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Dreadful family holiday

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Goldie7878 · 23/08/2025 11:01

I returned from an extended family holiday, which has left me feeling quite frankly pretty traumatised, without sounding overly dramatic. I had not realised how much my obtuse childhood was still impacting on me and how 5 days with my extended family has left me feeling quite unwell. It is all largely centered around a foundation of second guessing peoples emotions, feeling continually like I have done something wrong, excessive people pleasing which is an offshoot of childhood coping mechanisms and now seeing the impact of my parents behaviour on other people. I had an upbringing punctuated by the management of my mothers alcohol abuse whereby she would frequently tell me I was mad/weird/am embarrassment etc. I was largely terrified of my mums behaviour and there were frequent incidents of me running away to try and avoid it/cope with it. Once i went so far away the police had to go looking for me and I was gone for two days. This was in response to my mum saying she wished I'd "F888 off and not come back". Sometimes my father would intervene (ie get angry with my mum but eventually what happened would be that mum would get sad and it would then be my fault for making a "fuss"). I am not talking about situations where Mum got a bit tipsy, I mean things like binge drinking to an extent where she'd wake me up in the night as a teenager to be verbally abusive when I had school the next day, or drink so much she'd projectile vomit and we all had to witness it. I would run out of the house in the middle of the night to escape. Once I ran to a phone box and ranf Childline who offered to arrange for me to be picked up but I was too scared of what would happen, and still felt loyal to my Mum so I went home again. I remember constant arguments, doors slamming, violence etc. There are loads of other examples. I never knew which mum I was going to get. As I recall I was a very shy and introverted child who was very quiet and compliant, so I wasnt a hellishly behaved teenager. I left home and I thought that would be the end of it but I have realised that it's deeply impacted me into adulthood ie excessive people pleasing, real fear of rejection, I apologise for everything etc etc. My father on the other hand I have come to realise is a total bully. He uses his moods to control situations/people and it's awful. On the face of it you wouldn't really think anything was wrong but that's because I have had a lot of counselling which has helped me to an extent but there are still things that affect me. My mum flew off the handle with me about something when we were away and I regressed into this scared child again and stayed upstairs for most of the afternoon. Her mood switches with no warning. I have grown up thinking that I am the problem. Some of this I have had to forgive on the basis that she had a traumatic upbringing which I think explains some of the treatment of me. However having had my own children I do my best to make them feel safe and loved. I am not a perfect parent but I cherish my children and I feel furious that a Mum could behave this way. Over the years my Dad has hit me, berated me, told me I'm useless, and I've had similar treatment from my mum when standing up for myself or trying to make my own decisions. I still feel completely beholden to their reactions. Even at 45 I still go through this thought process of "But what would mum and dad think?" I have suffered anxiety and depression for most of my adult life, I was treated for crippling OCD at 12 years old, this recurrs now and again. I started excessively washing my hands when we were away and I couldn't stop it. I have had my own issues with substances when I was much younger which I have resolved now (all that was a coping mechanism). When I write it down it looks and sounds dreadful. There were some happy times within this but I have almost deluded myself into thinking my childhood was happy and idyllic and I now don't think that it was. We had pets, holidays, food to eat, clothes to wear etc but I spent most of my childhood in a state of serious anxiety and confusion. I am fortunate to have siblings that I get on well with, although I realise we are all traumatised in our own way. Does anyone have any advice as to where I go with this? I know some people must think I am mad to have gone away with them but as I have explained I am still under this illusion that it wasn't that bad and that it's me with the problem(s). Being labelled as 'sensitive' by them has not helped. I feel really angry and sad today. All advice appreciated and if you've made it this far then thank you for reading.

OP posts:
Returnofjude · 23/08/2025 11:02

What is baffling is why you thought this holiday would be any different

Returnofjude · 23/08/2025 11:03

Does anyone have any advice as to where I go with this?

to never see or speak to them again
sadly though is suspect you are all way way too enmeshed in one another’s lives to even consider this

do you have a family of your own? Partner? Children?

indecisivewoman81 · 23/08/2025 11:47

Hi,

It sounds to me that your childhood has given you PTSD and being back in that situation made you revert back to being a child with all the anxiety and fears.

I had a similar upbringing but with a kind but ineffective mum and a narcissistic violent bully of a dad.

I was always people pleasing and trying to be perfect.

A few years ago I decided to go from low contact to no contact because every time I saw him I felt re-triggered and I could see this behaviour being mirrored in my children.

I chose to do the one thing no one else in my family felt able to do. I just said no more. This hurts me. It makes me scared and unhappy and I love myself more than this. So I stopped.

Don't get me wrong I still feel guilt and sadness but on the whole I also fell that I am healing the little girl inside me.

