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Would you rather be mortgage free…

54 replies

Cantstopeatingpringles · 14/08/2025 23:12

With a modest house

Or

Rent and live in a house in the U.K. and have a holiday house abroad that you rent out and that brings in extra money and you can go and stay at for holidays?

OP posts:
Cantstopeatingpringles · 15/08/2025 08:44

We currently live abroad. We can sell this house and have enough to buy a 2 bedroom in the uk (there’s 3 of us) and have no mortgage
Or we can keep this here, rent it out (will get a lot as in prime beach location etc) and rent in the uk (we want to move back)
Rental of house abroad will pay for the mortgage on the house easily and possibly our rent in uk too. Plus we can return to a place we love for holidays

OP posts:
Cutleryclaire · 15/08/2025 08:46

Mortgage free. I’d like to be able to go on more varied holidays than keep going back to the same place.

TheGrimSmile · 15/08/2025 08:48

I suppose then it depends how much you really love your current home and if you plan to return there soon, to retire for example. If you have no intention of ever returning permanently abroad then I would sell it and buy in the UK.

Imperativvv · 15/08/2025 08:52

Mortgage free. I'd use my mortgage money to go on holidays wherever I liked and not worry about having to maintain a property in a different country.

But if you love the home abroad that's a complicating factor.

Clychaugog · 15/08/2025 08:53

Second homes and airbnbs rip the hearts out of communities.

Hard no on a second home from me.

Biskieboo · 15/08/2025 09:02

I have toyed with the idea of getting a bolthole in the south of France but it's plainly going to be miles more bother than it's worth. My sister has a holiday let in the UK and that's a complete arseache and not the money spinner she hoped; trying to deal with one in a different country? Forget it. I might consider it once I'm retired and can spend months at a time there (and I wouldn't let it out). So a choice between all that hassle + feeling obliged to go on holiday to the same place all the time + not even paying down a mortgage but renting instead OR being mortgage free? Absolute no-brainer - mortgage free every time.

Bellyblueboy · 15/08/2025 09:09

Cantstopeatingpringles · 15/08/2025 08:44

We currently live abroad. We can sell this house and have enough to buy a 2 bedroom in the uk (there’s 3 of us) and have no mortgage
Or we can keep this here, rent it out (will get a lot as in prime beach location etc) and rent in the uk (we want to move back)
Rental of house abroad will pay for the mortgage on the house easily and possibly our rent in uk too. Plus we can return to a place we love for holidays

I’m not sure why other people would do is relevant to your decision!

your circumstances will be unique - only you know the beaurcracy in your area iro a holiday home and rentals. Only you know what the property markets are like. Only you know your long term plans and risk appetite.

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 15/08/2025 09:11

TheGreatWesternShrew · 15/08/2025 01:55

Mortgage free. DH and I became MF in our 20s (through a series of unfortunate events) and it’s given us so much freedom with how to live our lives. So long as we can pull in £600 a month between us that’s bills and food paid… if we were happy to we could work 2 days a week each and that’s it. Maybe less.

Not the point of the thread, but you only spend £600 a month on bills and food?! Our council tax is over £200 on its own.

Fearfulsaints · 15/08/2025 09:19

I think i would hold on to house abroad a rent for at least a year or two.. Just to check i really did want to return to the uk and that I had picked the right area and that the renting out my existing home did work as expected.

I'd then reassess how much hassle it was and then buy in the uk at that point if it turned out I wasnt going on holiday to the house, or the rent was as easy as anticipated.

I would personally prefer to be mortgage free as id not want to have all my holidays in one location, but I dont see the decision all needs to be tied up in one go.

R0setheHat · 15/08/2025 09:22

We’ve been mortgage free for 6 years. Payed it off in our early forties. The house is modest, detached but small at around 1100 sq feet, 3 beds. We bought a fixer upper in a very nice rural location and renovated over time. It’s exactly how we want it and suits us very nicely.

i cannot tell you how amazing the feeling is of not having the mortgage ball and chain anymore. We sleep very well at night. We missed all the recent interest rate increases and can save getting a great interest rate on our savings. We have no loans and credit cards are always paid off in full each month. We have financial resilience should a disaster happen and could easily cut back if we needed to without reducing our standard of living to uncomfortable levels. Private dentist costs aren’t an issue and although we don’t have any health issues, should we need to we could afford a private GP and medical treatment costs (we also have private medical insurance)

We do have pretty extravagant holidays every year flying business class long and short haul and stay in amazing hotels where the rich and famous go. I often wonder if the hotel staff and other guests at these hotels saw our little house would they be surprised. I have a few expensive things - bags, coats, jewellery etc. Most things I want I can buy but I don’t splurge very often. Okay, so I have preordered the Liberty Beauty advent calendar but it’s really an investment.

Conversely, we buy and sell clothing and other stuff on Vinted and try to cook from scratch as much as possible. Our home was renovated using about 70% secondhand furniture bought off FB MP and EBay.

We’re happy. I wouldn’t rent again - we rented for 4 years before we bought out home - yes our rental houses were bigger and more impressive but not worth it especially now in the U.K. where rental costs are sky high and landlords are selling off.

Your 2nd option of renting and owning a home abroad to rent out is too risky for me, so many costs and so much could go wrong.

