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Performative partner

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tinypopp · 23/08/2025 10:05

I’ve been with my partner for just over a year. He can be very lovely, and I do think he has good values, but there’s a very performative side to him that I’m struggling with. He’s 40 yet still very attached to a sort of DJ-scene identity, always telling stories and dropping names, and it feels like he hasn’t really outgrown that phase. For me, it doesn’t feel about the music so much as about the image. He's constantly 'on' trying to make jokes and people please. On a recent holiday, he spent four hours thinking of puns to whatsapp people. I feel like if I don't respond completely enthralled, I'm then having to manage his sulks and stony silences, but it's exhausting.

I’m a single parent and I work a lot — both PAYE and freelance — so my capacity is already finely balanced. I also need occasional downtime just to reset. He sees that as me not prioritising him, whereas I see it as basic survival. The more needy and sexually pushy he becomes, the more I withdraw.

He sometimes makes comments that are supposed to be “jokes” but feel like pressure. Last week, he suggested he should come over “just for a blow job” and then saying “can delete if inappropriate.” It's like he's testing the water but and wanting to hedge his bets based on my response.

He’s questioned me about going to bed early, once calling me a liar, and if I say I need space he often sulks or gives me the silent treatment. After a meal recently when I said I was heading home as I was tired, he got stroppy and went cold with me.

There was also a big argument when I mentioned (in context of talking about shit bands) that I’d slept with someone over 20 years ago who said he was from XXXX shit band. He had a huge strop and made us leave the taxi. Yet he constantly talks about his own past and his stories are fair game. It feels like a double standard.

He'll pay for things then remind me later "I'm really kind, I've paid for XYZ" like he's holding it against me. It feels like pressure all the time.

I’ve suggested therapy, because I think he’s actually quite insecure and it could help him, but he won’t consider it. I feel like he doesn’t really value the reality of my life — that I parent alone, work hard, and need downtime sometimes.

I keep asking myself if I’m being unkind and breadcrumbing him, or whether this is the start of controlling behaviour. Has anyone been in a similar situation, and is this just a non-starter?

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SoozyWoozy5 · 23/08/2025 13:17

He sounds like an utter dick!

Sparkletastic · 23/08/2025 13:21

He sounds like an arsehole. Stop wasting your time.

Thepossibility · 23/08/2025 13:27

Tbh he should've been an ex for a while now..

ReadingSoManyThreads · 23/08/2025 13:32

Insufferable. Ick. DUMP.

HundredMilesAnHour · 23/08/2025 13:38

tinypopp · 23/08/2025 10:25

Thanks all. This kind of confirms what I'd felt. I don't want to completely slag him off cos there are so many good essential qualities to him, but the issue is he doesn't seem to want to grow. I think it's down to insecurity rather than maliciousness but it's not where I am right now.

Your opening post is effectively a list of reasons why he should have been binned each time. And the cumulative effect is why I don’t understand why you’ve continued in a relationship with him. Are you worried about being alone? Do you not think you deserve better?

This should have been a non-starter months ago. But better late than never. You’re not being unkind to him. You’re being unkind to YOU!! Him having some “good essential qualities” doesn’t make up for the completely shit qualities he has. You sound like a lovely thoughtful hard-working person. Please raise your bar. If you won’t do it for yourself, do it for your DC. This is not a relationship you want to model to them. Model valuing yourself instead and knowing that you deserve, and indeed demand, better.

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 23/08/2025 13:49

At the end of the day, it doesn't sound like you like him very much any more.

He could be the nicest guy in the world, but if you don't like him, you don't like him. So why waste any more of your life with him? Far too many people seem to think they can't leave someone unless they've done something wrong. That's really not the case.

Snugglemonkey · 23/08/2025 13:54

He is a dick. Silent treatment and huffs do not make for a good partner.

