Aibu to record my neighbours kids

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A local child with ADHD has been throwing things at my window (he broke a neighbours window a few months ago) trying to feed my dog, following me, and generally targeting me (I am disabled) all encouraged by his parents who previously served prison sentences who then turn it around on me when I record . The mother has been harassing me also.
I reported it all and the council have advised me I can only record within my property boundaries and that there are rules recording children. Whilst also telling me that without evidence they can’t persue it. yes I’m aware that children can’t be held criminally responsible

You need to ring the police at the time when it happens and get a ring doorbell if you have a front door. Then it'll be up to them to seek corroborating footage. But no I don't think it's appropriate to film children even if they're acting out and causing damage.

He scratched someones car badly and on purpose

You can record children causing criminal damage etc. it’s not against the law
You cannot however upload it online etc.

For the purposes of collecting evidence for the police that’s fine

Incorrect. As is the council of the OP.

There is NO expectation of privacy in a public place and anything the eye can see you can film. There is no law against filming children in public OR uploading/distributing the footage.

The exception would be making and distribution of obscene images of children.

CCTV needs to be pointing at your own property not beyond it. You are allowed to record in public (as in not from your private house) where there is no expectation of privacy, which is why a dashcam inside the car is fine.

If he's under the age of criminal responsibility I don't think you can do anything.

Why did you say incorrect to my post when we are saying the same thing ??

Because you said "you cannot however upload it (kids) online etc" which is incorrect. There is no law against photographing, videoing or sharing images of children (only obscene/indecent images are prohibited by law).

And of course orgs have to comply with GDPR but no individual is required to adhere to GDPR when using camera equipment in a public place so that does not apply to the OP either.

The law around photography/videography law is constantly mis-quoted and misunderstood and people just write any old crap which helps no-one and certainly won't help the OP in this case when even the advice given to her by the Council was complete nonsense.

OK I see
my post lacked detail

I was saying you can record children commiting a criminal act but there could be consequences if you upload them online
Even innocent images in the U.K. of children ( taken in public places ) can breach a child’s right to privacy. So parents can request removal or take things further if they aren’t

I hope you've got a sign up stating that cameras are in use and are recording.

There is no right to privacy in public!

Targeted photographs intended to stalk, harass or intimidate a child are not permitted

So if you take an image of a child committing a crime and post it online
That falls within this category
The images should go to the police and not be posted online by members of the public

So OP can record the neighbours kids but the images must go to the police and not be put online

( non targeted photos too can breach the right to privacy depending on the setting )

Definitely involve the police. Look what happened to that poor elderly man who was killed by the young people. Hopefully the police have learned lessons from that in how they respond to this sort of harassment. Also get cameras put up.

You need to get cctv installed tbh, all around your home x

Again that is incorrect. There is no law to prevent any individual (such as the OP) from putting images of children, taken in public, to the internet. Unless they are indecent images.

As I stated previously "there is no expectation of privacy in a public place" therefore there is no crime, no breach, and no consequences, and no permission required, in the UK, for any individual to photo, video or distribute (non indecent) images of children, taken in public.

Organisations on the other hand are subject to their own internal policies and of course GDPR.

You can record your property, within the bounds of your property. So it should then be apparent if e.g. something comes flying from your neighbours garden, or their kid comes into your property. And potentially sound.

Again this is not correct. Harassment MAY be found to be taking place, following an investigation by Police, it is not a default arising from the posting of pics online. Harassment is a different crime with different criteria, which posting pics of children online may or may not meet.

Sigh. Again incorrect.

You can film anything, that is in public, from ANYWHERE.

If you are an individual and you are not filming indecent images of children YOU CAN FILM ANYTHING YOU WANT THAT IS PUBLIC FROM ANYWHERE AT ANY TIME.

I could sit in my house at my window and film you and your (clothed) kids in your garden or the street all day long if I wanted to. You MAY then have cause to complain of harassment but that requires more than just taking boring pics of you and your sprogs to be a crime.

Look up the law or the PINAC movement and educate yourself to avoid spouting misleading advice.

a bit extreme but could you wear a body cam?

You can record anyone on public property. Bar up skirting, there aren't really any laws about it. Ask the police which laws they are referring to. However, it doesn't seem particularly safe for you to do that. Something like a ring doorbell is a good shout if that's possible for you.