TheRealMagic · 15/08/2025 09:25

I'm a bit confused as to how you're both going to rent out the house abroad and also have holidays in it. Are you thinking it would be holiday rentals you did? If so, that's a LOT more hassle than being landlord to a tenant, and means you'll lose a lot more of the income in management and cleaning fees. Have you taken that into account? And are you blocking out prime holiday time for your own personal use (eating further into the money you'll make) or are you ok with needing to take your own holidays in the off-season?

While I generally think that scenario A is much more sensible and has much more longevity, I guess one advantage of scenario B is that you could always do it for a while and then, if you wanted to, sell the house abroad and revert to scenario A - it would be harder to go the other way round.

SaladAndChipsForTea · 15/08/2025 09:25

I'd get close to mortgage free and save the excess for a few years, before remortgaging my house to buy the abroad property.

I'd have to be 100% sure it was worth the faff and cost of buying abroad and the risks that go with it vs just paying to go on holiday and not having the hassle.

BIossomtoes · 15/08/2025 09:28

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 15/08/2025 09:11

Not the point of the thread, but you only spend £600 a month on bills and food?! Our council tax is over £200 on its own.

You’d be astonished at how little some people can live on if they don’t have rent or mortgage payments. £600 a month is only £200 less than someone on the basic state pension has to live on.

Iocainepowder · 15/08/2025 09:28

I would still rather own my house house even without being mortgage free rather than the second option.

I didn’t have many great experiences in the private rental market and would have never had children if i had to continue to rent. Owning my own property gives me more security.

MermaidMummy06 · 15/08/2025 09:36

We've been mortgage free for two years, late 40's. It's a massive difference. We don't have a huge income but can afford everything we need, plus travel & saving for newer cars. It's a game changer.

I'd never own a holiday home, let alone abroad. People underestimate the costs & taxes associated with earning. My SIL/BIL think they're going to make £500 a week renting their house while they travel. The reality is less than half that once management, maintenance, accounting & taxes are taken into account.

pilates · 15/08/2025 09:40

Mortgage free

TheNoonBell · 15/08/2025 10:04

Having owned a place abroad to provde a rental income they are a pain in the arse if you don't have someone to help in the country. If anything goes wrong you will be the one who has to arrange someone to come over and sort things out.

When the local tradesmen work out you are foreign the prices always go up.

SaladAndChipsForTea · 15/08/2025 10:08

Cantstopeatingpringles · 15/08/2025 08:44

We currently live abroad. We can sell this house and have enough to buy a 2 bedroom in the uk (there’s 3 of us) and have no mortgage
Or we can keep this here, rent it out (will get a lot as in prime beach location etc) and rent in the uk (we want to move back)
Rental of house abroad will pay for the mortgage on the house easily and possibly our rent in uk too. Plus we can return to a place we love for holidays

To me, that is an entirely different scenario to the OP. From the OP, I thought you lived in the UK and were looking to carry on living in the UK but buying a rental property abroad to rent out.

In your circumstances, I'd look to rent your existing, non-uk property for a while, while remaining in that country, before moving to the UK to make sure it is making the money you expect. But given economic uncertainty, I would be wary of assuming guaranteed income.

However, I think it makes sense to rent in the UK while you house hunt if you decide to buy. You may, however, find that a landlord isn't keen on someone who can't show more guaranteed income, like a job, vs relying on their own rental.

Els1e · 15/08/2025 10:14

Mortgage free. How ever much I liked a place, I wouldn't want to do the same holiday every year. Much rather have the money to visit different places and have different experiences.

TorroFerney · 15/08/2025 10:18

Bimblebombles · 14/08/2025 23:28

The first one. Your own roof over you that no one can take away from you. That piece of mind is priceless.

I also wouldn’t want to feel limited in where I went on holiday, I like going to different places

Snap. You use the money you don’t spend on rent on your abroad holidays. You need to give more detail though for me, how much rent how are you paying for house abroad, where abroad etc.

I can’t see the attraction of cleaning up / doing housework in a different country.

sorry posted before I read your further detail. That’s slightly different as you have a tie to the abroad place.

Cantstopeatingpringles · 15/08/2025 10:54

Clychaugog · 15/08/2025 08:53

Second homes and airbnbs rip the hearts out of communities.

Hard no on a second home from me.

It’s our home we’ve been in for ten years

OP posts:
TheRealMagic · 15/08/2025 11:03

BIossomtoes · 15/08/2025 09:28

You’d be astonished at how little some people can live on if they don’t have rent or mortgage payments. £600 a month is only £200 less than someone on the basic state pension has to live on.

Edited

But someone on basic state pension doesn't have to pay full council tax, or quite a lot of other things that a working age person has to.

BIossomtoes · 15/08/2025 11:05

TheRealMagic · 15/08/2025 11:03

But someone on basic state pension doesn't have to pay full council tax, or quite a lot of other things that a working age person has to.

Yes they do. Someone on a basic state pension gets nothing except a 25% council tax discount if they live alone. What other things do they not have to pay apart from bus fares and prescription charges?

NormasArse · 15/08/2025 11:07

If I was mortgage free, I could afford holidays in lots of different places…

user593 · 15/08/2025 11:07

We bought a modest house in the UK (relative to income) and are looking into buying a holiday home abroad.

In your circumstances I’d go for the first option though as I wouldn’t want to rent in the UK if at all avoidable.