I'm sorry this holiday put you back emotionally. But now you need to consider what you are going to do about it. You have not done anything wrong but that is how you are made to feel and as a child you kept running from this feeling but went back because you needed them. This is no longer the case.

ExtraOnions · 23/08/2025 11:50

Did any incidents happen on holiday ?

rubicustellitall · 23/08/2025 12:00

OP you need to stop punishing yourself for their faliures as parents. You need to love yourself more and realise they are and continually fucking you up. What will it take for you to realise you deserve so much better and you can and will thrive without these people in your life? Trust yourself. Only breaking free will give you the security and happiness and stability you truly deserve. Can you decide today to stop being a victim and break free ?

PinkyFlamingo · 23/08/2025 12:10

Ok. Firstly you need to cut them both out of your life. I know this won't be easy but it is the only hope you ever have of recovering enough of your mental health to enjoy some peace in your life. It does t matter they are your parents. It doesn't matter your Mum had a similar childhood.
You are living with the consequences of being abused and the positive thing you have turned things around with your own children. The only thing going on holiday with them did is give them further opportunities to abuse you.
I would also look in to some therapy to try and reframe this as none of it was your fault. Good luck

RattyMcBatty · 23/08/2025 12:38

If you can't go totally non-contact, then go very low contact. Don't go on holiday with them again - just make excuses. Even Christmas - make excuses or only go for a short visit. Honestly, this is the only way, because they won't change.

mbosnz · 23/08/2025 12:54

What I tell my kids is, the only bad mistake is the one you don't learn from.

It was a mistake to go on a holiday with your abusive family members. It doesn't sound like there is any change or growth on their part, so it was always going to be a regurgitation, on a same or lesser scale, of their previous behaviours towards you.

I am so sorry you went through what you did. I identify with a lot of it.

But you have learned from this experience, yes? If nothing else, if I were you I'd NEVER put myself through such an experience with them, they've shown that they are not people you can entrust with your mental and physical wellbeing, even now.

I know it's hard, but you are allowed to, and right to, have faith in your judgment, your memory, and to act to protect yourself. Regardless of what they think or want.

5128gap · 23/08/2025 12:57

I think the first thing to do is to stop minimising the impact your childhood had on you, calling yourself dramatic and trying to plough on as though nothing happened.
Your childhood experience were traumatic and scarring, and your approach of trying to leave it in the past and have a relationship with your parents now isn't really working, because your wounds are still there and can be reopened by things that happen now, as was the case on holiday.
I think you'd benefit from therapy to work through your childhood. And I think you need to protect yourself by putting some distance between you and your parents. If you want to continue a relationship I think you need to keep interactions shorter and less intense than holidays. Short visits where you control how long you're exposed to them, and other people (your partner?) close at hand to support you.

NOresponsibility · 23/08/2025 12:57

My rules of holidays are.

  1. Never holiday with family.
  2. Never spend holidays with family.
  3. Avoid holidays with family.
  4. Only holiday with people that are like you.
Returnofjude · 23/08/2025 15:15

NOresponsibility · 23/08/2025 12:57

My rules of holidays are.

  1. Never holiday with family.
  2. Never spend holidays with family.
  3. Avoid holidays with family.
  4. Only holiday with people that are like you.

Guessing you don’t have the best relationship with any member of your family @NOresponsibility ?! 😆

Endofyear · 23/08/2025 16:32

Firstly, I'm so sorry for the awful time that you've had. You sound lovely and have overcome a lot of trauma to be able to be a kind and loving mum and person. There is NOTHING wrong with you and you don't deserve the treatment that you've had from your parents.

It sounds like you've had some therapy already - have you explored the idea of going low/no contact with your parents? I think it's very hard to move forward when spending time with them makes you feel helpless and hurt like the young child you were. Maybe getting some distance would help you address some of issues you're still struggling with? You don't owe your parents anything, and you don't have to be around to let them retraumatise you. Wishing you all the best lovely 💐

RedNine · 23/08/2025 16:39

I have almost deluded myself into thinking my childhood was happy and idyllic and I now don't think that it was. We had pets, holidays, food to eat, clothes to wear etc but I spent most of my childhood in a state of serious anxiety and confusion.

OP you had a dreadful childhood. If you are looking for permission to never go away with them again, you have it.

I would go further: you don't need to retraumatise yourself by interacting with them in future, it is okay to say to yourself 'I choose peace'. No need for a dramatic showdown or doorslam, just fade yourself away.

Campingisnexttogodliness · 23/08/2025 16:41

My dm was similar but without the excuse of drink. Df was absent.
Haven't seen either of them for best part of 25 years... No regrets and my mh is so much better...

FTM09q24 · 23/08/2025 16:42

I also had a pretty abusive and confusing childhood and it's very difficult to admit that it wasn't all that great, certainly not as good as my family make it out to be.

