Would you like to round up to £1? No I fucking wouldnt.

[DavAtTheCampaignForMoreBankHolidays]

I cant be the only one who is getting increasingly pissed off at being asked to donate 20p everytine I pay for something?

The recent one in a charity shop was being asked to round up to the nearest pound AND then being asked to donate 25p. In fact, it wasnt even asked, it was "shall I round it up?" and "press green to say yes".

I always end up feeling really tight but apart from the fact that it would cost a fortune if I gave a donation every time I was asked, I really resent that businesses get tax relief for this whilst also bragging that they donated £x to charity.

I'm starting to think it's ok. More efficient than tins and people having to russle in their handbags and purses for loose change. More discrete too. It stops the "have one yourself darling" also from the creepy men at the bar.

Yet another charity hate thread.

if you don’t want to donate , you decline.

Some people find it hard/embarrassing/awkward to decline. And some cashiers are sneery if you decline.
this isn’t hatred of charity, it’s hatred of being pressured - essentially chugged.

I don't hate charities - wouldn't go in charity shops if I did.
But I don't like certain approaches. Being sprung on by chuggers is annoying.

What on earth is wrong with a man offering to buy a drink for a barmaid?

Jeeeeeez, are we just offended at everything now?

I have staff that press the red button for me, usually when I have the kids but I always think so I look that poor

@blueclip

Some people find it hard/embarrassing/awkward to decline. And some cashiers are sneery if you decline.
this isn’t hatred of charity, it’s hatred of being pressured - essentially chugged.

@RoverReturn

I don't hate charities - wouldn't go in charity shops if I did.
But I don't like certain approaches. Being sprung on by chuggers is annoying.

Exactly. Saying 'this is a charity hating thread,' and 'no-one forces you to give' is such a weak argument. As you say, some people (chuggers) pressure people, and some people are quite vulnerable and too 'nice' and feel forced to give. I have noticed when I am out and about that they typically target older women - 60+ I would say.

Male chuggers do this moreso, but female ones do too. I have seen women in their 60s, 70s, and 80s signing up in the foyer of Morrisons and Sainsburys, after being cornered by a persistent chugger, and I am willing to bet that they probably can't afford to give, but they are just too scared to say no/to refuse.

Not me! GenX, (mid-late 50s,) resting-bitch-face, with a 'fuck off and leave me alone' look. They rarely bother me. If they glance over at me, and say 'do you like children/animals/the environment madam?' I am just like 'no.'

I'm not saying ALL women over 60 are daft mugs who are 'too nice' and scared to say no, but they are more likely to be targetted, and are the most likely demographic to be scammed. (Not saying chuggers are scammers, but they do target older people to sign up to their charideee.' 🙄)

I don't personally like the green or red buttons that nullify the benefits of contactless and force you to make a choice before you can pay for your goods (assuming that you can see and understand the choice of course, asdiscussed above)...

However, I definitely hate it when assistants 'get involved' in asking you to donate, rather than just leaving you alone to choose green or red.

I don't remember, in the old days of charity tins for loose change on the counter, anybody ever rattling the tin at me during the purchase or even mentioning it. It was there unobtrusive for if you wanted to give anything; it was very easily ignorable if you didn't/couldn't afford to.

That's why I'd much prefer to see separate basic charity card terminals rolled out, as an equivalent. Nobody asking or pressuring you; simply finish paying for your goods as normal and then, if you want to, scan your card again on the separate charity terminal - just like we always used to do with cash.

I said that once to a dog charity person… “Do you like dogs?”

“No…I actually hate them.” #truth

That's like the equivalent of calling somebody a man-hater, because she objects to the creepy kind of men who deliberately invade your personal space, get in your face and pressurise you into speaking to them on their terms.

My dsis and her dh used to make a regular monthly payment to Wateraid.
The charity rang them and tried to badger them to increase the payment.
Eventually her dh felt he his"NO" wasn't being heard and just said "Accept the amount we pay or I'll cancel it straight away and you'll get nothing

Because if one person in a group is a non tipper on principal it makes it difficult for the others who tip

Ah, I see what you mean... but even so, I don't see why somebody not wanting to reward deliberately shoddy service is the one who makes it awkward, rather than the person/people who are insisting that they should show their gratitude for bad treatment.

Yes, it's very poor behaviour on the charity's part.

Plenty of them deliberately start by asking a low amount - typically £2 or £3 a month - by insisting that they can do a lot of good with enough people giving them £2 every month... but it's all just a bait to lure you in their system, before they soon start asking for the amount that they really wanted from you all along.

And then there are the people who never tip, whatever the service, those people are not my fave dinner companions

Do you think it gets worse nearer Christmas.,?
There seems to be an influx of charities supporting help with children at this time.
Christmas can be an emotional time for lots of us. They seem to invest in this .

My problem is that if there is a staff member near you when paying and have the screen of extra tips or charity, it’s so obvious that you selected no. The first time I come across this was before contactless so you could look to press buttons.

I bet some of you experienced this when dealing with a late relative’s estate.

Somehow, charities heard about the death of someone and then write to their estate asking could you consider a donation to help them. That is emotional begging. My mum’s friend had that when dealing with her late DM’s estate. On the will she specified amounts and charities to give to. She followed that instruction and didn’t give anything to the 5-6 charities that wrote to her.

That’s really low…preying on grieving families.

I wouldn't let a grumpy waiter ruin a meal out either.

But I also wouldn't be quick to tip. And I have absolutely no issue about tipping in general.

No need for your snarky remarks to other posters.

It's shameless and disgusting.

However, it's often 1000 times worse when people DO actually leave a bequest to a charity in their wills. They tend to take over and can make life a misery for your grieving family.

Your loved one and their precious home become an asset that they demand be liquidated - for the very best possible price and the very quickest speed.

You may think that you've left your affairs to be dealt with sensitively by your children in their own way and their own good time, with a token small percentage to be given to a charity once it's all wound up; but many of the charities will impose and demand and want the power of the executors but without any of the work (or costs).

I bought a few bits in Superdrug today, at the till I was asked if I wanted to buy shower gel or tissues, to press the red or green button on the chip and pin to donate or decline a charity donation. She then told me about and gave me a leaflet regarding the Superdrug Sim Card, finally she asked me to press the red sad face or the green happy face to confirm that she had told me about the sim deal.

That’s 5 Friction Points for 1 transaction! 😵‍💫 People want frictionless transactions!

I may have said this earlier on in the thread. If people wanted to buy stuff like in the Superdrug example, shower gel or tissues, they would have picked these up before going to the tills!

I'd be very tempted to explain to them that it's going to take us both an immensely long time if they go through every one of their products in turn and ask if I want to buy it - and suggest that maybe it would be massively quicker and far more efficient if they just put all of their stock out on shelves and left people to choose and pick up everything that they want to buy and bring it to the till themselves.

I wouldn't, of course, as it's most probably some poor person on NMW who's been ordered to do it and hates that; although I'd consider writing to their head office if the policy persisted, or maybe share my 'handy top tip' on their Twitter feed every time it happened.