AIBU to think snoring is

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…noise?? Camping, hostels, hotels. All with quiet times and all which don’t tolerate noise through the night so everyone can sleep. Apart from snoring, which is apparently not noise.

Specifically this weekend stuck in a tent, with multiple people making loud noises all night long - everywhere we went, same problem. I know it’s not voluntary noise, but surely if it were any other noise type it wouldn’t be tolerated throughout the night. It has a massive detrimental effect on others, so what can be done? Surely a snorers zone wouldn’t be out of the question?

It’s extra frustrating as it’s literally the noise of someone sleeping which is the thing they are preventing those around them from doing. I lie awake for hours wondering how it can be arranged into some kind of rota where the snorers sleep half the night and then stay awake so the rest of us can sleep half the night. Instead of it always being the ones making the noise who get the full nights sleep. Are snorers aware that they are laid sleeping in the middle of many others who are laid awake because of the noise?

I’ve already got earplugs and if I’m in a hotel I’ll have sleepheadphones too with white noise playing through them, but obviously can’t have those on a campsite. These things are usually OK in a hotel or holiday let but no help at all in hostels and campsites.

Please tell me I’m being unreasonable and antisocial, I probably am but I haven’t slept in days so.

My ex husband snored and it was absolutely horrendous. I relate.

It’s funny how when dogs snore it’s cute, but when humans do it’s not.

DH is a heavy snorer. Turns out he has sleep apnoea and now uses a cpap machine. We use electric hookup when camping for this reason. There is no way I could let him subject others to that.

If tents around you are snoring then there isn't much you can do. However I would casually mention it in passing "gosh who is the snorer in your tent? I thought RAF x were on training exercises last night" and laugh it off. A little passive aggressive but does get my goat because they must know about it. Snoring can lead to so many health conditions. My husband alone on a sleep study was waking up 30 times an hour through snoring. Since the cpap his blood pressure has dropped, he feels refreshed and much clearer headed.

why Can’t you have sleep headphones when camping. I always listen to something in order to fall asleep.

I wondered this too. Of course you can.

I’m not sure you’re right in saying that all other noise is not tolerated, but snoring is the exception. If someone had a bad cough, their cough would be accepted, for example.

However I would casually mention it in passing "gosh who is the snorer in your tent? I thought RAF x were on training exercises last night" and laugh it off. A little passive aggressive but does get my goat because they must know about it.

Unless they've been blessed with an equally unkind person in their life that likes to humiliate them (and yes, it can be humiliating for somebody to have a random with a tinkly laugh and headtilt imply that they aren't performing Sleeping adequately and sound like a fighter plane/pig/elephant/warthog/anything that isn't delicate and feminine), why would they know they snore - they're asleep?

The loudest snorer I ever knew was one of those people who would make 'jokes' at other people's expense, though. I wondered if it was at least in part an attempt to deflect away from the fact that they did it - but after some thought, I reached the conclusion that, no, they were just happiest when being unkind to others.

@NeverDropYourMooncup i can't imagine that someone with bad snoring has got to adulthood without someone ever mentioning it. Sleepovers as a teen, family get togethers, holidaying with family etc. If someone who is camping far enough away to be the equivalent of a room next door can hear you then it's not exactly light snoring.

Anyone who is told that they are a bad snorer should be doing something about it. Sleep apnoea isn't something to shrug off and there are ways of dealing with it.

Phone battery and electrics. It’s a push to get my electrics to last more than 3+ days and nights even with my battery pack on full charge. And the battery is needed during the day for navigation and safety, there is no spare to use the phone in the evening or ovenight.

People don't always snore all their lives, though - allergies, hayfever (particularly relevant when camping, I'd imagine), inflamed tonsills/adenoids, colds and suchlike can also cause it, as can sleeping in a dodgy position, such as on the ground or being particularly tired/consuming alcohol/any number of reasons.

In addition, even if somebody knows they snore (and they really don't need public digs from randoms in that situation), there aren't always cures - if they've got OSA, maybe a CPAP could help once they've got through the months/years of waiting for a referral, then a home sleep study, then another sleep study to check the results aren't a one-off, then a machine issued, maybe some sort of mandibular advancement device, maybe a shaped pillow or being forcibly wedged onto their side, but none of those - or excruciatingly painful surgery on the palate/tonsils/adenoids - is necessarily going to work; there's a multi million pound market for 'stop snoring' hogwash in addition to the medical side, sprays, tapes, things to adjust the jaw position, etc, after all.