What's even harder is admitting that the relatives that were kind and nice to me and who I held up on a pedestal, were guilty too as they knew what was happening and didn't stop it or advocated for me.

My solution has been distance. I moved to the other end of Europe and then eventually to a different continent. I see my family in small doses and use the excuse of small spaces to always get a hotel room when I visit. Now I have DS, I use him as an excuse for naps, day trips etc. I always take DH with me and he doesn't speak my/ their language so again, another excuse for us to do stuff on our own.

JimmyGiraffe · 23/08/2025 16:43

OP - I say this kindly but please use paragraphs when writing a long post!

Goodideaornot · 23/08/2025 16:53

I think staying away from your parents would be wise. Definitely don’t go away with them again. I’m glad you have a decent relationship with siblings

RedNine · 23/08/2025 17:10

JimmyGiraffe · 23/08/2025 16:43

OP - I say this kindly but please use paragraphs when writing a long post!

Ugh. Two things: some devices remove paragraphs upon pressing 'post' (looking at you, samsung phone); someone posting in a bit of distress, a stream of consciousness if you like, can be forgiven for the spilling of the heartfelt feelings in a splurge.

One more thing: You did not offer any advice, help or support. Get away and have a think about asking kindly when you are unkind yourself.

StrongandNorthern · 23/08/2025 17:11

'I never knew which Mum I was going to get'.
I totally, completely understand that. For a child, or indeed adult, it is incredibly damaging.
It left me (what I would describe as) 'hypervigilent ' and permanently damaged.
It was a very long time ago and my parents are no longer alive.
I'm not offering advice - just empathy.
It's a horrible way to grow up.

Ponderingwindow · 23/08/2025 17:18

I realized by sentence 3 of your post that at least one of your parents was going to be an addict.

This is the damage of alcoholism
on children. The impact lasts for the rest of our lives.

thepariscrimefiles · 23/08/2025 17:24

JimmyGiraffe · 23/08/2025 16:43

OP - I say this kindly but please use paragraphs when writing a long post!

How on earth is this kind? You have not provided OP with any help or support for the difficult situation she is in with her abusive parents, but you thought it appropriate to criticise her for her lack of paragraphs, with a hypocritical 'kindly' thrown in for good measure.

Gettingbysomehow · 23/08/2025 17:26

I really cannot understand why anyone would go on holiday with their family. Even if you get on its bloody awful.
Don't do it again.

Stargazingstargazer · 23/08/2025 17:28

JimmyGiraffe · 23/08/2025 16:43

OP - I say this kindly but please use paragraphs when writing a long post!

OP please ignore this post. Absolutely, no one else will be judging you on your punctuation given the heart-wrenching description of your childhood and your recent holiday. Please congratulate yourself on having broken the cycle of abuse and addiction. That is an incredibly difficult thing to achieve given circumstances you grow up in,

Your holiday has given you the opportunity to re-appraise your childhood through adult eyes, which I imagine has blindsided you as further truths have sunk in. These people will never ever be able to give you the love, or validation, or safety that you needed as a child, and crave as an adult. I have dealt with similar themes, and my advice is straightforward:

  1. As much therapy as you can afford, to address all of the issues that have understandably confused and hurt you. Also to focus on healthy boundaries, and stopping the people pleasing (which is exhausting).
  2. To go very low or no contact with your abusive family members

I was about your age when I finally found the courage to be my own person and put healthy boundaries in place. I had young children, and it bought the whole situation into sharp focus and gave me the clarity I needed.

I do agree with a PP that complex PTSD is likely to be in the picture. Keep going, be incredibly proud of what you have achieved. I wish you all the best building up your own strength and happiness. You will never look back, and you will feel so much more at peace.

thepariscrimefiles · 23/08/2025 17:30

OP, both your parents are abusive bullies and your childhood is like something out of one of those 'misery memoirs'. You sound like a lovely person who has tried to think the best of them, but it really isn't possible. They should probably have been arrested for child abuse. It is really hard to acknowledge that your own parents are monsters and that their treatment of you has had a lifelong impact on you.

Please seek out some therapy to help you to completely distance yourself and your children from your parents' lives. They are dangerous people and you need to keep your children away from them. They don't deserve to have any contact with you and your family.

thepariscrimefiles · 23/08/2025 17:35

Returnofjude · 23/08/2025 11:03

Does anyone have any advice as to where I go with this?

to never see or speak to them again
sadly though is suspect you are all way way too enmeshed in one another’s lives to even consider this

do you have a family of your own? Partner? Children?

She does have children. She says so in her OP:

'However having had my own children I do my best to make them feel safe and loved. I am not a perfect parent but I cherish my children and I feel furious that a Mum could behave this way'

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