Reeves plan to tax houses over 500k PART TWO

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I am not the OP from the OP!

Definitely
I reckon Wes is just biding his time

Any additional source that uses additional electricity when taken across the U.K. housing stock is unreasonable

Residential properties should not need mechanical ventilation. They should’ve designed around that need

For someone promoting more green initiatives I’m amazed
This is not green living this is a waste of resources and should never be sold as a way forward for all housing stock.

Definitely but I wonder if the junior doctor's strike has damaged that plan. He'll be desperately trying to hide the data on the number of cancelled appointments or alternatively trying to hide the amount of money he ploughed into private services to provide cover during that period.

Well he's already fudged the figures on waiting lists hasn't he?

Or the fact he's part funded by private healthcare owners 🙄

You don't need to be amazed because the electricity consumption for my 5-bed house is the equivalent of the average one bed flat. Perhaps you don't understand how modern MVHR technologies work to reduce energy consumption?

Yes - I wonder how many people have actually read his NHS 10-year plan. It's truly frightening.

I wouldn't worry, they will be lucky to survive next 4 years, yet alone 10!

It’s a lot, but these buildings usually have a nice friendly concierge for parcels etc, and you sometimes get a daily call, plus when you are really housebound they end up being in touch with the gp or family over concerns. It’s like paying for a loose support network for isolated people.

I’m an Architect I’m well aware.
It doesn’t change the facts that it’s a waste of electricity if sold as a solution to over insulating a property which is then made uncomfortable to live in.

It might bring in more taxes on extra materials and provide more builders more profit and work but it raises the countries electricity usage and is not good for the environment.

With good design there is no need.

Clearly we have a different take on a healthy living environment for people and buildings.

So are you arguing that passivhaus is not a good design?

I am in my 60s with a three bedroom house in a London suburb. We are thinking of downsizing but I was told by an estate agent that it will cost me £65k to move - that's stamp duty on the new property, estate agent fees, removal fees legal fees. If I now have to pay a tax on top, that's going to be the end of that - we will stay put.

In no particular order:

1. Reduce benefits significantly more. Start with cancelling PIP for eg. ADHD. £20 BILLION pounds per year just on PIP. 30-40% uk are on benefits.
2. Increase income tax
3. Stop illegal immigration outright. Australia managed it and so can the uk if there was a will. IT CAN BE DONE.
4. Agree that Violence Against Women and Girls (VAWG) is a scandal that is being ignored, and commit to addressing it.

Labour do all of the above and I promise I’ll vote for you next time .

I could buy a package of that for her though and she gets to stay in her own home. AT the moment the both of them refuse to have a cleaner in and they've been let down by a gardener but Im assuming, perhaps wrongly that my dad would pass first and then me and my sibling would have to get a package in to support her, we are both 2 hours drive away in opposite directions. So she'll need some persuasion but for about 4k a year we could fund that.

This is about how all existing U.K. housing stock can be improved.
Not all can be ‘improved’ to that level and for many older houses it would be impossible

Building new makes it possible but that isn’t what this conversation is about.
On a personal level I would never live in a mechanically vented property but that’s just personal

I’d like to know how it will actually work, will it be a tax we have to pay forever? When you own your home out right you still have to pay it ? On top of council tax? Sounds a lot like the American system! They never really own a home because of property tax

ps. Talking about introducing a ridiculous housing tax that will only encourage people to stay where they are / stop paying taxes by whatever legal means possible , is laughable.

Ah, I see.

What would you downsize to given youre in a 3 bed already? What would the difference in cost be, if you ignore the cost of moving for a minute?

Because Im looking at a 2 bed bungalow, its the only one I have found near my mum, its only 80k less than they could get for their house!!!

What would be the point!

Some people only want to leave their house in a casket, some people are happy to get rid of the cleaning and bin days and repairs etc.
I do think it’s a lot of money, but in my experience, residents do come to know the concierge lady/man quite well and the other flats around them and it’s a good eye kept on family members and someone knows their routines. Im hoping my parents are favourable to the idea.
But it’s a bit of a luxury if you are really hard pressed.

With respect, this is all loose and wooly and great soundbites (if you like that sort of sound bite)

PIP cant just be 'stopped' for a particular disorder because PIP is for the cost of being disabled. You dont even need a diagnosis to claim PIP, its dependent on how your condition affects you. You cant just say someone with ADHD cant get it any more than you can say someone with arthritis shouldnt get it

When you say stop 'illegal' immigration (we'll park the definition of that for the moment). What do you practically do when someone rocks up on the shores? Assuming you mean, that you take this person, put them in a detention centre while you gather up more people and deport them yes? Where to? You have to have the other country's agreement to do this, who would that be? France? Why? If you dont know their country of origin, where next?

Its very easy to throw these things around but you have to show how it would be managed and assessed and executed.

Exactly. And that is the governments job. We just pay for it to be done.

Well this needs more thought to be honest. Just doing some rough calculations, assuming a cost of £30ph, if I had someone visit her to do bits and bobs, one hour per day, for 5 days a week, that is actaully 7k a year

So now those service charges dont look quite so bad.

Something to mull over.

The problem is that employers don’t want to come here - so how do you make the workforce attractive? By subsidising it.

plus people with eg adhd - the vast majority need support (and medication unfortunately isn’t a cure) and the government doesn’t want to ask employers to do that

add in the high value jobs are going to non uk/eu nationals (over the last 10 years the grads on my works scheme have gone from 90% uk uni graduates to 40%) we have a huge employment crisis

putting up the ni didn’t help that

they need to row back on their promise and increase IT, CT and VAT by a small amount

It can be very hard to sell the flat when you inherit and you will still be on the book for the service charge