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Thread 17: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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DisappointedReader · 02/09/2025 13:42

The Observer's original exposé: The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...
The 14 Observer items currently available on their online 'The real Salt Path' page: The real Salt Path | The Observer
More from The Observer:
‘Hope is extinguished’: CBD patients respond to Salt Path...
The real Salt Path | The Observer (The Slow Newscast)
Links to more Observer videos can be found in an early post of this new thread and here: Observer YouTube Channel: The Observer UK - YouTube
Working timeline and references: can be found in early posts of this new Thread 17.
Raynor Winn/Sally Walker's statement: Raynor Winn
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New posters joining us in the genuine spirit of our civil discourse are welcome. It would be helpful to get the background from at least some of the Observer items above before posting.
To all - Please be extremely cautious when it comes to naming or implicating people and addresses not in the public eye or with no direct connection to the story, and around the understandable health speculations, especially where details are unclear or still emerging. Remember, even Hollywood rabbits attract the odd flea. Please do not engage with visitors who seem to have their own agenda and seek to derail. Avoid @'ing and quoting them as - from experience - this will only encourage them back to the threads. We have done amazingly well together for sixteen very interesting, very serious and very silly threads so far. I can't be here as much as I'd like so all help with keeping our discussion walking along in our usual reasonable and respectful fashion is very welcome.

Yes, it really is Thread 17. I'm as in need of smelling salts as the next person.

We seek them here, we seek them there, mumsnetters seek them everywhere: just where are the elusive How not to Dal dy Dir and On Winter Hill?

#handwavium #appropriation

Keep to the path. No saltiness. May the fudge be with you.

The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...

The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...

Penniless and homeless, the Winns found fame and fortune with the story of their 630-mile walk to salvation. We can reveal that the truth behind it is ve...

https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-real-salt-path-how-the-couple-behind-a-bestseller-left-a-trail-of-debt-and-deceit

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HatStickBoots · 23/09/2025 12:56

I suppose she could find a really elderly man to pretend to be Tim… and the real Tim travels quietly abroad and sets up home somewhere in Switzerland? Sally could join him once the new, old Tim has died. Her next series of books will come after she has rejuvenated herself and emerged phoenix-like from the ashes of the past.
Or, she could jump out randomly at people walking the coast past showering them with salt and shouting that they’ve been “salted” … maybe getting a contract with Kettle chips.

AncientHarpy · 23/09/2025 13:11

HatStickBoots · 23/09/2025 12:56

I suppose she could find a really elderly man to pretend to be Tim… and the real Tim travels quietly abroad and sets up home somewhere in Switzerland? Sally could join him once the new, old Tim has died. Her next series of books will come after she has rejuvenated herself and emerged phoenix-like from the ashes of the past.
Or, she could jump out randomly at people walking the coast past showering them with salt and shouting that they’ve been “salted” … maybe getting a contract with Kettle chips.

Two excellent suggestions. I like the idea of her hiring a body double 'Moth', preferably in an advanced state of ill-health. Or she could take Fake Moth to Dignitas and then do a Swiss Walk of Mourning afterwards on the Via Alpina, with Real Tim masquerading as her PA in a black wig and moustache, looking in radiant good health.

HatStickBoots · 23/09/2025 13:24

AncientHarpy · 23/09/2025 13:11

Two excellent suggestions. I like the idea of her hiring a body double 'Moth', preferably in an advanced state of ill-health. Or she could take Fake Moth to Dignitas and then do a Swiss Walk of Mourning afterwards on the Via Alpina, with Real Tim masquerading as her PA in a black wig and moustache, looking in radiant good health.

I should not have read that just after I’d taken a huge bite of an apple 🤣

ShrinkWrappedInSeattle · 23/09/2025 13:35

Lots going on in the Shrinkwrapped household so I’ve just been catching up.
The Gansey knitters video and the lab coat comment have brought much-needed mirth this morning - thank you @DisappointedReader and @AgitatedGoose ❤️ (and also to @HatStickBoots for the image of SalRay chucking salt at unsuspecting hikers). Wonderful.
Tick Tack! 😂

DisappointedReader · 23/09/2025 13:42

Stop it @ShrinkWrappedInSeattle ! I think Salray breathily whispering Tick Tack in a sinister fashion whilst wearing a doctor's white coat in the dark is the stuff of nightmares!

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BeguiledSilence · 23/09/2025 13:44

DisappointedReader · 23/09/2025 13:42

Stop it @ShrinkWrappedInSeattle ! I think Salray breathily whispering Tick Tack in a sinister fashion whilst wearing a doctor's white coat in the dark is the stuff of nightmares!