And there is also the aspect of malicious intent. For a small number of people, it's highly amusing to them to make snorting noises and try to humiliate others, particularly women, about a time when they are most vulnerable, being asleep. After all, it's not regarded as being a particularly feminine thing to do, so it can be hilarious to such people to see a woman's face drop and then for her to wish she could curl up and die as the pig noises start. It can be used to dissuade somebody from going on holiday, taking courses that require overnight stays, even from considering dating - because why would somebody else ever be interested in a person who sounds so disgusting - even when they don't snore at all?

You may say I'm projecting my own insecurities here - you'd be right. My ex did all that. Turns out that I don't snore, at least according to DP, multiple recordings and all the insistence from my kids at the time that I didn't snore. It was just the ex screwing with my head. One jokey comment from a random at a campsite would still have me wanting to go home immediately, because five years of humiliation to keep me in my place and turning down any opportunities that might result in somebody else knowing I sounded so awful (when I didn't) doesn't go away that easily.

I don't know. I used to snore and it turns out I have sleep apnea. People used to joke about it. But I was so embarrassed I wouldn't stay at friends houses and wouldn't go camping. It's pretty miserable. I bought so many devices that didn't work. Anyway I've got a CPAP machine now and that's stopped it.

Omg this is my issue today lol and how funny I come on and you have posted about it!
I feel for you, but the consolation is it’s temporary right? Do what you can to block it out short of going to other tents and telling them to shut tfu 🤦‍♀️🤣

I have this problem at home, so below me the woman has her bf there especially weekends and in the holidays like now.
Smart guy because it’s given him somewhere to live, inbetween wherever else he goes apparently he lived with family until they met, then continued but kind of lives here, hate men like that.

Anyway old house/badly/maybe not even properly conversion.
bedrooms at the back, both have boilers in the rooms. So there will be gaps etc. Because shoddy work.
So he snores all night, it’s really bad. Especially when I know i don’t have to suffer it really if he went to where he is supposed to live. It’s really disturbing my sleep.
Also unfair that it’s when he is here he has the to up loud okay i don’t care it’s until the council rules time of 11pm. Why do we have to suffer not only that my child who is right above, so I will be taking action about it in due course.
They can’t say a child has to wait until he’s finished with his favourite programmes.
He already knows as they had a warning before to me it’s just another man being disrespectful and crossing boundaries/won’t be told what to do. And the gf wants to hold on to him, clearly especially as they have a child together.
But just conveniently they don’t live together when it suits.

Imagine if it turned out when you do finally get to sleep, you also snore 😱 I snore badly since I was pregnant. Nothing I've tried has helped. Occasionally overnight guests have joked about it, but I actually sleep really badly and when I'm not asleep snoring I have insomnia and generally am awake from 3am to 5am, and you know what, those people snore too! I've never told them though. We've never had anyone over who doesn't make some sort of noise at some point in the night, whether it's snoring or sleep talking. I've never thought twice about it, humans, and animals, make sounds when they're sleeping. Breathing is pretty important. I don't think you can begrudge fellow campers breathing through the night however loud it is. You can only manage your own sleep and get earplugs and those headbands that play white noise. I use both as I can't sleep if I can hear other people.

Becareful I tried sleeping with headphones on in a futile attempt to learn a language via hypnopedia (the technique, not a language!).

However, I woke in the night and was very concerned as I could no longer turn my head, I thought I might have had a stroke - but it was because these were those big headphones of yesteryear not those tiddly little one that those youngsters and kiddlywinks use today.

It didn't help with the language either.

Surely there are opportunities to recharge your battery pack? Or to recharge the devices themselves.

I take every opportunity to charge but this weekend I’ve been out from Friday night to today and there hasn’t been a single spot to charge, from leaving home on Friday lunchtime to getting into a coffee shop this morning (which is when I posted this)

Couldnt even charge on trains as nowhere to sit and too crowded. Phone goes onto emergency use/navigation use only really when out, no way could it manage eight hours of white noise overnight.

Light sleepers are really, really annoying.