MKDex · 23/08/2025 13:57

Does his name begin with R? If so I know this guy, he pushed me down some stairs

MsMarch · 23/08/2025 14:04

tinypopp · 23/08/2025 10:25

Thanks all. This kind of confirms what I'd felt. I don't want to completely slag him off cos there are so many good essential qualities to him, but the issue is he doesn't seem to want to grow. I think it's down to insecurity rather than maliciousness but it's not where I am right now.

Insecurity is often the basis of men like this who are 100% manipulative and controlling and quite frankly, it's not an excuse. If he IS insecure, then he needs to deal with it.

I also think going to counselling with someone you've been with for a YEAR is MADNESS. Sure, if you could convince him to go for counselling to deal with his insecurities, great.

But I warn you right now, this sort of insecurity while probably real, is also just a lovely complex cover that allows him to feel like the victim and to insist on things being done the way HE wants them to. It is very immature, yes. It can also be a sign of covert narcissism which I only mention because I think the key feature of this type of behaviour is in the brain's inability to ever propery grow up. Children, particularly pre and early teens, display much of this behaviour and our job is to help them grow out of it. the ones who don't, are the ones who land up like this man of yours.

MsMarch · 23/08/2025 14:12

Also, just to put your experience alongside SIL's experience with a man like this.

but there’s a very performative side to him that I’m struggling with. He’s 40 yet still very attached to a sort of DJ-scene identity, always telling stories and dropping names, and it feels like he hasn’t really outgrown that phase.

Played the guitar, casually, and went to a few raves and quite liked doing a little DJ'ing at home - to hear him speak, he was completely in with whatever the hot DJ/music scene was at the time.

feel like if I don't respond completely enthralled, I'm then having to manage his sulks and stony silences, but it's exhausting.

If SIL wasn't 100% engaged in whatever he was doing/thinking/texting, he'd sulk and complain about how she's "clearly not interested in his life".

I also need occasional downtime just to reset. He sees that as me not prioritising him, whereas I see it as basic survival.

She was working and studying and paying 80% of their bills (he'd managed to convince her to let him move in with her very early) and yet he truly and deeply resented if she needed time to study, LOATHED if she went to the gym and had complete meltdowns if she went to see a friend because she wasn't "prioritising him". At one point, her entirel social life consisted of her friends travelling to see her in her lunch break.... the only time she was allowed to see them.

He sometimes makes comments that are supposed to be “jokes” but feel like pressure. Last week, he suggested he should come over “just for a blow job” and then saying “can delete if inappropriate.” It's like he's testing the water but and wanting to hedge his bets based on my response.
He had no sense of humour or even an ability to pretend but he did this in a different way. eg, "jokes" about how she's "lucky" he doesn't insist she irons his shirts or that other women would be so grateful that he'd cooked a meal when she came home from work (he was home, not working, all day. And the meal was food she hated).

He’s questioned me about going to bed early, once calling me a liar, and if I say I need space he often sulks or gives me the silent treatment. After a meal recently when I said I was heading home as I was tired, he got stroppy and went cold with me.
If she didn't greet him enthusiastically enough when coming home, he'd sulk. If she was 30 minutes late home from a drink with a friend becuase of train delays, he'd accuse her of lying. If she didn't want to stay up late to watch a show they'd been watching together, even though she had work the next day, he'd sulk.

There was also a big argument when I mentioned (in context of talking about shit bands) that I’d slept with someone over 20 years ago who said he was from XXXX shit band. He had a huge strop and made us leave the taxi. Yet he constantly talks about his own past and his stories are fair game. It feels like a double standard.

Pretty classic. YOu're supposed to be pure. He hated that SIL had previous boyfriends. HATED it.

He'll pay for things then remind me later "I'm really kind, I've paid for XYZ" like he's holding it against me. It feels like pressure all the time.
He never had money but if he so much as made her a cup of tea......

I’ve suggested therapy, because I think he’s actually quite insecure and it could help him, but he won’t consider it.
No, because personalities like this, just like pre-teens, truly think they are in the right and if anything, they believe YOU should go to therapy because you're clearly a cold, unkind person.