I was working in the lab late one night .... tic tac, tic tac

ShrinkWrappedInSeattle · 23/09/2025 13:45

DisappointedReader · 23/09/2025 13:42

Stop it @ShrinkWrappedInSeattle ! I think Salray breathily whispering Tick Tack in a sinister fashion whilst wearing a doctor's white coat in the dark is the stuff of nightmares!

I guess so…but personally I’m saving the video for those moments when I need to cry with laughter. How did the audience keep a straight face?!

BeguiledSilence · 23/09/2025 13:57

ShrinkWrappedInSeattle · 23/09/2025 13:45

I guess so…but personally I’m saving the video for those moments when I need to cry with laughter. How did the audience keep a straight face?!

It reminds of going to Saturday morning pictures, as a child, at the local cinema. Before the films would start we had to sit through the National Anthem - and collectively, as the last notes died, we would roar: "On with the show!"

DisappointedReader · 23/09/2025 13:58

BeguiledSilence · 23/09/2025 13:44

I was working in the lab late one night .... tic tac, tic tac

All I can say is, I'm very glad that the worst of my menopause symptoms are over!

And luckily without the 'help' of Dr Sal!

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DisappointedReader · 23/09/2025 14:11

@AncientHarpy One assumed the photographers hanging around where they're living have dispersed.
Everyone with a mobile phone camera is paparazzi these days and Saltim have upset a lot of people.

I think it's dead in the water for now
Have faith.

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BeguiledSilence · 23/09/2025 14:14

@HatStickBoots I suppose she could find a really elderly man to pretend to be Tim… and the real Tim travels quietly abroad
@AncientHarpy I like the idea of her hiring a body double 'Moth', preferably in an advanced state of ill-health.

Oh don't, now I can't help wondering if her screenwriter inherited from her father.

And imagining a version of Operation Mincemeat off Dennis Head.

(SalRay shouldn't have kept saying people supposedly said they were tramps).

BBC NEWS | England | Tramp's body given to artist's estate

Operation Mincemeat - Wikipedia

BBC NEWS | England | Tramp's body given to artist's estate

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2442925.stm

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 23/09/2025 14:16

I am another hoping that Our Chloe is beavering away behind the scenes talking to people who don't want to be publically identified but don't mind giving their side of the story. Plenty of people available to talk to - from those who suffered from the 'not paying the bills' in Wales to those who were on courses with Tim (who will be able to tell whether he really did graduate/finish his courses) and those who have worked with both or either of them since.

If enough people are guaranteed no publicity I think that all the real dirt will come out because it seems that the Walkers treated a lot of people badly and these people might want to have their day, but without being put in the public eye.

WynkenDeWorde · 23/09/2025 14:58

AncientHarpy · 23/09/2025 13:11

Two excellent suggestions. I like the idea of her hiring a body double 'Moth', preferably in an advanced state of ill-health. Or she could take Fake Moth to Dignitas and then do a Swiss Walk of Mourning afterwards on the Via Alpina, with Real Tim masquerading as her PA in a black wig and moustache, looking in radiant good health.

Is it very bad of me that I’m now mentally re-casting this classic British war-film (wait for it, wait for it…) as ‘I was Mothy’s Double’?

Thread 17: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?
Uricon2 · 23/09/2025 15:52

DisappointedReader · 23/09/2025 13:42

Stop it @ShrinkWrappedInSeattle ! I think Salray breathily whispering Tick Tack in a sinister fashion whilst wearing a doctor's white coat in the dark is the stuff of nightmares!

Nailed it. It is actually quite menacing. She sounds like she's talking about abductions by seamonsters, or a ghostly pirate crew coming ashore to pillage the town rather than....knitting a sweater.

Tik...tak...(ominous pause) tik...tak..

I'm scaring myself now!

Uricon2 · 23/09/2025 15:54

AncientHarpy · 23/09/2025 13:11

Two excellent suggestions. I like the idea of her hiring a body double 'Moth', preferably in an advanced state of ill-health. Or she could take Fake Moth to Dignitas and then do a Swiss Walk of Mourning afterwards on the Via Alpina, with Real Tim masquerading as her PA in a black wig and moustache, looking in radiant good health.

If Martin Kemp goes missing, we'll know where to look.

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 23/09/2025 16:47

Uricon2 · 23/09/2025 15:54

If Martin Kemp goes missing, we'll know where to look.

Well, most of us will be in the frame for a start...😍

Fandango52 · 23/09/2025 16:59

Uricon2 · 23/09/2025 15:52

Nailed it. It is actually quite menacing. She sounds like she's talking about abductions by seamonsters, or a ghostly pirate crew coming ashore to pillage the town rather than....knitting a sweater.

Tik...tak...(ominous pause) tik...tak..

I'm scaring myself now!

