it used to be an absolute norm to have an out of office message on your holiday. I'm seeing a lot less of that.

Quite a few people seem to have taken the entire summer off - I'm not sure how they managed to get so much annual leave - and decided not to tell anybody external, maybe no one at all if they're working at home, and there's no out of office message when you email them, nothing when you call them.

And the value of keeping people informed - what happened to that? Today I was chasing up for a report that I should have had about three weeks ago. This is the third time I've chased. It took me absolutely ages to track down anyone at the organisation who knew anything about it. I finally spoke to a nice enough - but thoroughly disinterested chap - who said he didn't think it had been generated yet, but the person who authorises it is away for five weeks.

That was the answer I needed three weeks ago. So thanks to him for providing it, but it should not have felt like like getting blood out of a stone to get it. And the lack of the information completely changes how I plan my own work.

argh.

@Newstarttoday35 basically I feel your pain and I apologise for the rant 💐

That agency must be dodgy as fuck. In that they were so ashamed of the low pay for the job they didn't even have the guts to tell you. They hoped you'd just do the job without finding out the daily rate? Wankers.

The tenant one is a bit less wankery, though equally annoying I'm sure. They probably did have financial barriers. You had a lucky escape with them if they're that flaky.

Can you message the head of the school directly and explain? Cut out the middle man (person)? I work in a field where these middle men companies exist, seem to ramp up the prices, slow down or cock up the process and add zero value/cost even more… i genuinely do not understand why we can’t do things directly anymore. I’d circumvent and get employed directly.

I was offered a interview, recently. I had to book the entire day off for it, due to the nature of my current job. I received a call, late morning on interview day, to say they were having to reassess the hours they could offer and would therefore need to postpone the interview and would get back to me. I heard nothing; left a message after a week asking for an update - no response. They then readvertised the job with only a two hour difference in the weekly hours. I've still heard nothing.
I'm assuming they didn't get the applicants they were hoping for, the first time around. But why invite me for interview at all, if that was the case? Very rude and inconsiderate.

Same with "friends" who contact you asking how you are, so you reply and then they just ghost...no response . Why bother asking then?

One thing I think about this is that, at work this is, some people simply can’t cope if you go off script. Which is what our amazing education system has bought us.

Ghosting is incredibly rude. The number of job interviews I had where I attended and heard nothing is ridiculous. One job I applied for was a 20 min Teams interview then if I was successful, the 2nd stage interviews, face 2 face, were going to be on certain dates as listed on the company website. I didn't hear until a week after the dates of the 2nd interview!

I think a lot of supply agencies post jobs in order to attract new teachers. A couple of years ago, I was in a non-teaching job after not being able to find a job teaching my niche A Level subject. I saw a job advertised by an agency for a permanent teacher in that subject in the next town over. I contacted them and they kept asking about my commuting distance, subjects I was willing to teach etc, and I just kept saying I was in a permanent job and was only interested in the job they had advertised. I explicitly asked if the job existed and they refused to confirm or deny it. Funnily enough, a few weeks later, a senior member of staff in the same agency posted on LinkedIn about how unethical it was to post ghost jobs to attract staff. I contacted him directly and stated they literally did that to me. I got an apology and apparently that agent was told not to do it again. They claimed they were just recruiting teachers in that field...but the job advert sounded like it was talking about a specific role.