I feel like he doesn’t really value the reality of my life — that I parent alone, work hard, and need downtime sometimes.
No, he doesn't because his entire world view is that he is at the centre and everything you do should be about him.

End it now otherwise you'll find yourself in 10 years where my SIL is - a single parent, with no support, years of abuse means she's lost all sense of herself and what is normal in relationships and, to boot, she's in huge debt because of the endless ways she's spent money to try and compensate for his shittiness.

pinkyredrose · 23/08/2025 14:17

The more needy and sexually pushy he becomes, the more I withdraw.

Holy crap, forget the other (abysmal btw) stuff, he's sexually abusive! Definitely throw this one back!

Knobbsa · 23/08/2025 14:17

Haemagoblin · 23/08/2025 10:08

He sounds like a ghastly prick and I can't imagine why you're wasting your limited leisure time on him. In the bin.

This.
With a nasty abusive streak bubbling up in the background.

Dump him. Do not allow him near you children.
He sounds truly awful.
He would give you and your children a dogs life.

Do the www.freedomprogramme.co.uk

Learn to trust your gut.
He's a bad 'un.

pinkyredrose · 23/08/2025 14:21

junefrog · 23/08/2025 12:23

This is a bit harsh

Not really! She'd have a far better time with a vibrator!

tinypopp · 23/08/2025 14:30

MsMarch · 23/08/2025 14:04

Insecurity is often the basis of men like this who are 100% manipulative and controlling and quite frankly, it's not an excuse. If he IS insecure, then he needs to deal with it.

I also think going to counselling with someone you've been with for a YEAR is MADNESS. Sure, if you could convince him to go for counselling to deal with his insecurities, great.

But I warn you right now, this sort of insecurity while probably real, is also just a lovely complex cover that allows him to feel like the victim and to insist on things being done the way HE wants them to. It is very immature, yes. It can also be a sign of covert narcissism which I only mention because I think the key feature of this type of behaviour is in the brain's inability to ever propery grow up. Children, particularly pre and early teens, display much of this behaviour and our job is to help them grow out of it. the ones who don't, are the ones who land up like this man of yours.

Thanks i appreciate your post and agree around the manipulation.

I meant therapy for him, not couples therapy.

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tinypopp · 23/08/2025 14:31

MsMarch · 23/08/2025 14:12

Also, just to put your experience alongside SIL's experience with a man like this.

but there’s a very performative side to him that I’m struggling with. He’s 40 yet still very attached to a sort of DJ-scene identity, always telling stories and dropping names, and it feels like he hasn’t really outgrown that phase.

Played the guitar, casually, and went to a few raves and quite liked doing a little DJ'ing at home - to hear him speak, he was completely in with whatever the hot DJ/music scene was at the time.

feel like if I don't respond completely enthralled, I'm then having to manage his sulks and stony silences, but it's exhausting.

If SIL wasn't 100% engaged in whatever he was doing/thinking/texting, he'd sulk and complain about how she's "clearly not interested in his life".

I also need occasional downtime just to reset. He sees that as me not prioritising him, whereas I see it as basic survival.

She was working and studying and paying 80% of their bills (he'd managed to convince her to let him move in with her very early) and yet he truly and deeply resented if she needed time to study, LOATHED if she went to the gym and had complete meltdowns if she went to see a friend because she wasn't "prioritising him". At one point, her entirel social life consisted of her friends travelling to see her in her lunch break.... the only time she was allowed to see them.

He sometimes makes comments that are supposed to be “jokes” but feel like pressure. Last week, he suggested he should come over “just for a blow job” and then saying “can delete if inappropriate.” It's like he's testing the water but and wanting to hedge his bets based on my response.
He had no sense of humour or even an ability to pretend but he did this in a different way. eg, "jokes" about how she's "lucky" he doesn't insist she irons his shirts or that other women would be so grateful that he'd cooked a meal when she came home from work (he was home, not working, all day. And the meal was food she hated).