I would love for Stephen King to take inspiration from this. Stephen, if you’re reading, please can your next novel be called ‘Tick…. Tack…’ and can it feature a villain named Raymoth whose backstory is a mystery and who can only communicate by hissing ‘Tick…. Tack…’ or by speaking in cliches?

Uricon2 · 23/09/2025 17:26

Fandango52 · 23/09/2025 16:59

I would love for Stephen King to take inspiration from this. Stephen, if you’re reading, please can your next novel be called ‘Tick…. Tack…’ and can it feature a villain named Raymoth whose backstory is a mystery and who can only communicate by hissing ‘Tick…. Tack…’ or by speaking in cliches?

I had a uni friend who was from Maine and knew SK quite well. Very quiet and shy but nice, apparently.

Totally agree the King of Terror should do this (and share royalties for the inspiration)

Aspanielstolemysanity · 23/09/2025 17:48

Fandango52 · 23/09/2025 16:59

I would love for Stephen King to take inspiration from this. Stephen, if you’re reading, please can your next novel be called ‘Tick…. Tack…’ and can it feature a villain named Raymoth whose backstory is a mystery and who can only communicate by hissing ‘Tick…. Tack…’ or by speaking in cliches?

Grin
HatStickBoots · 23/09/2025 18:08

I’m imagining the WWs in a remake of Misery now….

DoubtfulCat · 23/09/2025 18:35

follows the others through thickets of gorse, bramble, nameless horrors whispering tick…tack…tick…

Uricon2 · 23/09/2025 19:08

A Bond villain called Raymoth (with their malevolent assistant Tick Tack) could work.

They could sip organic cider, whispering menacingly "History in a glass, Mr Bond" while the hero is held hostage over a particularly perilous Cornish cliff. He is saved from doom upon the rocks by the Poet Laureate and a bevy of incredibly glamourous women who have just shown up in a charabanc.

It would be like Holmes at the Reichenbach Falls only with more people.

Peladon · 23/09/2025 19:47

Uricon2 · 23/09/2025 19:08

A Bond villain called Raymoth (with their malevolent assistant Tick Tack) could work.

They could sip organic cider, whispering menacingly "History in a glass, Mr Bond" while the hero is held hostage over a particularly perilous Cornish cliff. He is saved from doom upon the rocks by the Poet Laureate and a bevy of incredibly glamourous women who have just shown up in a charabanc.

It would be like Holmes at the Reichenbach Falls only with more people.

Didn't the hero go off the cliff at Reichenbach?

DreamyHiker · 23/09/2025 19:59

Just been rereading a favourite book from my youth and came across this which reminded me of a certain individual!

Matilda told such Dreadful Lies,
It made one Gasp and Stretch one's Eyes;
Her Aunt, who, from her Earliest Youth,
Had kept a Strict Regard for Truth,
Attempted to Believe Matilda:
The effort very nearly killed her,
And would have done so, had not She
Discovered this Infirmity.
For once, towards the Close of Day,
Matilda, growing tired of play,
And finding she was left alone,
Went tiptoe to the Telephone
And summoned the Immediate Aid
Of London's Noble Fire-Brigade.
Within an hour the Gallant Band
Were pouring in on every hand,
From Putney, Hackney Downs, and Bow
With Courage high and Hearts a-glow
They galloped, roaring through the Town
'Matilda's House is Burning Down!'
Inspired by British Cheers and Loud
Proceeding from the Frenzied Crowd,
They ran their ladders through a score
Of windows on the Ball Room Floor;
And took Peculiar Pains to Souse
The Pictures up and down the House,
Until Matilda's Aunt succeeded
In showing them they were not needed;
And even then she had to pay
To get the Men to go away!

It happened that a few Weeks later
Her Aunt was off to the Theatre
To see that Interesting Play
The Second Mrs Tanqueray.
She had refused to take her Niece
To hear this Entertaining Piece:
A Deprivation Just and Wise
To Punish her for Telling Lies.
That Night a Fire did break out-
You should have heard Matilda Shout!
You should have heard her Scream and Bawl,
And throw the window up and call
To People passing in the Street-
(The rapidly increasing Heat
Encouraging her to obtain
Their confidence)-but all in vain!
For every time She shouted 'Fire!'
They only answered 'Little Liar'!
And therefore when her Aunt returned,
Matilda, and the House, were Burned.
Poem © 'Matilda, Who Told Lies and was Burned to Death' by Hilaire Belloc from Cautionary Tales for Children (© Hilaire Belloc 1907) is reproduced by permission of Peters Fraser & Dunlop (www.petersfraserdunlop.com) on behalf of the Estate of Hilaire Bell

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HatStickBoots · 23/09/2025 20:19

Along the Stephen King theme..
All work and no play makes Moth a dull boy

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