He’s questioned me about going to bed early, once calling me a liar, and if I say I need space he often sulks or gives me the silent treatment. After a meal recently when I said I was heading home as I was tired, he got stroppy and went cold with me.
If she didn't greet him enthusiastically enough when coming home, he'd sulk. If she was 30 minutes late home from a drink with a friend becuase of train delays, he'd accuse her of lying. If she didn't want to stay up late to watch a show they'd been watching together, even though she had work the next day, he'd sulk.

There was also a big argument when I mentioned (in context of talking about shit bands) that I’d slept with someone over 20 years ago who said he was from XXXX shit band. He had a huge strop and made us leave the taxi. Yet he constantly talks about his own past and his stories are fair game. It feels like a double standard.

Pretty classic. YOu're supposed to be pure. He hated that SIL had previous boyfriends. HATED it.

He'll pay for things then remind me later "I'm really kind, I've paid for XYZ" like he's holding it against me. It feels like pressure all the time.
He never had money but if he so much as made her a cup of tea......

I’ve suggested therapy, because I think he’s actually quite insecure and it could help him, but he won’t consider it.
No, because personalities like this, just like pre-teens, truly think they are in the right and if anything, they believe YOU should go to therapy because you're clearly a cold, unkind person.

I feel like he doesn’t really value the reality of my life — that I parent alone, work hard, and need downtime sometimes.
No, he doesn't because his entire world view is that he is at the centre and everything you do should be about him.

End it now otherwise you'll find yourself in 10 years where my SIL is - a single parent, with no support, years of abuse means she's lost all sense of herself and what is normal in relationships and, to boot, she's in huge debt because of the endless ways she's spent money to try and compensate for his shittiness.

Thank you for this one. It's really stark. It's much easier to see shitty behaviour when it's framed within someone else's life. I

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OSTMusTisNT · 23/08/2025 14:33

But apart from that, he's a great bloke, sounds like a keeper 🙄

(LTB....)

stayathomer · 23/08/2025 14:36

Op honestly forget therapy or suggestions of therapy. You are together one year. That’s nothing, you shouldn’t have so many issues to deal with. I don’t think it’s worth it

chatgptsbestmate · 23/08/2025 14:41

Christ on a bike. Dump this pathetic individual

Charlize43 · 23/08/2025 14:58

It's very clear that your relationship is over and from the sounds of it you both were not compatible to between with. Maybe he met you while your self esteem was in the dustbin.

Sit down and finish it. You have a whole new happy life, without performatives, ahead of you.

spoonbillstretford · 23/08/2025 14:59

He sounds a fake insecure manchild.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 23/08/2025 15:15

He's not a boyfriend, he's a project. You even tried to get him into therapy. He sounds like a teenager and I'd dump him.

totally50 · 23/08/2025 15:21

eeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwww

I feel queasy hearing about that guy.

Dump. Him.

fatphalange · 23/08/2025 15:21

Ewwww. I’m sorry but I couldn’t be around that. It must be really embarrassing for you as well! Just no 😂 he’ll be fine. He’s a legend, after all (in his own mind anyway).

tinypopp · 23/08/2025 15:32

CalzoneOnLegs · 23/08/2025 12:31

@tinypopp ‘very attached to a sort of DJ-scene identity,’ what do you mean by this OP how does it play out …

Edited

He just can't stop talking about his uni days as a DJ and smoking weed and being involved in that kind of drug / music scene. Which is fine as a random anecdote now and again in the context of a related conversation. We've all had wild uni days, but I feel like the constant talking about it is used as a crutch for an identity he's clung on to to make himself feel cool and edgy cos it's probably worked in the past. The problem is he's now 40 with a professional job and doesn't seem to want to move past that image. I'd find chats about his actual (responsible) job more interesting and revealing but he just bangs on about his drug use and being a DJ and playing with names I haven't heard of and I now find it hard to feign interest but then he accuses me of not being interested in his life.

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Frankenpug23 · 23/08/2025 15:35

Run and when you have stopped running, run some more - he sounds like a nasty, controlling twat!! You really don’t need someone like this in your life.

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